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Old Posted Mar 9, 2015, 7:40 PM
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A developer has purchased the Granite High School Building in South Salt Lake. I'ts too bad that the building could not be converted into a community center for the area, but a least something is going to be done with the property.
All I know is that Granite School District is in the process of selling the property for 10.6 million to a partnership between Wasatch Residential Properties and Garbett Homes.

The property is approximately 26 acres.
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Seems like Sandy City is making a big pass in a new building boom for the city these days.

There are several new developments taking place up and down state street or near by between south towne mall and the expo center.

1. inContact campus development: A group of 5-story building/s going in near the workers comp. building just off state street.
2. ????? development: not sure what this one is, but there's some kind of smaller development just south of the incontact development on a small lot right on state street just north of the trailer park. What is this? Retail? Small office? Looks like it has underground parking.
3. Millrock/east village twin office buildings : This was the one I learned about yesterday that shows a rendering of two 8-story buildings with ground level parking with street retail in front. I like this one. Says to begin in 2015, anytime. Corner of State and 10000 South.
4. The Prestige 25-story apartments: Pipe dream? Since it's now March and that February ground breaking never took place. Will this one even happen?
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Seems like Sandy City is making a big pass in a new building boom for the city these days.

There are several new developments taking place up and down state street or near by between south towne mall and the expo center.

1. inContact campus development: A group of 5-story building/s going in near the workers comp. building just off state street.
2. ????? development: not sure what this one is, but there's some kind of smaller development just south of the incontact development on a small lot right on state street just north of the trailer park. What is this? Retail? Small office? Looks like it has underground parking.
3. Millrock/east village twin office buildings : This was the one I learned about yesterday that shows a rendering of two 8-story buildings with ground level parking with street retail in front. I like this one. Says to begin in 2015, anytime. Corner of State and 10000 South.
4. The Prestige 25-story apartments: Pipe dream? Since it's now March and that February ground breaking never took place. Will this one even happen?
I heard from someone at Sandy City that nothing has happened with the Prestige towers in a little while. They said the developer turned in all the renderings but never continued from there. That is not to say it won't happen, I hope it does but I'm also not going to get my hopes up. Cool to hear about the other good projects proposed. I haven't heard about the two 8-story buildings; that will be a good addition to the area, although I always would encourage parking structures.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2015, 9:03 AM
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I heard from someone at Sandy City that nothing has happened with the Prestige towers in a little while. They said the developer turned in all the renderings but never continued from there. That is not to say it won't happen, I hope it does but I'm also not going to get my hopes up. Cool to hear about the other good projects proposed. I haven't heard about the two 8-story buildings; that will be a good addition to the area, although I always would encourage parking structures.
Thanks for the update however that is pretty discouraging about the Prestige development. But not surprising Sandy city seems like they always underperform when it comes to for filling their high-rise development fantasies. The city of Sandy seems to do very good job of talking out of their anus but they can't ever achieve their objectives. They talk to talk about how they want to separate themselves from the other South Valley cities but at the end of the day they just develop the same type of apartments and office buildings that we see in other suburban cities. I suspect we will probably just see a lackluster six-story building on that site.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2015, 9:26 AM
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A 25-story tower on that site was unrealistic to begin with. It was never going to happen.

I like the idea of the twin 8-story towers with ground-level retail much more anyway.

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All I know is that Granite School District is in the process of selling the property for 10.6 million to a partnership between Wasatch Residential Properties and Garbett Homes.

The property is approximately 26 acres.
That is too bad.

I'm not too knowledgeable on my residential construction companies yet. What do they have a reputation for?
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2015, 3:20 PM
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I'm not too knowledgeable on my residential construction companies yet. What do they have a reputation for?
I'm not sure about the other one but Garbett has gotten into the green/zero energy house movement at Daybreak and surrounding in South Jordan. The nice thing about them is that they are putting the features in their stock homes. I guess we will see what they have in mind.
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I'm not sure about the other one but Garbett has gotten into the green/zero energy house movement at Daybreak and surrounding in South Jordan. The nice thing about them is that they are putting the features in their stock homes. I guess we will see what they have in mind.
Garbett also has a small subdivision not far from Granite High School, 400 East/3600 South or something. Very green/zero energy, but integrated and fits in well with the older neighborhood around it. I'm guessing that if they're involved, the Granite High School property would be similar, maybe at higher density.
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I like Garbett's new project at Pioneer Park a lot.
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I'm not surprised either to hear that "The Prestige" has stalled. Can Sandy support a 25 story residential high rise? No not right now, but that's not to say that they can't in 10-15 years. You can't simply build a new downtown with highrises, from scratch. If they are so determined to build a true downtown then start with little steps, they already missed the boat on how all those office towers directly north of City Hall were developed, so they now need to focus on all the undeveloped land between City Hall and Southtowne Center.

Many of these ideas I've mentioned in the past, but it's been a while and maybe some of them are new.

A: Start with two trolley/shuttles that run continuously between Sandy City Center Trax, City Center, Front Runner, and South Towne Center.
1) Trax, down Sego Lilly to State, continuing west to S Jordan Parkway, south to Front Runner, and the same route on the return. Provide a couple of stops in the city center area, and a couple of stops along S. Jordan Parkway to serve huge employers like Ultradent.
2) Trax, access to State around the Cemetery to 10200 S, south on State to the Mall Entrance by Ethan Allen, past the Food Court entrance, then up toward City Hall, then head west to SJ Pkwy and south to Front Runner. Same route in return. Again with several stops along the way.

The Trolley could be partially funded by the city, and partially funded by businesses along the route. South Towne could sponsor the trolley that comes to Southe Towne and Utlradent or other office tenants could sponsor the one that just runs from Trax to FR.


B: If Hale Center is 100% moving from WVC, make sure to secure the move to Sandy. I'd prefer a move to SoSaLa, (but looking from a Sandy pov right now), make sure to secure the new HCT.


C: Reduce parking requirements for office, retail and residential in the City Center, and require all new parking to be structured, and allow for shared parking with existing surface lots.


D: I am not sure what the current allowed uses are, but if need be change them to allow restaurants with liquor licenses, bars, and clubs in the City Center area.


E: Provide incentives for a residential developer to develop something on the west side of target. An urban design apartment/condo maybe 6-10 stories, (probably 7 with wood on pedestal construction) with at least one retail space at street level.


F: Provide incentives for the redevelopment of the south end of the Target shopping Center, where Gart Brothers/Sport Authority was, including the parking lot to the south. Redevelop that with urban style housing above some small retail spaces, and transform the current parking lot access into an actual street. An office tower on Sporty Authority or on the parking lot south could be an option as well, one residential one office.


This is just a starting point. Sandy needs to grow into the demand for more density. Zone specific corners with minimum heights and allow the demand to drive it, rather than desire and wishes. "You can wish in one hand and crap in the other, and see which one gets filled first"


I'll attempt a really crappy paint map to illustrate all of the above, except the wishing a crapping part.


I honestly feel that the Trolleys will bring additional people into existing and future retail and provide more opportunities for residential in an urban setting, but for those that want urban with out the "scary" of an actual downtown (SLC)
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 5:53 PM
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My above ramblings in picture form.

Red line -Trolley from Trax to Front Runner
Orange line -Trolley from Trax to Front Runner via South Towne Center
Black line - New dedicated streets
Yellow - Zoned 5-10 story residential.
Purple - Minimum height above 15 stories, office or residential
Blue - Minimum height above 5 stories, office or residential

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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 9:35 PM
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My above ramblings in picture form.

Red line -Trolley from Trax to Front Runner
Orange line -Trolley from Trax to Front Runner via South Towne Center
Black line - New dedicated streets
Yellow - Zoned 5-10 story residential.
Purple - Minimum height above 15 stories, office or residential
Blue - Minimum height above 5 stories, office or residential

Sandy City are planning on during a lot of those things. But their vision is just a little bit different.

http://sandy.utah.gov/fileadmin/down...nsPressKit.pdf

Check out page two that shows the layout of everything.

1.They are planning on expanding Monroe Street ( as you have in your vision ) to the Mall area.
2. Also there will be some kind of a street car that will connect both Trax and Frontrunner, only their vision will run along 10200 South and then runs up the hillside up to Trax. ( kind of like what your Orange line does )
3. I believe the City wants to have 15-ish story buildings in the area just south of City Hall. I see higher/taller buildings in their PDF planned for that area, while East Village has shorter buildings.
4. Agreed that the office park North of City Hall was an epic fail. They need to redevelop that, but that doesn't seem to be in their plans.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2015, 9:40 PM
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My above ramblings in picture form.

Red line -Trolley from Trax to Front Runner
Orange line -Trolley from Trax to Front Runner via South Towne Center
Black line - New dedicated streets
Yellow - Zoned 5-10 story residential.
Purple - Minimum height above 15 stories, office or residential
Blue - Minimum height above 5 stories, office or residential

Sandy is a city with A.D.D.

They just can't stay focused on anything "long term" long enough to see it through. They've got all these great plans and announcements and hopes, dreams and promises but at the end of the day we really never see the grand plans come together.
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Garbett also has a small subdivision not far from Granite High School, 400 East/3600 South or something. Very green/zero energy, but integrated and fits in well with the older neighborhood around it. I'm guessing that if they're involved, the Granite High School property would be similar, maybe at higher density.
That sounds great to me. If Granite High must be torn down (still have mixed feelings but at the same time, what could be done with it?) then that is as good of an option as any. Hopefully they're able to add retail along 33rd South, or at least feature street engagement. That newer complex on the corner of 33rd and 2nd East is nice, but very isolated from the street.

I still think that would be an excellent place for a good park though (not just a flat area of grass, but an actual park with landscaping and attractions), but I can understand that would likely be a big expense to take on. I'm not going to complain about more density, anyway.
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I could see Garbett converting part of Granite into some energy efficient condos. Maybe not the entire school, maybe just the main building that faces north. Then maybe develop the remainder of the parcel with new single family homes, similar to those just south of Granite.

Garbett seems to be the first builder to push the limits with Solar and other energy efficiencies so really nothing would surprise me from them. Which is why I think I like them so much.
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I'm too lazy to walk and take a picture....but The proposed 3 story residential building in Murray. Fireclay, brickgate, lions gate area. It is actually turning out to be 5 stories tall. Yep.
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Grantsville makes zoning changes in attempt to block new prison

...The commission, which must make a decision by Aug. 1, is studying five potential sites including Grantsville — two others near Eagle Mountain, one near Tooele, and one west of Salt Lake City International Airport...

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...ew-prison.html

By Katie McKellar, Deseret News

...Marshall said Grantsville does not have the infrastructure to support a correctional facility the size of the proposed state prison. He said the city would face challenges with water use because a prison at that size would require vast amounts of water, enough to limit the rural city’s valuable water resources that could be used for development.

“The demands of a correctional facility upon Grantsville would be significant, and I’m not saying impossible, but would require significant extensions and upsizing of the system's infrastructures,” Marshall said.

He said the option the Legislature is offering to the community that ends up with the prison to increase its sales tax by 0.5 percent to help with infrastructure costs would not “come close” to covering the needed expenses because of the city’s low population.

Marshall also said the Grantsville would face highway access challenges and would place a prison a fair distance away from its experienced workforce and services.

But the change in city ordinances might not be enough to stop the Prison Relocation Commission from recommending Grantsville as the new prison’s location...


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A massive golf facility is coming to Midvale

http://www.24saltlake.com/news/topgolf-midvale-utah/

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=33882023

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Golf entertainment company Topgolf International, Inc. today officially unveiled Salt Lake City as its first location planned in the state of Utah. Topgolf will begin construction on the 65,000-square-foot facility this spring; the venue is expected to open to the public in early 2016.

The facility will be located in Midvale at the northwest corner of Bingham Junction Boulevard and Jordan River Boulevard (7200 S), which is about 12 minutes southwest of downtown Salt Lake City. Topgolf is leasing 12 acres from Wadsworth Development Group as part of its 35-acre RiverWalk mixed-use development consisting of Class A office space, retail and residential housing.Topgolf is the only entertainment center of its kind, offering competitive golfing games for all ages and skill levels and advanced technology to track players’ shots. Those who just want to relax can enjoy the upscale, laid-back ambiance that boasts more than 230 high-definition flat-screen TVs and an extensive food and beverage menu.

“Salt Lake City is one of the fastest-growing communities in the United States both for job growth and for our target demographic,” said Topgolf Vice President of Real Estate Zach Shor. “This is a community that appreciates outdoor recreation, and we think residents will embrace having another option for entertainment, dining and golf. Topgolf is excited about the location we selected as it will offer fantastic visibility and access from most of Salt Lake City.”

The new three-level location will include up to 3,000 square feet of private event space and 102 climate-controlled hitting bays that can host up to six players at one time. Shor estimates that Topgolf Salt Lake City will serve approximately 450,000 visitors in its first year of operation. Nearly half of all Topgolf guests describe themselves as “non-golfers.”
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I don't golf but I would definitely check that out. Sounds interesting.
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Congratulations vista station you're just another office Park. What was originally going to be buildings up to 12 stories with parking structures is now just turning out to be a group of five story buildings with a massive parking lot. Way to underachieve there Draper city.

Update with Renderings from KSL.com

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=33958079&nid...-vista-station

Total Fail!!! This is a waste of a development right by a Frontrunner Station. No where near a TOD. How disappointing.
God I get so tired of getting my hopes up and excited over a suburban city talking big about how they want to be more urban, walkable and build high-rises only to see their plans always falling short and we end up always having to settle for some piece of shit lackluster typical office Park low-rise buildings with a sea of parking lots. Seems like Salt Lake and Murray are the only two cities that we have who truly dare to build anything taller then 12 stories.
Just don't develop that area developers, if you clowns can't do it right.
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Congratulations vista station you're just another office Park. What was originally going to be buildings up to 12 stories with parking structures is now just turning out to be a group of five story buildings with a massive parking lot. Way to underachieve there Draper city.

Update with Renderings from KSL.com

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=33958079&nid...-vista-station

Total Fail!!! This is a waste of a development right by a Frontrunner Station. No where near a TOD. How disappointing.
God I get so tired of getting my hopes up and excited over a suburban city talking big about how they want to be more urban, walkable and build high-rises only to see their plans always falling short and we end up always having to settle for some piece of shit lackluster typical office Park low-rise buildings with a sea of parking lots. Seems like Salt Lake and Murray are the only two cities that we have who truly dare to build anything taller then 12 stories.
Just don't develop that area developers, if you clowns can't do it right.
I've heard a lot of hype about this site and even took a tour of it and how it was supposed to be an awesome TOD but now it is a sea of parking. Having that much parking really defeats the purpose of a TOD!! Also it's one thing if they wanted to build many low rise buildings with an overall higher FAR but this is super spread out. It is even worse in my opinion than Thanksgiving Park in Lehi and this is directly adjacent to the station. You can give Gardner Company a call on this one and complain about it, those are definitely their buildings.
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