[Burnaby] The Amazing Brentwood | 15 Towers | 186m | 56 flrs | U/C & Proposed

[Geof]

Originally Posted by HelloKitty

TAB should open a grocery on the TAB side or Skytrain station side of Willingdon/Lougheed.

This. I live in Brentwood Park. The walk to Save On is about 25 minutes return. I really miss Kin's Farm Market.

For that matter, are we going to get the pedestrian/bike bridge over the tracks at the foot of Alpha? I thought that was supposed to be part of one of the developments down there. (Or was it for Beta?) With the insanity of the Costco parking lot, I might actually use it when I only need a few things.

In general, I have no interest in high-end fashion, but a variety of other shops and services would be most welcome.

[SpongeG]

It was a given McDonalds would be in there, they closed the one there that was always busy. The plaza area is better suited to food and cafes. The shops are good as they seem to be situated, they are going to have over 200 stores so we have only seen a list of a few. and the plan was for the high end brands to be added into Phase 2.

As for a grocery store what about Loblaws City Market, its quite upscale looking but priced reasonably/cheaply.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by NewfBC

Marine Gateway not only has one RBC branch - in the building on NE corner of Marine /Cambie, it now has a second location in Marine Gateway development, 2nd level next to the cinema. Bizarre!

Ron.

Not really bizarre considering they have shrunk there Oakridge offices to a small outpost for the duration of the renovation and redevelopment of the mall so I imagine a lot of the people that they use to serve at Oakridge are being served at Marine Gateway/ NE corner of Cambie and Marine Dr.. 5 years is a long time. Davids Tea is also closing as of today at Oakridge and will not reopen until potentially after the redevelopment in 5 years. I agree also with a few other people on the thread lets not be so overly specific with retailers as they are going to bring a lot of retailers and a mix of retail types is ideal.

[VarBreStr18]

Originally Posted by NetMapel

Seems awfully early to be speaking ill of the potential retailers that could be coming to this mall, no? We only know a handful and some are more luxurious than the others. People were worried about this mall for being too upscale and now some are complaining that a McDonald's is confirmed to be at the space right by the skytrain station? A spot like that with connection to skytrain is most definitely likely to be a convenience-type of retailer... a fast food and drinks store, bank or something along those line. Maybe there will be a RBC here and maybe not. We simply don't know the full list of retailers yet... Seems nitpicking to me, that's all.

Logically RBC usually have a prime location , just like Cambie/Broadway, Cambie/Marine Drive, Broadway/Granville, Willindon/Hastings. RBC is the only bank missing in this all important location.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by jamieson

THIS!

People need to shut up and stop complaining. It is way too early to voice your armchair opinions.

You sound just like the complaining armchair guy.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

And they still haven't decided if they are going to keep or demolish the old mall? I thought he plan was always to keep it

Originally Posted by cairnstone

most likely a fall out of lenders being tighter with the money do to a softening of the market or they figure there is not enough demand from high street stores willing to pay the bucks for a new mall. Alot of brand are not seeing the big dollar returns from Canadian operations once they figure out the exchange etc.

The original plans were to demo each end of the old mall and keep the middle.
But it appears that they may be rethinking even keeping the middle and demolishing it, too. That would disrupt business at the mall more than just having each end closed in sequence.

Originally Posted by Tangeray

I feel like the big restaurant space at the northeast corner of the plaza attached to T2 will be an asian cuisine restaurant.

That's the 3 storey Cactus Club.

Originally Posted by VarBreStr18

What ? I was hoping it will be Royal Bank. The biggest bank in Canada should have a presence in this major intersection. Marine Gateway which being a relative new hub has a Royal Bank. Sooooooo disappointing.

I expect there will be more than one bank at the mall.
Wasn't there a BMO before? It should be returning unless it relocated.

[VarBreStr18]

Originally Posted by jamieson

THIS!

People need to shut up and stop complaining. It is way too early to voice your armchair opinions.

This is not complaining , just a discussion. Trying to reason the rationale of selecting retailers. The Sears store would have been a perfect location for a full size grocery store, yet it becomes a Tesla. How often does shopping mall include car dealership? Now that the lease is signed which means that location will not be freed up for a number of years. Just because a merchant wants in does not necessarily mean they should be included. It has to meet the criteria of a livable community. In order for the project to succeed , there need to be elements to attract future buyers. Do you think buyers will be jumping up and down because there is an upscale car dealership in the mall? On the other hand if phase one already has grocery store; upscale restaurants for people to actually wine and dine. This would attract future buyers. Again not arguing , just a discussion.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by VarBreStr18

This is not complaining , just a discussion. Trying to reason the rationale of selecting retailers. The Sears store would have been a perfect location for a full size grocery store, yet it becomes a Tesla. How often does shopping mall include car dealership? Now that the lease is signed which means that location will not be freed up for a number of years. Just because a merchant wants in does not necessarily mean they should be included. It has to meet the criteria of a livable community. In order for the project to succeed , there need to be elements to attract future buyers. Do you think buyers will be jumping up and down because there is an upscale car dealership in the mall? On the other hand if phase one already has grocery store; upscale restaurants for people to actually wine and dine. This would attract future buyers. Again not arguing , just a discussion.

The Sears building is slated to be demolished in Phase 3 and the mall extended through that area.
It's likely that a grocery store would not accept a short term lease or a lease with a demolition clause.
The Tesla is likely a short term / easily relocatable tenant (even if that phase is 5 years away).
As for the first phase of the redevelopment, Shape probably did not want a grocery store in a prominent location and/or those prominent locations carried higher rental rates than a grocery store would pay.

[Geof]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The original plans were to demo each end of the old mall and keep the middle. But it appears that they may be rethinking even keeping the middle and demolishing it, too. That would disrupt business at the mall more than just having each end closed in sequence.

As per Jane Jacobs, I don't think that would be a good thing. If all the spaces are new, they will all charge high rents. Older, more affordable space in the old mall is more likely to attract a diversity of businesses that may not be able to afford high rents.

[officedweller]

Even if they kept the old spaces, they'd probably upgrade the older part of the mall and charge higher rents, but agreed that their overhead would still be lower with retention versus replacement, providing some flexibility.

[logan5]

Originally Posted by Geof

As per Jane Jacobs, I don't think that would be a good thing. If all the spaces are new, they will all charge high rents. Older, more affordable space in the old mall is more likely to attract a diversity of businesses that may not be able to afford high rents.

Fine by me. Let these mega developments have the chain stores. Maybe that keep rents down in other neighbourhoods.

[cairnstone]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Even if they kept the old spaces, they'd probably upgrade the older part of the mall and charge higher rents, but agreed that their overhead would still be lower with retention versus replacement, providing some flexibility.

If they do like Guildford it will be fresh tiles and paint. there was not really any change to the existing mall. And most of it was empty for a few years after. with big chunks of un rented space boarded up to make it look like there was something there

[officedweller]

The unknown aspect is whether part of the exiting mall becomes part of a "luxury wing" anchored by a new high end department store (ie north end of mall).

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by cairnstone

If they do like Guildford it will be fresh tiles and paint. there was not really any change to the existing mall. And most of it was empty for a few years after. with big chunks of un rented space boarded up to make it look like there was something there

the main courtyard redo was pretty nice, I am amazed that those big centre court areas sat empty so long, nice to see Muji took most all of what was empty, and Uniqlo too, Japan to the rescue

Has the Old Navy ever been renovated? its like shopping in the 90s when you go in there

[SpongeG]

The Sporting Life has job postings for all kinds of positions from cashiers, managers, associates and merchandisers for their Brentwood location. If they are already hiring for cashiers they must be one of the first to be opening, possibly in the fall?

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The unknown aspect is whether part of the exiting mall becomes part of a "luxury wing" anchored by a new high end department store (ie north end of mall).

this is how they describe the different areas on their leasing site

THE
PLAZA:
Where The Amazing Brentwood comes to life. A one-acre signature plaza with a grand fountain and a full line-up of concerts and celebrations. The perimeter will be lined with popular fashion, restaurants and entertainment anchors, all facing the action and catching the energy. Day to night, season to season, The Plaza will be Metro Vancouver’s signature venue for excitement and experience.

THE
MEWS:
An eclectic selection of designer boutiques and one-of-a-kind shops. The East and West Mews will be the enclaves where shoppers explore new trends and exclusive collections. Everything from the storefronts and window displays to the neighbourhood style eateries will be infused with art and design. The Mews will be carefully crafted to satisfy the most discerning tastes in the city.

BRENTWOOD
INTERIOR:
The shopping centre will be reimagined for an elevated indoor shopping experience. This will be the epicentre of luxury and style. Signature storefronts will line the hallways, creating an upscale backdrop for socializing, people watching and more. With a high end department store and a collection of boutiques, this will be a true fashion destination.

http://shapeproperties.com/leasing/#/brentwood/overview

[jamieson]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

The Sporting Life has job postings for all kinds of positions from cashiers, managers, associates and merchandisers for their Brentwood location. If they are already hiring for cashiers they must be one of the first to be opening, possibly in the fall?

They announced Fall 2019 last year

[MetroYVR]

According to page 3 of this leasing brochure, Nightingale Restaurant is also supposed to open at TAB.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by MetroYVR

According to page 3 of this leasing brochure, Nightingale Restaurant is also supposed to open at TAB.

Now that's high-end: very fitting.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

this is how they describe the different areas on their leasing site



http://shapeproperties.com/leasing/#/brentwood/overview

And here we have people expecting a Dollarama.