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this has been in the works for years, hopefully they can get it done this time.

I hope that also affects construction of smaller projs, like the building of new restaurants & stores. I know the pinkberry in little Tokyo took forever to be completed because of red tape. And opening a new restaurant located in the skylofts bldg on Grand Ave is supposed to have caused heartburn for its owner cuz of endless delays. But if simplifying the permitting process won't help those type of projs, then the reform that's being reported on is only the tip of the iceberg.
     
     
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[/b]Almost 40 yrs later & we're still waiting for that deadzone to be locked up & thrown away! It was supposed to have been done 2 months ago, but I can wait. But for no more than just a few more days....wks.

I can think of countless times thru the yrs I'd drive south on Grand, north of 1st, or either west or east on 1st St, & see that parking lot sitting there & wanna throw my hands up & go


So I do find myself no longer wondering when work will begin on LA Central, not to mention parkfifth. However, I don't have any more patience for further delays on the Grand Ave proj. Get moving, ppl!!!

Neither do I, but we really can't do anything about it, can we?

To tell you the truth, i'm starting to wonder who you people work for; because you seem to get information from the developers pretty easily. Do you guys have high reputations or something?

I ask this because you guys NEVER get trashed by other forumers because you ALWAYS provide reliable info and the status of things such as Development or public transportation proposals. And because of that, you guys are able to negate anybody's verbal assaults. I want that!!



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And I wish the govt finally would get work underway on its federal court house bldg at 1st & Broadway.
Dude, Congress(if I remember correctly) isn't going to provide those funds until around 2010, I THINK.
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CurbedWire: Metro Map 2030

Wednesday, March 26, 2008, by jwilliams





LOS ANGELES - Mayor Sam and MetroRider LA link to an exciting futuristic transit map of Los Angeles circa 2030. In the future, we'll be able to take light rail or the subway to LAX and Ontario International, the Ocean, Leimert Park, Irwindale, and Whittier. Are we the only ones who think that light rail (or at least the Orange Line) to Burbank's Airport should be prioritized, too? In related news, tonight in WeHo, Metro starts its first round of meetings on the long range plan
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2008, 3:29 AM
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Congress(if I remember correctly) isn't going to provide those funds until around 2010, I THINK.

I hope you're being too pessimistic, cuz if there is ONE proj that isn't dependent on the current level of demand for new condos, new apts, new stores, new restaurants, new hotel rms, & new office space, it's the courthouse. In fact, cuz of all the trials & litigation in the LA area, there's been a growing need for more space for judges & their court rms in DT.

I hope that a recession in new construction will reduce the run up in costs of devlpt, & that will help contractors submit bids for the courthouse that won't exceed the maximum budget, as what's happened previously.
     
     
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However, although I can hardly wait to see that day, & the time when other bldgs like LA Live's hotel are topped off, because of all the uncertainty with the economy right now, I also find myself saying: slow down, ppl! Slow down, concerto! Slow down, Muerelo! As for the Medallion, that appears to be moving slowly enough.
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I find myself saying the same thing. As a skyscraper/urban enthusiast, what will I do when all the buildings have been completed. I really hope the Grand doesn't let me down. or I'll become DAODCB. (Down And Out DCB).

I went to see Margaret Cho at the Orpheum this last Saturday. It was the first time I walked on Broadway after dark. I believe it was a sold out, so the street was full of people around the theater. I walked by the Chapman, and it is beautifully restored. Very clean, the building was lit up, the sidewalks were lit up, and the store fronts use the roll down metal bars so you can still see inside. The Tower Theater sign was lit up, although nothing appeared to be going on. While I can see a huge improvement from one of my past trips driving down the street at night, there is still a way to go. The solid metal doors on the stores are the biggest draw back, and probably the easiest fix. They just say "this street is closed, go home".
     
     
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originally posted by JDRCRASH;3442250]To tell you the truth, i'm starting to wonder who you people work for; because you seem to get information from the developers pretty easily. Do you guys have high reputations or something?

I ask this because you guys NEVER get trashed by other forumers because you ALWAYS provide reliable info and the status of things such as Development or public transportation proposals. And because of that, you guys are able to negate anybody's verbal assaults. I want that!!


We have high reputations and we signed up for SSP Premium. Sure it's a few more dollars, but it checks your facts before you post so you don't make any mistakes.


Just kidding. We've all taken our turn getting "trashed" But your receiving more "verbal assaults" because you post a lot, and I mean A Lot. Sometimes no post is best. See this:

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Dude, Congress(if I remember correctly) isn't going to provide those funds until around 2010, I THINK

This is a case of giving a fact. If you KNOW something, let us know. But if you are not sure "you remember correctly" or " think its true", best not to post it. It only opens you up to "getting trashed by other forumers".
     
     
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I don't understand why they wouldn't extend the Green line to the Norwalk Metrolink station. I also feel the lack of rail between LAX and Santa Monica would be a missed opportunity. I like the inclusion of CAHSR
     
     
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I agree. Also a North/South Line from Hollywood to Expo/Crenshaw should also be considered. As well as a subway under the 405 from Sepulveda to LAX.
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Is that map based off the MTAs recently released long-range plan? IIRC they are prioritizing the Crenshaw line over a Vermont line which I think is considered for light rail or even worse, busway. Doesn't the current bus route along Vermont get the highest ridership next to the 720 route along Wilshire? It would be great to have heavy rail connect the green and red lines via Vermont.

Also whats with the eastside goldline extension terminating at whittier/norwalk? There's absolutely nothing there! I would rather have that line terminate at Philadelphia/Greenleaf in uptown whittier and hope to spur some TOD there. Uptown whittier is zoned for dense use and its already a pleasantly walkable neighborhood. An undergroudn station there would be cool.

One more thing, it would be nice to see the gap between Hollywood/Highland and Beverly Hills be prioritized as well, with the red line continuing along SaMo blvd through WeHo where they are VERY welcoming of mass transit.

And that's all without mentioning the crucial 405 line!
     
     
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As for the transit map, I wish Orange County would stop being a baby and let us work with them to get more of our light-rail into Santa Ana and Anaheim.
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L.A. Live Ritz-Carlton/Marriot Hotel U/C

Hotel tower steel frame racing skyward

by Stephen Friday on March 25, 2008

Near the end of February, we took a look at LA Live’s 54-story Convention Center Hotel as the metal skeleton made its way out of the ground.

Shortly thereafter, a spokesmen for Gensler (the project’s architect) explained that construction is progressing over one floor per week, indicating all 54 stories will be in place by the end of this year.

He wasn’t kidding.

Just over four weeks later, the structure has already risen to its 7th floor, becoming a substantial presence on Olympic Boulevard and giving us a clear picture of how the tower will integrate into the larger LA Live development.

By fall when the majority of restaurants and other venues are expected to open in the Club Nokia building, the tower will already be making an impact on the Downtown skyline, being an estimated 40 levels high by that time.

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A recent article/commentary in the Opinion section of the Tuesday's L.A. Times brought into the light the question of MOCA's future in the context of "The Grand". I've been wondering about it for a long time myself -- why haven't there been any plans for MOCA's expansion?

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Don't forget MOCA
The museum needs to expand, but that isn't part of the Grand Avenue plan.


By Tyler Green
March 25, 2008

The redevelopment of downtown L.A.'s Grand Avenue is finally set to begin next month, but so far no one has brought up one of the project's glaring flaws: The developers mention the Museum of Contemporary Art in their marketing materials, but they don't treat it as an asset to be maximized. Any plan for redeveloping Grand Avenue should include expanding MOCA. No American contemporary art museum is more in need of additional gallery space, and none is better positioned to benefit from the kindness of strangers. And there are reasons why the Grand Avenue team should be interested in MOCA too.

Unfortunately, as Bunker Hill is set to grow up all around the museum, MOCA is stuck with the status quo: the same building and gallery space it has had since 1986. The failure of the city, the county, developers, philanthropists and MOCA's board to make sure that the museum grows with its neighborhood is unfortunate.

First, it's important to understand why MOCA deserves to expand. It is America's top museum of contemporary art, the period that runs from roughly 1965 forward. No museum creates better or more scholarly contemporary exhibitions. MOCA also has a strong permanent collection, but because of the limited gallery space, it's rarely on view.

If MOCA had more than 40,000 square feet of exhibition space like Minneapolis' Walker Art Center or 60,000 square feet like Washington's Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden, it could not only present great shows, it could show off its world-class collection. MOCA's Grand Avenue outpost has just 24,500 square feet of gallery space. (Its temporary exhibition outpost in Little Tokyo, the Geffen Contemporary, isn't climate-controlled, a requirement for collection installations.)

An expanded MOCA ought to appeal to everyone involved. What the city, county and developers need are reasons for people to visit MOCA's stretch of downtown and to commit to living in a new billion-dollar development. (So far, the plan seems to be to place something like the Grove across from Disney Hall and hope that will attract "upscale" visitors. Yawn.)

The best reason to visit MOCA's neighborhood is MOCA. Currently, about 1,000 people visit MOCA each day, a figure that includes those who visit the museum's blockbuster exhibitions at the Geffen. MOCA's better-developed peers, though, do bigger numbers: The Walker and the Hirshhorn both draw more than 2,000 visitors a day. A symbiotic relationship between an expanded, destination museum and a redeveloped Grand Avenue would attract visitors to both. So why hasn't anyone done anything about it?

MOCA itself is partly to blame. In recent years, MOCA has had so much trouble meeting its expenses that it has begun to spend its endowment principal, a major nonprofit no-no. At its peak, MOCA's endowment was worth $37 million; it's down to $20 million. By comparison, the UC Berkeley Art Museum, which is a good museum but not quite in MOCA's league, has built its endowment from $21 million to $61 million in the last four years.

It's hard to think about growing when you're in deficit spending, and MOCA's trustees haven't figured a way to reverse course. Often, MOCA trustees have outgrown MOCA and have left to sit on the boards of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art or the Hammer Museum, two institutions that aspire to the contemporary programming that MOCA already offers.

All of that brings us to Eli Broad, a MOCA founding trustee who long ago migrated to the LACMA board. As luck would have it, Broad is the co-chairman of the Grand Avenue Committee, the civic pooh-bahs pushing this latest downtown redevelopment scheme. Even though Broad left MOCA years ago, it's natural that civic leaders and arts-minded potential donors look to him for leadership regarding MOCA's future. Alas, there is no evidence that a MOCA expansion is even on Broad's radar.

Worse, MOCA has managed to become completely shut out from the process going on around it. The Grand Avenue Committee's new chairman, developer Nelson Rising, sits on the Hammer's board. So, oddly, MOCA has no representation on the body that is determining the future of its neighborhood, but its crosstown peers do.

It is still possible for MOCA to get into the mix. The Grand Avenue Committee has time to realize that an expanded MOCA would be a boon to its project; it would be a stable, cost-effective, long-term way of attracting both residents and other visitors. Art collecting businessmen-philanthropists such as Broad and Rising should understand what they're missing: A chance to enhance their personal legacies, but more important, an opportunity to further Los Angeles as the capital of contemporary art.

A third party with the right connections could even step into the role of cultural protagonist. The most likely candidate is the J. Paul Getty Trust, whose president and chief executive, James N. Wood, worked with MOCA Director Jeremy Strick when both were at the Art Institute of Chicago.

But somebody better think of MOCA -- and soon.

Tyler Green writes and edits Modern Art Notes, a blog about art at artsjournal.com/man.
     
     
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If MOCA wants to expand they can do it on their own, or ask for donations.

Not every cultural venue has to be part of some grand scheme to improves itself!
     
     
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The MOCA has the huge Geffin Contemporary Annex down in Little Tokyo.
There's a greater opportunity for expansion at that location than the Grand Ave building.
Plus the interior space in that building is just amazing.
     
     
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A recent article/commentary in the Opinion section of the Tuesday's L.A. Times brought into the light the question of MOCA's future in the context of "The Grand". I've been wondering about it for a long time myself -- why haven't there been any plans for MOCA's expansion?
Wouldn't that drive up the cost for the overall project?
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9th and Grand?


From Curbed: (BTW, I haven't heard of this project; does it have a name?)


Developer Chetrit: Hotel Still Planned For Weedy 9th And Grand Parcel

Thursday, March 27, 2008, by Dakota

Just a dirt lot a few months ago, there are now weeds higher than your head at the corner of 9th and Grand, the former haunt of old friend Downtown Dog, the German Shepard guard dog who protected the property last summer. So what's happening to this corner and the adjoining building? A source who works at New York-based developer Chetrit tells us: "We're planning a hotel there. It'll break ground in six to eight months." For real? Or are you totally bullshitting us, Chetrit source?

The Chetrit employee, who asked to remain anonymous, said they hadn't decided which hotel would go in, but did say that the company intended to go forward with a hotel. Readers will remember that this was the site for the planned and then abandoned Gansevoort Hotel. And to our Chetrit guy's credit, last May the Gavensvoort people had previously told us some other hotel might go into the space. Their exact statement: "The Chetrit Group will develop the 9th Street/Grand Avenue project in Los Angeles under a different brand name." Meanwhile, the Downtown Dog--or any dog--hasn't been spotted on the site in many months. But is a hotel going to be breaking ground in six to eight months?
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Any updates with LA Central? I forgot when it's supposed to break ground.
     
     
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From Curbed: (BTW, I haven't heard of this project; does it have a name?)
JDR, this is why people sometimes give you a hard time. The answer to your question is in your post.

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The project doesn't currently have a name because (once again, from within your own post)...

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