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Old Posted Dec 9, 2010, 6:02 AM
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^ What do you mean still in the rendering? It's not like they're going to just get rid of them. I think they look cool. They're a great way to give a nod to our history (Gathercole) and have become a 'gateway' to downtown. And besides, they're just like public art on any other street corner. I bet the designers/architects didn't think twice about them.
Also, they weren't added a while ago. The second one was finished this year.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2010, 4:06 PM
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I just wish they hadn't installed the arches backwards. The more detailed brick sides face the river and the plain, smooth sides face 19th Street. Wouldn't it have made more sense to have it the other way around, as a way of marking the entrance?

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^ What do you mean still in the rendering? It's not like they're going to just get rid of them. I think they look cool. They're a great way to give a nod to our history (Gathercole) and have become a 'gateway' to downtown. And besides, they're just like public art on any other street corner. I bet the designers/architects didn't think twice about them.
Also, they weren't added a while ago. The second one was finished this year.
     
     
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I just wish they hadn't installed the arches backwards. The more detailed brick sides face the river and the plain, smooth sides face 19th Street. Wouldn't it have made more sense to have it the other way around, as a way of marking the entrance?
I hope they installed them in a method that will make them easy to remove and then re-install. They will be a huge PITA for the contractors working on the Tonko bldg and the River Landing Village project. Both sites are tight and the builders will need every square inch of laydown area that they can get.
     
     
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I hope they installed them in a method that will make them easy to remove and then re-install. They will be a huge PITA for the contractors working on the Tonko bldg and the River Landing Village project. Both sites are tight and the builders will need every square inch of laydown area that they can get.
Ha, yeah.

This quote is from theriverlanding.com

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One archway is complete; however, the second archway will not be installed until Lake Placid is finished their development.
So much for that.

Regarding the way the arches face, I remember hearing they were placed facing "backwards", because they were supposed to be an entry way to downtown from River Landing.
I think they should face the other way also. Oh well.
     
     
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Looking at stuff that has gone through city council, it looks like Affinity will be moving to 7th Ave. I understand it from a parking stand point, but from a business stand point, doesnt this seem to be the worst decision they could make?

If anything this has to hurt the company from an exposure standpoint.
     
     
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Ha, yeah.

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So much for that.

Regarding the way the arches face, I remember hearing they were placed facing "backwards", because they were supposed to be an entry way to downtown from River Landing.
I think they should face the other way also. Oh well.
Make that three of us.

...does anyone have photos of the Gathercole?
     
     
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^ There's some in this file.
     
     
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Thank you!


I have been thinking about that school a lot lately. I don't know if I ever remember seeing it before...
     
     
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Make that three of us.

...does anyone have photos of the Gathercole?
Add another to the list . It just seems so backwards when you walk to that area for events like the fireworks festival and the "entrance" is actually when you're leaving.
     
     
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Add another to the list . It just seems so backwards when you walk to that area for events like the fireworks festival and the "entrance" is actually when you're leaving.
The city intends riverlanding to be an entity unto itself, separate from downtown. The idea is for riverlanding to be a gateway to downtown, not downtown the gateway to riverlanding.
     
     
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I would like to see the university spear head a development here. They understand traditional style more then any other organization in the city so they would be a good candidate in reviving and expanding the warehouse district. It would be really cool to see mid rise developments (5-8) stories line the roads in the traditional warehouse style. The bottoms would be loaded with little shops, cafes and clubs. Unique public gathering points could be created to really promote a loop of pedestrianism around the area. Like the blog entry I submitted, I think it would be interesting to toss around the idea of a massive park, but just not grass, something representing the birch groves south of the city mixed with major urban agriculture would be cool. Then perhaps this greening could funnel down Idylwyld to connect the space to the river. Vintage lighting, unique tree grates and interesting power/mail boxes could also be implemented to further reinforce the heritage feel of this area. I think it should primarily be residential and retail with smaller companies in it, as well as a satellite campus for the U of S.
not a bad idea
     
     
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^ There's some in this file.
Thanks. I couldn't find anything online.

EDIT: is what I meant to say.

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The city intends riverlanding to be an entity unto itself, separate from downtown. The idea is for riverlanding to be a gateway to downtown, not downtown the gateway to riverlanding.
...but people don't arrive in the city by boat.

This town has it all wrong
     
     
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I don't believe the arches achieve that purpose as a gateway to the downtown or even as an art installation. I understand what they were trying to do or achieve but i don't think that happened.
In my mind they are trying to create a historical element, but it seems out of place. they seem tacky. The only gateway arches i can think of at the moment that have purpose or historical value in the city are the University Memorial gateways near the entrance to RUH.
     
     
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I don't believe the arches achieve that purpose as a gateway to the downtown or even as an art installation. I understand what they were trying to do or achieve but i don't think that happened.
In my mind they are trying to create a historical element, but it seems out of place. they seem tacky. The only gateway arches i can think of at the moment that have purpose or historical value in the city are the University Memorial gateways near the entrance to RUH.
Agreed, I understand their context but in relation to the surrounding architecture they look terrible. I also think they are facing the wrong direction and it should be a gateway to Riverlanding, this serene place which is an escape from the urbanity of downtown. Maybe if they did some cool landscaping treatment it would integrate them into the site better.
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There seems to be a rare consensus on the board regarding these arches. I, too, think that they are facing the wrong way. But beyond that, I also agree that they are completely out of place. They actually look better now as lonely sentinels to the wasteland than they will when they are immediately adjacent to glass-walled office buildings. Nice idea, but it just doesn't work there.
     
     
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There seems to be a rare consensus on the board regarding these arches. I, too, think that they are facing the wrong way. But beyond that, I also agree that they are completely out of place. They actually look better now as lonely sentinels to the wasteland than they will when they are immediately adjacent to glass-walled office buildings. Nice idea, but it just doesn't work there.
I'll add my agreement! It seems like they wanted to add some classical architectural elements, it looks like someone was looking through a catalog and said "these look nice".
     
     
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Ha ha throw me in with the majority on the arches. They just don't seem to be planted in the right direction. Also surprised they added the second arch before construction was finished on River Landing Village.

They do look great on their own but I am afraid they may feel a bit out of place with the incoming architecture.


Gathercole Arches


^ Taken in Nov. 2009 when the arch was just installed.


^ Taken in Nov. 2009 when the arch was just installed.


^ Installation of the the 2nd arch Sept. 2010.


^ Installation of the the 2nd arch Sept. 2010.
     
     
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Well, I guess I stand alone by my original opinion! I think they will/do add a nice contrast.
     
     
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oh well, gateway to downtown i guess
     
     
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