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Old Posted Aug 5, 2020, 9:24 AM
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to 'dynamize' the neighborhood, perhaps.....

The existing property looks rather austere and, frankly, mournful. The immediate streetscape doesn't look to smart either, excuse me anyone living in a house there and reading this.
This project seems architecturally outspoken, and will perhaps inject some style and design there, along with more people, life, movement, and more neighborhood services.
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Old Posted Aug 5, 2020, 5:07 PM
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Demolition doesn't necessarily mean construction will start soon after. The whalley district development had a demolition over a year ago but the property has just sat empty ever since.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2020, 4:18 PM
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More clearing of the site... demolition of the housing project on the north end of the site set to happen this week. Perhaps construction will soon follow?

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5701625
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Demolition is scheduled to begin this week on 46 temporary modular homes, known as Nickerson Place, in Surrey's Whalley neighbourhood.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2020, 3:25 PM
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More clearing of the site... demolition of the housing project on the north end of the site set to happen this week. Perhaps construction will soon follow?

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5701625
No way construction starts until they pre-sell units. The new presentation centre is nearly complete. I imagine sales start next year sometime with construction starting next summer at the earliest?
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2020, 7:06 PM
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They are nowhere near construction. Right now they're working on project detailing, and so much needs to be accepted yet. The presentation centre is still under construction.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2020, 7:50 PM
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They are nowhere near construction. Right now they're working on project detailing, and so much needs to be accepted yet. The presentation centre is still under construction.
And no developer wants modular housing and homeless roaming around their presentation centre.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2020, 7:56 PM
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There is a lot of work going on around and on the site.

Yesterday they were doing test holes where the Brick building once was (geotechnical work). They've now closed off the parking area completely with fencing. The modular homes are being dismantled.

I think they might start with the road realignment work sooner rather than later too.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2020, 11:59 PM
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I was shocked to see all those wood piles in the ground under that former Brick building. Any ideas why they were needed at the time?
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2020, 6:23 PM
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Has there been any progress on the site since the brick demolition a couple months ago?
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2020, 9:10 PM
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The presentation centre is coming along and the debris has been removed
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 7:26 AM
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The presentation centre is coming along and the debris has been removed
How is work going on the presentation centre? Any predictions on its completion date?
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2020, 7:34 AM
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The presentation centre is looking good! It has a parking lot and seems to be not too far off. I'll try to remember to get a photo some time
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2020, 1:09 AM
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Found an application for a FAR change to 9.0 for the site the presentation centre is on. As per the Brightside planning report, this will be about a 700sq m building, indicating a 40-45 story tower by my quick calculations.

Also, does Bosa own the TD property? The photo shows some future plans for towers there too.

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Develo...ar=20&seq=0178
https://www.surrey.ca/sites/default/...18-0350-00.pdf

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Old Posted Nov 4, 2020, 9:40 AM
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Found an application for a FAR change to 9.0 for the site the presentation centre is on. As per the Brightside planning report, this will be about a 700sq m building, indicating a 40-45 story tower by my quick calculations.

Also, does Bosa own the TD property? The photo shows some future plans for towers there too.

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Develo...ar=20&seq=0178
https://www.surrey.ca/sites/default/...18-0350-00.pdf
Nice find.

Bosa does own the TD plot of land as well from what I remember. We were discussing it in another thread earlier this year. I have a feeling we might see some office towers there at some point.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2020, 8:23 AM
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9.0 FAR about time. If Surrey wants to be a legit downtown core, it needs to get over this 5/6 FAR crap. There aren't any legit downtowns that don't push 9-15 FAR in the core.
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9.0 FAR about time. If Surrey wants to be a legit downtown core, it needs to get over this 5/6 FAR crap. There aren't any legit downtowns that don't push 9-15 FAR in the core.
This seemed to be a huge issue when looking over the 2017 city centre plan. The planned FAR across much of the area was way too low if the city wants a true downtown.

They're in the process of updating it so hope to see more density planned for the entire city centre (especially in the core/CBD area).
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(posted to wrong thread)

Last edited by Equinox71; Apr 28, 2021 at 3:28 PM. Reason: sorry - wrong thread
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2021, 5:03 PM
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This seemed to be a huge issue when looking over the 2017 city centre plan. The planned FAR across much of the area was way too low if the city wants a true downtown.

They're in the process of updating it so hope to see more density planned for the entire city centre (especially in the core/CBD area).
I asked the question actually and was basically told, no not really. Their response was that the FAR can be higher it just requires developers to contribute more money, which I think is the point I was trying to make that is wrong.

I understand going "Yah sure FAR 9 or 10 is ok, but you need to give us a million more dollars" to try and get more money out of developers, but it just discourages that and encourages the towers in a park development we tend to see. Also to me can make it challenging from an economical perspective to do mixed use or do things in larger phases.

When you nickel and dime developers, they build bare minimum and do it over 900 phases and 20 years.

We'll see I guess. I just know when you look at the average FAR in many major downtowns, it is often 15+.
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I just know when you look at the average FAR in many major downtowns, it is often 15+.
Any examples you can share? There are a few examples in Downtown Vancouver that exceed 15 FSR (FAR), but they're rare (and they each usually provide tens of millions of dollars in offered benefits). I'm not aware of any others in Metro Vancouver; very few projects get to 10 FSR.
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Any examples you can share? There are a few examples in Downtown Vancouver that exceed 15 FSR (FAR), but they're rare (and they each usually provide tens of millions of dollars in offered benefits). I'm not aware of any others in Metro Vancouver; very few projects get to 10 FSR.
Really? I feel like I’ve seen a number of them especially in Toronto. Wasn’t one of the office proposals in Vancouver close to 20?
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