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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 1:20 AM
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 1:45 AM
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I don't think I can make it, got a bit of paying work tomorrow. When and where is it, anyways?
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 3:22 AM
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But I have to right now, cuz after seeing the way the owners of grand wilshire are shooting for the moon....going for record height in LA....I find myself now asking why can't the new tower be even taller?! I wanna see something that rivals the tallest of the tall anywhere in the world.

But no matter. It's all good.
Well I've said it before occasionally... my fantasy dream is for a 2,000 ft glass obelisk that's part of a 10 tower or so development in a newly zoned area between San Pedro, 8th, 6th, and central; an area currently comprised mainly of single story warehouses. It would have an observation deck and restaurant in the top "pyramid" portion. :Cool: I would also put an extendable spire inside the center so that can be extended if the FAA ever decides to change the 2000 ft height limit. That way it can be extended to surpass the PAIFC in china.

In all seriousness, at this point, having a building be 2nd tallest in the world matters more than the 1st, because the building that currently holds the latter, quite frankly, has simply bastardized that title and has turned it into a p***s measuring contest.
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a) It'll always be Library Tower, Sears Tower, and Oakland Coliseum to me. I don't give a crap who paid what for and I can't believe that anyone other than a corporate CEO would get so riled up about "official names."

b) Wilshire Grand finally recreates in LA what's been going on in Asia for years. Glad to see that something of this caliber is finally in our beloved city. With that said, it certainly doesn't displace Library Tower as my favorite LA tower.
a) to be fair, seeing as I'm not from Los Angeles and didn't acquire an extensive knowledge of skyscrapers until around 2005 via emporis, I've only ever known it as the US Bank Tower all a matter of perspective my friend.

b) I said exactly the same thing, this reminds me, by design and the appearance of the renderings that it elevates the skyline of Downtown LA to the level of the burgeoning cities of Asia. If any city in the US should have a skyline inspired by the Asian tigers, it's Los Angeles ...as it shouldn't! Even with all the new towers going up in New York, the Empire State remains our quintessential icon. For you guys in LA, it's the Library Tower (that was for you) and that's a beautiful thing.

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As excited as I am about the new tower, this blog post from Yaroslavsky has me more psyched. It's an update on the expo line phase 2. It relates to downtown in that before the new Wilshire Grand is finished, I'll be riding the expo line from downtown to Santa Monica, and people will be able to move a lot more freely east to west. As a web designer, a lot of the jobs are in SM, and I think this will open the work force up to the whole region while not having to drive. I can live downtown, but work out there if I chose.
http://zev.lacounty.gov/blog/expo-2s-ahead-of-the-curve
This blog post puts everything I've felt about the ongoing maturation of LA as a truly urban city into words. The rapid expansion of the transit system has been nothing short of astounding and inspiring. I'd even go so far as to say that it has done Downtown a service towards making it a vital city center. Los Angeles' downtown, IMO, could only build all its tall skyscrapers without adequate transit for so long before it hit a wall. There's a reason why corporate headquarters are located all over the place in Southern California and not in one centralized locale: how many cars could you really squeeze into one neighborhood before there would be perpetual gridlock?

The timing is telling, the vacancy rate led to a stopping short of construction in the early 90s, right as the city was approaching 30 years without any rail rapid transit. However as the Metrorail system has expanded, vacancy rates have dropped, downtown neighborhoods have reawakened, and construction, at long last, has begun again. I see the Wilshire Grand Tower as both a culmination and a beginning. It tops off the renewed rise of downtwn and Los Angeles as a whole, and has ushered in a new era of tower-building. I expect (and hope) that more skyline-altering towers come in the near future. It's an exciting time.
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 4:33 AM
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a) to be fair, seeing as I'm not from Los Angeles and didn't acquire an extensive knowledge of skyscrapers until around 2005 via emporis, I've only ever known it as the US Bank Tower all a matter of perspective my friend.
Out of curiosity, since I have no idea, are there old school New Yorkers who call the MetLife Building "the Pan Am?"
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 5:59 AM
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The new tower is definitely exciting. A couple quesitons maybe somebody can answer:

- Will the tiara/crown thing at the top be enclosed? The new tower in Cincinnati had a similar looking tiara in renderings, but it ended up just being a steel frame and not being enclosed. It makes an otherwise attractive building look tacky.

- An article I read today (LA Times maybe?) mentioned views of the ocean from the sky lobby. Can you see the sea from US Bank tower? Or is usually too hazy? I can never seem to make out the ocean from the Hollywood hills, but of course that's further away.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 6:08 AM
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Can you see the sea from US Bank tower? Or is usually too hazy? I can never seem to make out the ocean from the Hollywood hills, but of course that's further away.
Probably on a good day

You can faintly see it even with all that smog, so on a good day, i'm sure you can clearly see the ocean.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 6:24 AM
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An article I read today (LA Times maybe?) mentioned views of the ocean from the sky lobby. Can you see the sea from US Bank tower? Or is usually too hazy? I can never seem to make out the ocean from the Hollywood hills, but of course that's further away.
There's been times that, while hiking, I've been able to see clear to Long Beach. So yes, I would say that you could see the ocean from the US Bank.

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Wow, nice looking tower. If only we could get something like this in Phoenix!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2013, 2:18 PM
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There's been times that, while hiking, I've been able to see clear to Long Beach. So yes, I would say that you could see the ocean from the US Bank.
On a clear day, I can see the Vincent Thomas Bridge in San Pedro from my apartment in Westlake. And that's over 20 miles away.
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On a clear day, I can see the Vincent Thomas Bridge in San Pedro from my apartment in Westlake. And that's over 20 miles away.
I've hiked the Verdugo Hills on a clear winter day a few years ago and you can see Catalina, Saddleback Mountain, and the Channel Islands from there. This is higher up but also farther away from the coast than DTLA.
     
     
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1100 feet tall, surpassing Library Tower and becoming the tallest building on the West Coast.











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This is just f*ckin awesome, I love it. I just wish it was taller. Go LA!
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Sometimes you have to adapt. The owners of the Coffee Bar on Spring Street have found there are too many coffee places in the neighborhood, especially the beautiful urban-looking Starbucks on Spring and 6th. So, they have added more to their space. As you recall, they also closed Urbano Pizza and will open more of a bar in the space next to their Library Bar. Here is an article on the WineBar@CoffeeBar in Examiner.com.

http://www.examiner.com/slideshow/chef-sergio-perera-chef-greg-bernhardt-winebar-coffeebar

They are also remodeling the old dive bar King Eddy Saloon and they own Spring St. Bar.
     
     
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I need to go to CoffeeBar more often. Although Syrup across the street has a death grip on me. Love that place.
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I need to go to CoffeeBar more often. Although Syrup across the street has a death grip on me. Love that place.
Yeah, I've made CoffeeBar my daily place after going to Spring for Coffee for a while. While I appreciate the symbolism of the Starbucks in terms of where the neighborhood is, I am really not a fan. It might look nice (albeit completely generic) from the outside, but its heart is lifeless.
     
     
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I need to go to CoffeeBar more often. Although Syrup across the street has a death grip on me. Love that place.
CoffeeBar is fantastic. Order a 1906 on a hot day (or even a cool day) and enjoy. The downtown coffee scene is a spoil of riches.
     
     
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Sometimes you have to adapt. The owners of the Coffee Bar on Spring Street have found there are too many coffee places in the neighborhood, especially the beautiful urban-looking Starbucks on Spring and 6th. So, they have added more to their space. As you recall, they also closed Urbano Pizza and will open more of a bar in the space next to their Library Bar. Here is an article on the WineBar@CoffeeBar in Examiner.com.

http://www.examiner.com/slideshow/chef-sergio-perera-chef-greg-bernhardt-winebar-coffeebar

They are also remodeling the old dive bar King Eddy Saloon and they own Spring St. Bar.
Hate that Starbucks. Definition of corporate behemoth trying to run local businesses into the ground. They put that thing on a block that already about 3-4 cafes.
     
     
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Hate that Starbucks. Definition of corporate behemoth trying to run local businesses into the ground. They put that thing on a block that already about 3-4 cafes.
I hate Starbucks and would never be a customer of theirs. That said, this is absolutely one of the top few businesses on Spring. Best hours. Always full. Activates the corner that before it really had nothing going on.

Syrup, Tierra Mia, and LA Cafe are my personal favorites on Spring, and theyre doing just fine despite the insanely popular corporate store on the same block. Why? Because they offer great product.
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I was at Figaro Bistro last night and saw one of these 'Downtown Examiner' papers laying around. Picked it up and went through it. It's very poorly written & they have no website. Has anyone heard of these guys before? Pretty much every article in this paper is news that hasn't been reported by the mainstream downtown news guys before.

Here are pictures of the most interesting 2 articles I saw:







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ive heard the rumors about the broadway trade center and in fact, one of Huizars aides and an important person involved with bringing back broadway told me about something happening with that building months ago, about the same time as the urban outfitters rumor first surfaced, so i think there are legs behind this.

I really really hope the GH Palmer development will be quality as that intersection is so very important, but im not holding my breath. At least we all know that the community pressure will be very very strong towards Palmer since this development is in the core and an important piece to the Bringing back broadway plan
     
     
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