LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0

[LAisthePlace]

Originally Posted by Easy

Just to be clear it’s not planned to be bidirectional. It’s planned to travel clockwise.

Since you live downtown, you have a ton of bus options better than this streetcar. You don’t really need to investigate bus schedules if you have a smart phone. Enter your destination into google maps and select the transit option. It’s that simple. Buses can be intimidating at first but you’ll be surprised at how quickly it all starts making sense.

Totally. I use the bus system when I lived in other parts of LA, just still getting my bearings here and most of the time its just so easy to walk.

And the reason I mentioned *if it were to be bidirectional* is that the latest update seemed to imply they were looking to improve route/stops/etc compared to the map shared.

[Niftybox]

Hope you are all well. I apologize for my directed attack on forum posters, it was not to disparage anyone but to convince you that this city is built differently for its size and why it might have been developed wrong from the start. For the people disappointed that we have so many conversations on here about 'other' subjects, it makes sense given the lack of focus on density and the continued embrace of sprawling developments, it's the hand we've been dealt. We can't really focus in on vertical development, LA is just not that kind of city for its size. I realize that and will stop disparaging the city for that. I will stick to purely high-rise+ development and conversations (when it comes around).

[nmkef]

I'll be happy to be more on topic to actual high rise developments when they happen! There's just not much news recently I took a few photos of the hotel at Pico & Fig but they look about the same as the last few posted. Maybe I'll try and grab some of Brookfield or the 8th & Fig project later this week.

[black_crow]

Originally Posted by nmkef

I'll be happy to be more on topic to actual high rise developments when they happen! There's just not much news recently I took a few photos of the hotel at Pico & Fig but they look about the same as the last few posted. Maybe I'll try and grab some of Brookfield or the 8th & Fig project later this week.

8th & Fig would be nice.. There was no update since August and I am in Europe at the moment.

I think that new pictures are always welcome here.

[citywatch]

Originally Posted by Niftybox

Hope you are all well. I apologize for my directed attack on forum posters, it was not to disparage anyone but to convince you that this city is built differently for its size and why it might have been developed wrong from the start.

the only forummers who I have a problem with are the ones who complain about OT posts by, in turn, posting an OT complaint about posts that are OT...lol....the irony is rich.

Some of them also don't help add too much to the conversation beyond posting one liners line similar to...I don't like that....it needs to be taller.....I don't like the paint color....the devlpr should have included stores on the first floor....the bldg should have less parking....the design is too this, it's too that.

I don't recall posts of yours being like that, however....if anything, I think it was something you wrote that got me to look more closely at what's going on in NYC & London. Understanding dtla isn't complete enough without knowing the ins & outs of other cities. I was so blown away by the street life & night life of London, which isn't famous for highrises...& even more so since Covid still is around....that it reminded me why dtla doesn't have to worry about a lack of enough skyscrapers...it needs to worry about other things.

DT just needs to fill in the gaps, inc the parking lots & smaller obsolete bldgs, & keep the sidewalks as clean as possible....it needs to be made as attractive as possible.

LA also today enacted a vaccine mandate for stores & restaurants, so the ppl, businesses & devlprs of dtla....along with someone needing to finish the oceanwide proj....really now have their work cut out for them. A semi outsider like this youtuber may be part of that mix too.

He looks like he could be a character from the simpsons...lol...but, hey, he on occasion may even post to this forum on dtla.

Hello, my name is Scott Burns. One of the ways that I stay focused is to study penthouses in LA, Miami and New York City (Manhattan). Researching the penthouse lifestyle affords me the opportunity to visualize a future for myself....I want to make sure we can work together before we start talking about buying and selling a penthouse.

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[nmkef]

New development proposed on 12th & Main. Kind of in the middle of nowhere, but there are a couple nearby apartment buildings plus someday the rest of the south park towers along 11th that will create a solid block of residential space.

Looks like a pretty vanilla residential tower, but I really don't mind those that much. I'm just glad to see something there that isn't a rundown auto shop or something

30 story, 340ft, 363 units, and *sigh* 373 parking spots. Hopefully we will see the big influx of car-free developments next year with DTLA2040.





https://urbanize.city/la/post/apartment-tower-12th-main-could-open-2026

[LAsam]

^Agree that the location is on the edge of current development, but it's a block away from the renovated Herald Examiner/ASU facility, Hoxton Hotel, and Proper Hotel to the northwest. Also has the new Axis apartments just to the south. This area could easily no longer be the edge in another 5 to 10 years.

[LAisthePlace]

Originally Posted by LAsam

^Agree that the location is on the edge of current development, but it's a block away from the renovated Herald Examiner/ASU facility, Hoxton Hotel, and Proper Hotel to the northwest. Also has the new Axis apartments just to the south. This area could easily no longer be the edge in another 5 to 10 years.

It could also help get closer and closer to tying together that hub (especially now that Herald Examiner now has ASU officially moved in and Proper is opening next week) with the ambitious City Market project. Rossoblu, Dama, Cogniscoti are all great, but right now they are on a bit of an island.

https://urbanize.city/la/post/city-council-approves-fashion-districts-city-market-development

[Just-In-Cali]

Just something ...
https://youtu.be/FleGZa2u_5w

[Easy]

Originally Posted by Just-In-Cali

Just something ...
https://youtu.be/FleGZa2u_5w

For those that don't like to click blind links, this is a supposed lightning strike of the Wilshire Grand. I say "supposed" because I think that this is an optical illusion and the strike was actually quite a distance south.

[Just-In-Cali]

Originally Posted by Easy

For those that don't like to click blind links, this is a supposed lightning strike of the Wilshire Grand. I say "supposed" because I think that this is an optical illusion and the strike was actually quite a distance south.

Really? Was it?...
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https://youtu.be/1gynh8yI4go

[nmkef]

Lol I was on a bike back from the Arts District when the storm started to pick up, yea it definitely hit downtown.

Unrelated but I did get a shot of the Brookfield and 8th & Fig developments from a lousy angle on Flower street while I got some tacos You can at least see that they're making good vertical progress. I might go on a run tomorrow morning and get some more interesting shots.

[citywatch]

Projs like the two apt towers rising near Fig & 8th or proposed bldgs like the one at 12th & Main St represent a dtla that's better than it has ever been since LA was founded in the 1700s. But this is way worse than it was even 10, 30, 60 yrs ago...

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that youtuber shows a street in dt that was cleaned just a wk ago but is now as full of homeless encampments as it was before....He mentions how bad it can smell in this part of dtla & his vid shows that graffiti runs rampant. I don't know how much of the zombie apocalypse nature of parts of dt affects its reputation. It certainly doesn't help it.

this is a health issue for dt too.....disease has been identified due to the chaotic, wild, wild west nature of that part of the hood, some of it even affecting city hall about 2 yrs ago. Makes you also wonder about Covid....while stores, bars, theaters & hotels a few blocks west now require customers to have vaccine passports, the east side of dt is held to a totally different standard. In spite of that, has illness from corona been worse on skid row since 2020?

someone told me a few days ago that Hollywood has also become very bad ...but pockets of skid row can be found throughout all of LA, which, in turn, can be found in cities up & down the west coast...less so on the east coast.

But want to end on an upbeat note...


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[HeySparky]

With Urbanize LA being mostly dead these days, I was wondering whatever happened to this proposal to redevelop the Burger King on Sunset and Grand Ave (https://la.curbed.com/2016/2/19/11079828/downtown-burger-king-tower-back-on)

After a bit of searching, I came across a major new rendering on TCA's website for a design at 511 N Grand Avenue, which appears to be the Burger King site. Has anyone heard anything about this project going through approvals? It appears to be a major project for a very visible site.

Renderings: http://tca-arch.com/work/the-grand/

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

Well, that would be a MASSIVE upgrade for the lot to say the least. Something has been proposed for that lot for over a decade though, so who knows if this will ever happen.

[NIMBY Slayer]

This is a complete waste of space. I get it's cheaper than building underground parking but this design is just so inefficient when it comes to land use. Ignoring any underground parking, they could easily build 2 towers on a single podium here, or a wider tower on a podium with setbacks for amenity spaces. They can even keep the same height. They'd have more units, same amount of parking (if not more) and space for the amenities (i.e. pool, etc.). I was in Manhattan yesterday and you'd never see this type of land waste.

Originally Posted by nmkef

New development proposed on 12th & Main. Kind of in the middle of nowhere, but there are a couple nearby apartment buildings plus someday the rest of the south park towers along 11th that will create a solid block of residential space.

Looks like a pretty vanilla residential tower, but I really don't mind those that much. I'm just glad to see something there that isn't a rundown auto shop or something

30 story, 340ft, 363 units, and *sigh* 373 parking spots. Hopefully we will see the big influx of car-free developments next year with DTLA2040.





https://urbanize.city/la/post/apartment-tower-12th-main-could-open-2026

[iboardsnow13]

Originally Posted by LAsam

^Agree that the location is on the edge of current development, but it's a block away from the renovated Herald Examiner/ASU facility, Hoxton Hotel, and Proper Hotel to the northwest. Also has the new Axis apartments just to the south. This area could easily no longer be the edge in another 5 to 10 years.

Excited to see projects like this pushing the edge. Agree, I can't wait until this area has lots of larger projects like this.

[iboardsnow13]

Originally Posted by NIMBY Slayer

This is a complete waste of space. I get it's cheaper than building underground parking but this design is just so inefficient when it comes to land use. Ignoring any underground parking, they could easily build 2 towers on a single podium here, or a wider tower on a podium with setbacks for amenity spaces. They can even keep the same height. They'd have more units, same amount of parking (if not more) and space for the amenities (i.e. pool, etc.). I was in Manhattan yesterday and you'd never see this type of land waste.

I don't know about "complete waste of space," given what is currently there and what is proposed. But I definitely agree that I am getting tired of seeing towers with stubby side buildings that are 4 or 5 stories tall with parking and a pool on top.

[ChelseaFC]

Proper Hotel opens in Downtown Los Angeles in historic 1920 Case building

https://www.properhotel.com/downtown-la/

[LAsam]

^Looks cozy! Like it could be someone's apartment you're staying in.