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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 1:27 AM
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My take:

DTLA does have a lot way to go and in a lot of ways is still extremely rough around the edges. In the year my wife and I lived there, her safety walking home at night was definitely one of my big concerns. She is 90 lbs soaking wet, and there are characters that wander over from Skid Row that can be aggressive. She got followed more than once. I'm not a sheltered suburbanite either- I've lived in Northeast DC and East London. I'm just being realistic.

That being said, I love downtown. The reason we moved to Ktown wasn't for safety, but because we're saving to buy a place in DTLA because we like it so much. I've lived through enough gentrification to know when a neighborhood has crossed the threshhold, and is going to keep getting better and better. We will be back downtown, hopefully within a year

As for the comments on this board about DTLA's failings, I think they're just being realistic, but I agree that it gets tiresome. I come here to get excited about downtown's future, not obsess about its warts at present. And I have to say, these are exciting times. Now more than anytime since I got here, it feels like all of DTLA is under construction. Its thrilling to think that this boom is just getting started. So its not like we don't have positive things to talk about here.


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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 1:29 AM
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Two small notes from a quick stop downtown this afternoon. The Wetzels Pretzels at the Hope St. entrance to 7th/Metro Center is open, and chalk lines have been drawn for new continental crosswalks at 6th and Hill.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 1:39 AM
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I'd also love to buy downtown. There's not much on the market right now and most of the upcoming stuff seems to be rental.

And in my defense about my comments - it's easy to ignore the "warts" when you aren't in it day to day. I viewed this board as a discussion of all things downtown, not just cheerleading. My mistake. That's the last I'll say about it...

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My take:

DTLA does have a lot way to go and in a lot of ways is still extremely rough around the edges. In the year my wife and I lived there, her safety walking home at night was definitely one of my big concerns. She is 90 lbs soaking wet, and there are characters that wander over from Skid Row that can be aggressive. She got followed more than once. I'm not a sheltered suburbanite either- I've lived in Northeast DC and East London. I'm just being realistic.

That being said, I love downtown. The reason we moved to Ktown wasn't for safety, but because we're saving to buy a place in DTLA because we like it so much. I've lived through enough gentrification to know when a neighborhood has crossed the threshhold, and is going to keep getting better and better. We will be back downtown, hopefully within a year

As for the comments on this board about DTLA's failings, I think they're just being realistic, but I agree that it gets tiresome. I come here to get excited about downtown's future, not obsess about its warts at present. And I have to say, these are exciting times. Now more than anytime since I got here, it feels like all of DTLA is under construction. Its thrilling to think that this boom is just getting started. So its not like we don't have positive things to talk about here.


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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 1:46 AM
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My take:

DTLA does have a lot way to go and in a lot of ways is still extremely rough around the edges. In the year my wife and I lived there, her safety walking home at night was definitely one of my big concerns. She is 90 lbs soaking wet, and there are characters that wander over from Skid Row that can be aggressive. She got followed more than once. I'm not a sheltered suburbanite either- I've lived in Northeast DC and East London. I'm just being realistic.

That being said, I love downtown. The reason we moved to Ktown wasn't for safety, but because we're saving to buy a place in DTLA because we like it so much. I've lived through enough gentrification to know when a neighborhood has crossed the threshhold, and is going to keep getting better and better. We will be back downtown, hopefully within a year

As for the comments on this board about DTLA's failings, I think they're just being realistic, but I agree that it gets tiresome. I come here to get excited about downtown's future, not obsess about its warts at present. And I have to say, these are exciting times. Now more than anytime since I got here, it feels like all of DTLA is under construction. Its thrilling to think that this boom is just getting started. So its not like we don't have positive things to talk about here.


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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 2:32 AM
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Here is a DT News article regarding the sale of the Chase building to Onni in 2011.
I wasn't aware that the devlpr of the new apt tower also owns the entire section of 9th St between Olive & Hill. I actually originally wondered that whoever did own the old Coast federal bldg.....which is the former name of that bldg I was trying to recall last night!....was unhappy that their parking lot had been removed to make way for the new proj.

Onni appears to be rather ambitious, at least in terms of the amt of land they've purchased around where their new apt bldg is going up. I also originally assumed they were small newbie players, from Canada, who perhaps had stumbled onto a piece of land & decided to build on it at the last minute.

I actually was suspicious they were going to be similar to the owner of the infamous glass tower proj, who kept saying he was going to build across from the elleven condo bldg, but never kept his word.

TG, Onni isn't like that person!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 2:51 AM
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And in my defense about my comments - it's easy to ignore the "warts" when you aren't in it day to day.
that's why when ppl who actually are in dt 24/7, or spend lots of time there, talk about the hood, I listen. I feel the benefit of the doubt is due you forumers who reside or work, or both, in the hood.....to those who are living the experience.

As for those of us based miles away, or on the outside looking in, our perspective can be quite skewed....& I admit that about myself too. I generally tend to perceive dt differently when it's just a place on the map...or just a topic to discuss here in an internet forum....compared with my reactions when I'm actually there, feet on the ground, eyes looking around. More times than not, I've gone in wearing...or wanting to wear....rose colored glasses, but have come away feeling impatient, unsure & frazzled.

as for the current round of new devlpt, I think what makes it more important than the last round is that it builds on what has already been created in dt. so it's adding another layer....a greatly needed one....to what until now has been an overly thin layer.

plus, I've heard too many horror stories from ppl like you & hunterk who have been verbally intimidated or harassed by homeless ppl in dt. I still recall a forumer called ralossi, who was a regular here awhile ago, who described one incident where he was verbally intimidated & disgustingly humiliated....he was called the "f" word....by some crazed ppl wandering around the hood. I still recall a rather minor incident of my own yrs ago, when I was walking around the city hall mall & some homeless guy shouted out "whatchoo doin' here!!?"
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 6:18 AM
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LA Downtown news has an article on Evoc (nee Meruelo Maddux) selling a bunch of their downtown properties. Interestingly:


http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/evoq-...dbe3464-708b-11e2-b72f-0019bb2963f4.html
Since the conversation drifted into other things, we missed out on taking a closer look at this.

This is very interesting news to me. The seven lots are represented on this map. One of them is entitled for a 42 story tower.



It also appears that Onni owns the lot on Hope across from Luma/Evo that was supposed to be a tower at one point several years back.
     
     
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Was the person who ordered this

Be turned into this


Put in jail?
LOL.

Jail would have been too good for him. Running him out on a rail would have been better.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 7:34 AM
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People say that's city living, but that would depend on you're comparing it to and what your expectations are. It can seriously wear you down here - you see the potential, the possibilities, but there's a layer of poverty here that will take the snot out of you. People call it authenticity, but what it is in reality is somebody peeing on your front door. Or defecating on the sidewalk. Or doing heroin against your car. You feel bad for people and ponder what makes our society so heartless, but at the same time wonder why you're doing this to yourself. Combined with a frustrating lack of resources beyond high end restaurants (how many times have I needed some ingredient, like a freaking pepper and yet I had to get in the car to get one, for example), it just grinds you down. But hey, want a >$150 French dinner for two - plenty of options.
Well put...........its the way I felt living in Highland Park in the '90s. Being a pioneer has its upsides and definite downsides.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 3:06 PM
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In other news, The reveal on the Wilshire Grand at 2:30 PM tomorrow should be an answer to many questions. Will anyone be there or be taking pics or Vids?
I'll be there. Ill try to post as much info as I'm allowed! Ill see if I can snap some photos as well.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 8:16 PM
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Parklets have arrived in Downtown LA!



More photos to come a bit later.
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Looking great! Makes the street much more pedestrian friendly, I'll be sure to check it out next time I head over to downtown(this Monday).
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2013, 9:13 PM
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1100 feet tall, surpassing Library Tower and becoming the tallest building on the West Coast.















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Los Angeles, feast your eyes on the new finalized rendering of Wilshire Grand Tower from AC Martin that will rise prominently in Downtown LA’s burgeoning Financial District. So prominent, in fact, that the new “billion dollar tower” will surpass LA’s current tallest skyscraper — Library Tower (aka US Bank Tower) at 1,018 feet — as the new tallest on the West Coast (taller than any other structure west of Chicago). At 73 floors and 1,100 feet tall including the spire, which counts toward the building’s official height according to the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, the new Wilshire Grand Tower will be a substantial addition to the LA skyline, reorienting the visual weight currently centered around the Library Tower toward this new gleaming structure to the southwest. The tower will be capped by an iconic sail-shaped architectural feature that will be illuminated with LED lighting at night (a common sight in Asia’s flagship cities like Shanghai).

The Wilshire Grand Tower is being developed through a partnership with the building owner, global shipping giant Hanjin Group, which also owns Korean Air, and one of LA’s most prolific and renowned architectural firms, AC Martin. The new tower will include a yet-to-be-determined 900-room, 4-star hotel (rumors pointed at Le Meridien last year) taking up the upper floors with a unique “sky lobby” on the 70th floor where hotel guests will arrive in less than a minute in “one of the fastest dual high-speed elevators in the world,” according to Chris Martin, CEO of AC Martin. From there, hotel guests through a top-down approach will access their rooms from taking elevators down from the lobby. In addition, the tower will include 400,000 square feet of office space below the hotel floors.

On the ground level, which is where the bulk of people will interact with the structure, there will be 45,000 square feet of commercial retail space that will become a center for fine dining and luxury retailers. Also located directly across the street from LA’s busiest subway station, 7th/Metro, a “pedestrian friendly, beautifully landscaped plaza [will] provide open space and promote community among hotel guests, business owners, downtown residents and civic leaders,” according to the Wilshire Grand website.

The biggest game changing feature of all about The Wilshire Grand Tower will be the absence of the “traditional” helipad seen on all modern high-rises in Los Angeles. (There is still a smaller inconspicuous helipad on the “sail” that will allow a helicopter to land in emergencies.) Because of a fire building code (titled the “Emergency Helicopter Landing Facility“), all modern high-rises in Los Angeles built after 1974 have flat roofs, which have given LA its uniform “stumpy skyline” without defining landmark towers seen so commonly in major cities around the world. The Wilshire Grand Tower will set a new precedent as it will have a sail-shaped roof line accentuated with a architectural spire.

How was this done? The change was allowed by the LA Fire Department due to new advances in building technology involving the structure’s elevator shafts to be reinforced within a concrete core, which actually elevates the fire safety standard making the building even safer in emergency situations.

Last October, city officials gathered in front of the vacated Wilshire Grand Hotel at 7th and Figueroa for a press event to kick-off the start of demolition work to dismantle the hotel down floor-by-floor — a year-long process slated for completion this fall. Anyone walking by the Wilshire Grand Hotel recently has seen green tarp covering many portions of the building as construction crews are actively taking apart the 15-story hotel.

Completion for the Wilshire Grand Tower is slated for March 2017.
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Wowowow.

That rooftop pool looks insane.
     
     
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Wow... that's going to have an incredible impact on the skyline... not to mention the street level. Very exciting! Also like the fact that it was designed by a local architect.

Hats off to our very own Brigham Yen for breaking the story!
     
     
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Rendering of the sky lobby (70th floor).


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Would it be taller than Library Tower without the spire?
     
     
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Rendering of the sky lobby (70th floor).


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The base.

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