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Old Posted Sep 19, 2012, 3:56 PM
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The business product yes, but BA does not have the 3 class cabin operating to YYC (which would include the first class). In the beginning they did operate the route with a 3 class 772.
Plus we are not allowed to connect through Calgary if I recall

Plus another benefit is flying on a 747.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 19, 2012, 6:44 PM
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Why would ANYONE waste an hour going west then to turn around and fly back over where you just left from...and this does not include change of airpoprts, planes, baggage, delays etc. Duh...
Cost...sometimes it is cheaper to fly to the bigger cities
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 19, 2012, 8:59 PM
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Air Canada set to unveil plans to launch low cost carrier in 2013
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:24 PM

MONTREAL - Air Canada says it is a couple of weeks away from announcing details for a separate low-cost airline that will serve transatlantic and leisure routes in the Caribbean and the United States.

Michael Rousseau, the airline's chief financial officer, told a CIBC investment conference on Wednesday that the carrier will be wholly owned by Air Canada, but carry a different name.
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The new business model will open the low cost carrier to new routes in Europe that currently aren't cost competitive for Air Canada and allow it to be more competitive on Caribbean and some U.S. destinations.
http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/air+cana...st+carrier+in+2013/6442718170/story.html

I wonder what routes YEG will be getting, knowing AC, I think we will get the following routes:

















     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 1:26 AM
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I wonder what routes YEG will be getting, knowing AC, I think we will get the following routes:

















About the same as YEG gets from WestJet.

In both scenarios likely we will see LHR downguaged to the low cost, additional service from AC to Vegas and LAX, and one sun spots. WJ will remove jets in some spots for more frequency like YMM, but also reduce service with more direct service from northern cities to their Calgary hub.
     
     
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I just hope the new airline ends up with a similar entertainment system.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 2:09 AM
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I just hope the new airline ends up with a similar entertainment system.
Amen to that.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 3:55 AM
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Amen to that.
Agree, ACs is far superior to WestJets
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 4:11 AM
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Sounds like YEG is doing well in Delta's eyes...to bad they have CRJ900's on the route...
"Delta said other cities with oil-related jumps in traffic include Minot, Bismarck, Fargo and Grand Forks in North Dakota, as well as Anchorage and Fairbanks, Alaska, and Edmonton, Alberta."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/a...c-010d-11e2-bbf0-e33b4ee2f0e8_story.html
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 4:26 AM
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Moving up to mainline is a big commitment. Could B717s be in YEG's future as they are delivered?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 4:33 AM
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Yeah, YYZ T1 is pretty barren for amenities. I would expect a lot more for a terminal of that size.
YYZ may have some of the worst retail in the world for an airport its size. They seem to be slowly changing things but, man do they have a long way to go. Not sure who was originally in charge of concessions at the GTAA, but they shouldn't be employed anymore.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 2:22 PM
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About the same as YEG gets from WestJet.

In both scenarios likely we will see LHR downguaged to the low cost, additional service from AC to Vegas and LAX, and one sun spots. WJ will remove jets in some spots for more frequency like YMM, but also reduce service with more direct service from northern cities to their Calgary hub.
Well it looks like i'll be connecting through YYZ then since one, AC cramming 20% more seats into their 763's doesn't sound to comfortable and two, WS won't be flying any international flights anywhere but specifically Europe from YEG. I'll just fly to YYZ and connect to WAW via LO's new 787's.
     
     
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Where are they getting all these 767? Will the 767-300 from Edmonton be moved to the LC? I've been trying to get upgraded from YEG-LHR and it's been harder....hopefully they will keep that route mainline. I do hope we gain with this not loss...but something tells me different.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 3:57 PM
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I was assuming that AC will be adding seats to their existing aircraft slowly. Maybe they are already as YEG, YYC and i believe YVR have had their sun flights all but disappear. Come to think of it, LO will dispose of (return to the lessors)their four 767's by the middle of next year.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2012, 5:09 PM
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Where are they getting all these 767? Will the 767-300 from Edmonton be moved to the LC? I've been trying to get upgraded from YEG-LHR and it's been harder....hopefully they will keep that route mainline. I do hope we gain with this not loss...but something tells me different.
I believe they will be converting as they receive 787s for mainline.

Upgrades are harder to get as upgrades out of YYC and YVR are very difficult so people are connecting.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2012, 3:46 PM
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I believe they will be converting as they receive 787s for mainline.

Upgrades are harder to get as upgrades out of YYC and YVR are very difficult so people are connecting.
There news release says they announcing 767 and 319 routes in 2 weeks...

Yes there are some people transfering in YEG for LHR, but when I've been flying lately most people are either from Europe or YEG at the front of the cabin.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2012, 6:21 PM
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I just hope the new airline ends up with a similar entertainment system.
I doubt it...it is a low cost airline after all and have you wondered why AC have not been fitting out their newly acquired 767's with business classes or IFE, even though they had them for a couple of years?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2012, 6:40 PM
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I doubt it...it is a low cost airline after all and have you wondered why AC have not been fitting out their newly acquired 767's with business classes or IFE, even though they had them for a couple of years?
Well if you are referring to the 2 aircraft acquired from Hawaiian they actually do have a business class, just not the executive first lie flat seats that are in he rest of the wde body fleet. Out west in the winter it is old as business for tips to Hawaii, and out east in the summer it is economy plus for trips to Europe.

These will likely be the first ones in the new carrier, with the other 767s transferring as 787s are acquired.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 23, 2012, 2:43 AM
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About the same as YEG gets from WestJet.
No comparison. WestJet offers 27 non-stop destinations from YEG, Air Canada offers 12.
     
     
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No comparison. WestJet offers 27 non-stop destinations from YEG, Air Canada offers 12.
How many of those 27 destinations are sun destinations?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2012, 4:31 AM
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How many of those 27 destinations are sun destinations?
Four are in Mexico. Still, 23 to 12.

Offered by WestJet but not Air Canada: Victoria, Kelowna, Abbotsford, Comox, Hamilton, Halifax, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Palm Springs, Orlando, Maui, Cancun, Peurto Vallarta, Mazatlan, Cabo San Lucas.

Offered by Air Canada but not WestJet: London-Heathrow
     
     
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