The Great Canadian Transit Thread - Page 454

nephersir7 · #**9061** Posted **Nov 30, 2016, 5:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by flipv

The Champlain Bridge is funded by the GoC because it is a vital economic link.

Turcot links the bridge to the rest of the network and was falling over.

REM does not have the same business case.

I was talking from an engineering and construction perspective, not a political/funding perspective.

Turcot and Champlain represent a bigger technical challenge than the REM, yet are being built on schedule and on budget.

scryer · #**9062** Posted **Nov 30, 2016, 9:06 PM**

I could only see the Montreal REM being finished in 2020 if they started getting shovels in the ground by, like, tomorrow.

The project is huge, you guys. And it's great that there are old tunnels that you can use but you still have to build new ones. And hopefully they can be constructed using the Cut-and-Cover method as that is quicker. There's no telling what kind of obstacles will occur during the project (and hopefully not many as I am totally rooting for this project!). My prediction is that it will be operational by early 2022.

If the project is operational by 2020 then I will request that the Mods remove half of my post count.

GreaterMontréal · #**9063** Posted **Nov 30, 2016, 9:26 PM**

The difference with the REM is that its construction will not be supervised by the Government, but by the CDPQi. The CDPQi will be in charge of everything.

The A-30 project was completed on time. PPP, $1.5B , 35km + 7km , including a bridge .

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WhipperSnapper · #**9064** Posted **Nov 30, 2016, 9:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by d_jeffrey

Or I guess the engineers that worked for that interchange are now working in Toronto? How is that subway construction coming, and that crumbling Gardiner?

Engineers are national and the consortium building the subway in Toronto is led by a Montreal based firm. As far as I know, progress is going extremely well. Of course, it won't be at the speed of the proposed REM. That's just foolish.

I do agree. 4 years is an extremely optimistic time frame anyone in Canada. I'd wait 12 months before betting on my socks as a main course.

GreaterMontréal · #**9065** Posted **Nov 30, 2016, 9:50 PM**

The Canada Line took 4 years to build. All Vancouver stations are underground except Marine Drive, which is elevated.

nephersir7 · #**9066** Posted **Nov 30, 2016, 10:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by scryer

I could only see the Montreal REM being finished in 2020 if they started getting shovels in the ground by, like, tomorrow.

There's no telling what kind of obstacles will occur during the project (and hopefully not many as I am totally rooting for this project!). My prediction is that it will be operational by early 2022.

December 2020 is the target for partial operation on some branches. The Deux-Montagnes branch will be single-tracked when it starts operating, because they'll keep operating the AMT service on the other existing track until 2020.

The whole system (West Island, Airport branches) isn't planned to be finished until the end of 2021, maybe a bit later for the three new underground stations (Edouard-Monpetit, McGill and Peel Basin). So the announced completion date is really not that far off from your prediction.

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Originally Posted by scryer

The project is huge, you guys. And it's great that there are old tunnels that you can use but you still have to build new ones. And hopefully they can be constructed using the Cut-and-Cover method as that is quicker.

The only tunnel that is critical for the project is the one that passes under Peel Basin to link the Champlain Bridge corridor to the Central Station

To meet the December 2020 deadline, they'll have 42 months to build it.

I suppose they will dig that one first and then move the TBM(s?) to the airport tunnel, which can be scheduled to be completed later.

Airboy · #**9067** Posted **Nov 30, 2016, 11:23 PM**

Edmonton Purchases 25-40 EV Busses.

I saw these being tested a while back and they were used them through the winter with little issue.
St ALbert Tansit was the first to purchase these earlier this year.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/11/29/ed...s-road-access-into-capital-budget-update

1overcosc · #**9068** Posted **Dec 1, 2016, 12:13 AM**

Winnipeg has been demo'ing electric buses for a few years now. They generally perform very well; while they are more expensive to buy, this is offset by being cheaper to run. And the cost of buying them is continually dropping.

I expect that by 2025 most cities will only be buying electric for new buses. With 10-15 years being the standard life of a bus that means 100% electric fleets by 2040.

TorontoDrew · #**9069** Posted **Dec 1, 2016, 8:13 PM**

TTC's new bus livery.

Posted on cbc.ca

LeftCoaster · #**9070** Posted **Dec 1, 2016, 9:25 PM**

Hmm, not a fan.

swimmer_spe · #**9071** Posted **Dec 1, 2016, 9:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Hmm, not a fan.

Why?

LeftCoaster · #**9072** Posted **Dec 1, 2016, 10:04 PM**

Well the red hubcaps drive me crazy, always have. Was hoping those would go.

Otherwise it just seems like too much to me, looks like a damn firetruck. That and the red on the bottom always gets so nasty in the winter with all the dirt, they should have gone grey on the bottom.

WhipperSnapper · #**9073** Posted **Dec 2, 2016, 12:26 AM**

Not a fan either but, I'd like to see it without the streetcar as the background. The TTC eliminated the colour grey from their livery years ago. I wonder why.

caltrane74 · #**9074** Posted **Dec 2, 2016, 12:46 AM**

Are they testing the pantograph?

CanSpice · #**9075** Posted **Dec 2, 2016, 8:43 PM**

With today's opening of the Evergreen Extension, Vancouver's SkyTrain is back on top as Canada's longest fully grade-separated metro rail system and the world's longest fully-automated rapid transit system at 79.6 kilometers in total length.

p_xavier · #**9076** Posted **Dec 2, 2016, 8:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by CanSpice

With today's opening of the Evergreen Extension, Vancouver's SkyTrain is back on top as Canada's longest fully grade-separated metro rail system and the world's longest fully-automated rapid transit system at 79.6 kilometers in total length.

Congrats to Vancouver! (Montreal will see you in 4 years for the longest one, and probably 7 for the longest automated one)

1overcosc · #**9077** Posted **Dec 3, 2016, 12:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by d_jeffrey

Congrats to Vancouver! (Montreal will see you in 4 years for the longest one, and probably 7 for the longest automated one)

In 8 years, Toronto will top both by a massive margin if the criteria is frequent electric rail transit, as it will have its massive LRT and RER networks.

I'm not a fan of these sorts of comparisons for this reason.. it's so hard to come up with a good benchmark and so easy to use a benchmark that's biased in favour of a specific city.

Innsertnamehere · #**9078** Posted **Dec 3, 2016, 12:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Are they testing the pantograph?

TTC runs it with pantograph around the yard all the time, from my understanding.

All the new streetcars should switch to a pantograph after next summer, when all the wires have been upgraded to be compatible.

GreaterMontréal · #**9079** Posted **Dec 3, 2016, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by 1overcosc

In 8 years, Toronto will top both by a massive margin if the criteria is frequent electric rail transit, as it will have its massive LRT and RER networks.

I'm not a fan of these sorts of comparisons for this reason.. it's so hard to come up with a good benchmark and so easy to use a benchmark that's biased in favour of a specific city.

electric rail transit is already the norm, but to have a fully-automated rapid transit system is not the norm around the world.

Klazu · #**9080** Posted **Dec 3, 2016, 3:19 AM**

As of today Evergreen Extension (formerly Evergreen Line) is now active and running. Vancouver's Skytrain network expands another bit.

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