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Old Posted Oct 5, 2007, 7:56 PM
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Cool, sounds like 6 million won't be very far - maybe the end of this month!
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2007, 9:20 PM
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What's the projection for like 2010? Around 8.5 million, I guess?

It would be cool if we saw numbers like that for YYC!
245% International growth! Wow!
     
     
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HIGHLIGHTS
- 486,504 passengers reported (432,650 in September 2006)
- Continued double-digit growth and 5.9 million passengers total on a rolling 12-month basis

GROWTH%
- Overall 12.4% (September) and 17.7% (YTD)
- Domestic 9.2% (September) and 14.5% (YTD)
- Transborder 15.8% (September) and 19.2% (YTD)
- International 244.7% (September) and 99.1% (YTD)
This is unreal. We will definately break 6-mil this year, easily.
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2007, 1:18 AM
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Cool, sounds like 6 million won't be very far - maybe the end of this month!
The 5.9 million he quoted is for a "rolling 12 months". In other words from October 2006 to September 2007.

I'm pretty sure we'll still break six mil this year, but we'll need all twelve months to do it.
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2007, 3:52 PM
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we will be 6.1million

great to see!
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2007, 7:32 PM
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I hope the lack on new flights is addressed at the meeting tomorrow. LAX needs another flight.
DEN, ORD, SLC need bigger aircraft.
IAH is proof of why we need more competition in Canada on Transborder routes. Air Canada has that market saturated via YYC. Our only hope is a return of CO, or WJ to enter the market.

I think Edmonton could support a winter charter in to Thailand as well, due to all our tourists.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2007, 7:47 PM
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I hope the lack on new flights is addressed at the meeting tomorrow. LAX needs another flight.
DEN, ORD, SLC need bigger aircraft.
IAH is proof of why we need more competition in Canada on Transborder routes. Air Canada has that market saturated via YYC. Our only hope is a return of CO, or WJ to enter the market.

I think Edmonton could support a winter charter in to Thailand as well, due to all our tourists.
What meetings are these for and how often are they held? Who attends them? The airlines, YEG bigwigs, anyone else?

In one sense i don't see why WestJet doesn't try the YEG-IAH route since it seems like it's sorely missed at YEG. On the other hand, WJ is not a business airline, has no other airline to connect to at IAH and Houston simply isn't a leisure destination that anyone would want to fly to. I just don't see the oil tycoons flying non-business class on WJ, getting a happy birthday song on their flight and eating their chocolate chip cookies.

Unfortunately, we need competition on some of the existing routes to get better aircraft, better frequency and better service from Air Canada. I'm kind of surprised that American hasn't been mentioned much in terms of YEG service. I forget where their hubs are to be honest.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2007, 8:06 PM
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"Ask Edmonton Airports Anything"

Edmonton Airports Fall Public Meeting - Oct. 11, 2007

Location: Telus World of Science (11211 - 142 St.)

Time: 6 p.m.

Featuring a moderated panel discussion with Edmonton Airports President and CEO Reg Milley and several members of the Executive Management Team.

An audience Q&A will follow.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2007, 8:52 PM
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Depart YEG Arrive SFO
Flight #6487 7:00am 9:15am
Flight #6744 1:14pm 3:29pm

hope YEG sees more we need more.
     
     
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"Ask Edmonton Airports Anything"

Edmonton Airports Fall Public Meeting - Oct. 11, 2007

Location: Telus World of Science (11211 - 142 St.)

Time: 6 p.m.

Featuring a moderated panel discussion with Edmonton Airports President and CEO Reg Milley and several members of the Executive Management Team.

An audience Q&A will follow.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2007, 9:17 PM
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"Ask Edmonton Airports Anything"

Edmonton Airports Fall Public Meeting - Oct. 11, 2007

Location: Telus World of Science (11211 - 142 St.)

Time: 6 p.m.

Featuring a moderated panel discussion with Edmonton Airports President and CEO Reg Milley and several members of the Executive Management Team.

An audience Q&A will follow.
I'm glad i asked. Are these meetings ever advertised anywhere? I couldn't find any info regarding this "Ask Edmonton Airports Anything" open meeting on the EIA website.

Does the Q and A start at 6pm? Or is the panel discussion start at 6pm where everyone can listen in.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2007, 9:30 PM
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^new?
Right now the morning flight is the only flight to sfo. So that equals an extra 70 flights a day.

Wonder if LAX will be added to 2x with more filming happening in Edmonton with Lions gate?
     
     
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Anybody know how much air traffic has increased for destinations north of Edmonton over the years? I've always heard Edm referred to as the Gateway to the North.. just curious what the numbers are like these days.

Living in MacEwan (close to airport), I'm actually quite surprised to see
all the planes that fly over my house heading north.
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Depart YEG Arrive SFO
Flight #6487 7:00am 9:15am
Flight #6744 1:14pm 3:29pm

hope YEG sees more we need more.
Brento - I do not see the pm flight on the schedule - when does it start??
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2007, 11:21 PM
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Anybody know how much air traffic has increased for destinations north of Edmonton over the years? I've always heard Edm referred to as the Gateway to the North.. just curious what the numbers are like these days.

Living in MacEwan (close to airport), I'm actually quite surprised to see
all the planes that fly over my house heading north.
Here is stats from 2006:

-Passengers from Grande Prairie, Ft Mc Murray, Yellowknife and Saskatoon using YEG to connect to other destinations increased over 42per cent in 2006
-Passengers from those four markets using Edmonton as there final destination increased 23 percent in 2006
- YEG surpassed YVR to offer more seats per week to the northern communities than any other community.

On that note. The city centre airport is also one of the fastest growing airports for movements per Transport Canada.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2007, 3:08 AM
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So, I saw the latest plan at the airport q and a. I didnt stick around. Not sure about the expansion. basically it is an extension of the south terminal towards the southeast allowing aircraft to access the terminal on both sides. Will be done in two phases so that operations are not sacrificed. First a satellite terminal and then connect the satellite with the south terminal. Did not appear to be any addition of groundside and no new curbside access.
I didnt ask about timelines
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2007, 4:58 AM
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$1B airport expansion won't raise fees

Thu, October 11, 2007
By RENATO GANDIA, SUN MEDIA

A $1-billion three-phase expansion to the Edmonton International Airport won’t trigger immediate increases in airport fees, says its chief executive officer.

The ballooning number of passengers at the airport has forced the expansion but management will generate a construction fund largely from “non-aeronautical” revenues, Reg Milley told Sun Media in a phone interview today before attending a public meeting at Telus World of Science.

Passengers are not going to see an increase in the airport improvement fee while other air terminals in Canada have increased that fee from $16 to $20 recently, he said.

“We don’t foresee having to do that in the near future. At some point in time we may have to, but not right now.”

The airport has been experiencing unprecedented growth due to the economic boom, he said.

“We’re growing at a rate that’s far exceeding any airport in Canada, pretty much in North America.”

The three-phase expansion will begin in 2008 and is expected to be finished by 2012, just in time for when the number of passengers at the international airport is expected to swell by 8% or from six million to nine million annually.

A building will be added to the south end of the terminal and new gates for departure and arrival will be opened.

Currently, the airport has 17 gates, which departing and arriving airplanes clog most days, Milley said.

“Every morning there’s an airplane in every gate waiting to get in or to get out and most days there’s a third plane waiting,” said the CEO.

To help ease the congestion, the airport will expand its apron space – parking for aircrafts – for the first phase of expansion, followed by the construction of a hammer-head-like building with 13 new gates.

The third phase will be connecting the hammer head to the existing terminal.

Aeronautical fees for the airlines are also not expected to go up.

“If we increase fees to the airlines, they just pass it on to the customers. You don’t want to do that,” said Milley. “That’s why we’re doing a phased approach.” Edmonton Airports, he said, is in a “unique position” to generate revenues from other sources.

“We’ve got land that we can develop and get non-aeronautical revenues,” he said, but did not elaborate on what kind of development management may consider.

The airport expansion itself will add new retail and food concession spaces, which are revenue sources, he said. Plus the continued increase in passengers will bring more revenue to the airport, he added.

Ward 5 Coun. Bryan Anderson said the airport needs to negotiate with the City of Edmonton and ETS to bring regular bus service to the airport to alleviate its “parking woes.”

Construction of the new expansion is expected to peak by late 2009 to early 2010.
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Billion-dollar expansion set to take off at International
Airport expects 50% more passengers by 2012
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Edmonton Airports will spend $1 billion expanding the international airport to handle the forecast nine million passengers a year in 2012.


Work will start next year on 13 new passenger walkways linking aircraft to the terminal, and more space for parked planes. There will also be a new concourse, more parking and retail space, and a bigger U.S. transborder holding area, CEO Reg Milley said Thursday.


“We have to catch up with the unprecedented 50-per-cent growth since 2004. The current terminal was designed for 5.5 million passengers by 2015, and we’ll hit 6.1 million this year.


“In the past we had the luxury of being ahead of the curve, but now we’re trying to catch up.”


Just over a year ago, when Milley first said further expansion would be necessary, the tentative cost estimate was $100 million to $150 million over five years.


Even as late as last December, the authority set up $200 million in financing with Alberta Capital Finance Authority.


But Milley said Thursday that was based on 7.5 million passengers by 2012, when it’s more likely to be nine million as the Alberta economy shows no signs of slowing down over the next two or three years.


The authority will be talking to ACFA about extending its credit facility to cover the new costs, he said. ACFA is a special-act corporation established in 1956 by the province to finance major capital projects.

As a shareholder, Edmonton Airports can borrow money at favourable rates.


There are no plans to increase either airport landing fees or the airport improvement fee, he said.


“A lot of airports have increased the AIF from $15 to $20, but we don’t plan to do that.”


A major priority is building a new arm of plane arrival and departure bridges, he said.


The current 17 bridges are full first thing every morning, and there are often second and third waves of planes waiting, he added.


The new bridge will be built away from the main terminal so disruption of current facilities is minimal. Passengers will be transported to the new gates as they are built, and the arm will be connected to the terminal when it’s completed.


“We’re hoping it will all be seamless for passengers with tickets,” Milley said. “We can’t afford to lose any gates during construction.”


The current squeeze on labour and materials is “a huge concern” heading into further expansion, he said.


There will be a competitive bidding process, but it’s a big enough project that the authority believes it can form long-term alliances with contractors to make sure deadlines are met, he said.


Moving fencelines to put the expansion projects outside the heavily secured airside area will mean construction workers won’t have to go through daily security checks. That alone will save 25 per cent on construction costs, he said.


Milley said he’s thankful the previous administration had the vision to build the previous terminal expansion, completed three years ago, despite criticism they were building a white elephant.


The phenomenal passenger growth has taken the international from a small airport to a medium-sized one in three years, and that’s unprecedented in North America, he said.
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