Hamilton City Centre | ? | 3x30 & 24 fl | Proposal

[TheRitsman]

Cllr. Kroetsch said last night that the demolition permits should be issued with the next few weeks and that it will take approximately 6 months. The developer has committed to protecting the pedestrian areas, with lighted covers. The bridge will be taken down as well by a large crane which will require the closure of York Blvd, and he said he would share when the date is so people can go down and watch.

[TheHonestMaple]

Originally Posted by TheRitsman

Cllr. Kroetsch said last night that the demolition permits should be issued with the next few weeks and that it will take approximately 6 months. The developer has committed to protecting the pedestrian areas, with lighted covers. The bridge will be taken down as well by a large crane which will require the closure of York Blvd, and he said he would share when the date is so people can go down and watch.

How soon after permitting does he expect demolition to start?

[Innsertnamehere]

that's up to the applicant, likely in short order.

[TheRitsman]

I believe he said that we could expect demolition to start soon after. Based on the way he said it, we could expect demolition work to begin in the next couple months.

[johnnyhamont]

Fun little review of In8's credibility based on their current highest-profile project. Bad news for anyone cheering for Hamilton to become Toronto.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kitchener/c...derick_condos/

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by johnnyhamont

Fun little review of In8's credibility based on their current highest-profile project. Bad news for anyone cheering for Hamilton to become Toronto.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kitchener/c...derick_condos/

Hamilton doesn't want hamilton to become toronto - that's why we live in hamilton, and NOT toronto.

[905er]

Originally Posted by Chronamut

Hamilton doesn't want hamilton to become toronto - that's why we live in hamilton, and NOT toronto.

perhaps a Toronto complex.. I see a lot of people from there assume the rest of Canada aspires to be them when in fact it's often not the case at all.

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by 905er

perhaps a Toronto complex.. I see a lot of people from there assume the rest of Canada aspires to be them when in fact it's often not the case at all.

Hmm lets see.. overpriced.. congested.. dark.. cold, windy because of all of the canyons.. hyper-liberal people who are completely full of themselves and look down on our city and always have.. people who move here and then move back to toronto claiming there is nothing to do here..

Toronto is fun to visit, but I would hate to live there.

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by Chronamut

Hmm lets see.. overpriced.. congested.. dark.. cold, windy because of all of the canyons.. hyper-liberal people who are completely full of themselves and look down on our city and always have.. people who move here and then move back to toronto claiming there is nothing to do here.

Just be aware that is basically casting the same kind of aspersions.

In my experience, it's become less a case of people looking down on Hamilton and more that they just aren't as aware of it. Newcomers to the broader region don't have the historical context, and the Toronto metro is a lot bigger than it used to be, so places like Hamilton and Oshawa may be seen as relatively less important than they were.

There may always be those who cross the Skyway and see the north end as Mordor... that may remain the case even after the Stelco lands are redeveloped and Dofasco is no longer belching coal-fed clouds from its stacks. But I think more people are venturing out beyond Toronto and finding interesting places like those around our city. This is anecdotal, but I was in Goderich for the long weekend and there were a number of families and groups that I am positive were visiting from the GTA, and some could be overheard talking about it... Hamilton is a much closer day-trip and there is plenty to do for people who don't need flashy tourist-trap-type entertainment.

[Innsertnamehere]

Yea unfortunately IN8 has put up nothing but awful dreck. Their other project over by McMaster looks absolutely terrible.

City Centre looks a bit better but still pretty poor. What we have seen so far seems like it’ll be a bit better than other projects they have done… but that’s not saying a whole lot.

[Innsertnamehere]

The Demolition Permit here still has not been issued. I wonder what is holding it up - when they closed the mall in the winter it seemed like they were intent on moving right to demolition, with a construction office set up and demolition company signage going up.

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Demolition of Hamilton City Center (shopping mall) to prepare lot for future development.

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[PaperSun]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

The Demolition Permit here still has not been issued. I wonder what is holding it up - when they closed the mall in the winter it seemed like they were intent on moving right to demolition, with a construction office set up and demolition company signage going up.

I check this one once a week if they got their permit, I really hope they didn't run into any financing problems. With no eyes on City Centre anymore its really turning into an ugly site with all the graffiti.

[ScreamingViking]

People must be trespassing into the building by now.

Hopefully it's taken down this year. But that's going to be one giant "hole" in the core until things start going up.

[Innsertnamehere]

Part of why I love Hamilton is it’s still spitting distance from a mega city like Toronto and the benefits that has while still being a standalone city in itself. Toronto makes Hamilton better, not worse.

IN8 is pretty awful in KWC and unfortunately doesn’t look like it’ll be much better here. They are focusing on their condo over by McMaster right now and that one looks completely, hilariously terrible.

City Centre looks a bit better, quite interesting on the ground level, and will likely be a net positive to the city, but I still don’t expect it to be winning architectural awards. The 1,800 units here will be a complete boon to downtown, but they won’t be pretty.

[King&James]

https://renx.ca/in8-niche-high-densi...ta-area-cities

Article on IN8, noting its Hamilton projects. Good to see they are still referencing City Centre and construction starting next year. Better get on with demo to make that deadline.

[akiraredacted]

Seriously. Went past the City Centre recently and it's certainly seen better days. All boarded up and coated in graffiti now. Wasn't demolition supposed to start in February?

[PaperSun]

Developer shut Hamilton's City Centre a year ago for 'epic' condos. That plan's on hold indefinitely

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...date-1.7056869

Cant say I didn't see this coming.

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by PaperSun

Developer shut Hamilton's City Centre a year ago for 'epic' condos. That plan's on hold indefinitely

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...date-1.7056869

Cant say I didn't see this coming.

Well, on the plus side, they did state they will be refining their design.. let's hope I'm not dead by the time they finish this project lol..

also I would have to agree with the posts - the atrium is amazing, and really nothing exists in the city like it anymore - it just lets in so much natural light - it's beautiful - it reminds me of that one building in toronto near the train station wher you walk in and its all atrium space and you have that one stone back facade that's been incorporated into it indoors - I would love to see that preserved and the rest sorta encapsulating it and building around it. Having just condos in the heart there , well it feels like a waste attached to jackson. That and I am sure the prices will be astronomical.
I fear though that without any sort of maintenance any hopes of saving it will be as remote as saving the tivoli theatre becomes year by year.

I am 100% convinced many people are sitting on these "heritage" lots so that they will eventually collapse on their own and they can build something entirely modern - the buildings in the gore, the church, the tivoli.. noone want to have to maintain old architecture it seems. Boring boxes for everyone lol.

[BCTed]

Originally Posted by Chronamut

also I would have to agree with the posts - the atrium is amazing, and really nothing exists in the city like it anymore - it just lets in so much natural light - it's beautiful - it reminds me of that one building in toronto near the train station wher you walk in and its all atrium space and you have that one stone back facade that's been incorporated into it indoors - I would love to see that preserved and the rest sorta encapsulating it and building around it. Having just condos in the heart there , well it feels like a waste attached to jackson. That and I am sure the prices will be astronomical.
I fear though that without any sort of maintenance any hopes of saving it will be as remote as saving the tivoli theatre becomes year by year.

Let's just find a way to preserve the dang mall/atrium and re-open the sucker. The plan for condos has always seemed pretty suspect and I doubt that even a significant reduction in interest rates would necessarily kickstart it back up. Even if this gets built, it seems fairly low quality. And even if it does get built and is decent quality, who cares? The city needs something more than condos in its downtown anyway... shopping, entertainment, food, commercial, a place to gather, a museum, some kind of destination, something.

[king10]

Terrible. Its going to be such an eyesore.

Sell it to Vranich.