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Old Posted Jun 26, 2014, 6:18 PM
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IIRC, don't quote me on this but, I think it's RedPeak doing this one? I wish I could plug a USB cable into my brain sometimes and download it. So cluttered.

Also found this on Davis Partnership for 9th and Colorado:


http://davispartnership.com/projects/9th-and-colorado/
Belmar 2.0
     
     
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Belmar 2.0
It looks like they did this work for Oliver McMillan...so Im guessing this is an old concept. But definitely Belmar-ish
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2014, 6:40 PM
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And a small retail space (2,800 sf) at the corner - if I am reading the plans correctly.
What is the link for accessing plans if you know the permit numbers? Thanks.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2014, 7:07 PM
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What is the link for accessing plans if you know the permit numbers? Thanks.
https://www.denvergov.org/developmentser...ngReviewStatus/tabid/437372/Default.aspx
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2014, 8:11 PM
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Belmar 2.0

I think the more that can be saved from the Med Centers days the better.

To create "instant history" I would think you would need some real history to provide textural variation and a pleasant break from the "meat and potatoes" 4 and 5 story stick walls with surface variations that must be built to meet the bills.

Keep what you can!

The Belmar concept is being put upon an older, distance separated multistory fabric. Unlike Belmar, there appear to close in streets (a block of so from spine) that are purely residential. I truly hope this is true as a few quiet, non-commercial streets tone down the noise of 1st floor retailers, diagonal parking, and, 3 or 4 stories of stick wall apartments.

IMO, if I had money on the table, I reduce entry and exit to 4 intersections. The place needs to be a bother driving THROUGH, which is the best protection, IMO, for pedestrian patrons and a bit of peace of mind for apartment dwellers.

(Of course fire truck clearances and other requirements would be used.)
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2014, 12:12 AM
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Also found this on Davis Partnership for 9th and Colorado:
Overall, not really horrible, but it could be a lot better if they found a way to get in at least one building with stories in the double digits.......

     
     
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Overall, not really horrible, but it could be a lot better if they found a way to get in at least one building with stories in the double digits.......

I dont believe there will be any buildings in the double digits here. Yeh and again that plan is not current.
     
     
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Unfortunately, that said backhoe is now gone. However, there are several port-o-potties on site. LOL. In all seriousness I think the backhoe might have been moved over to the Balfour site. I can see them doing some hefty ground work within the courtyard today.



Dang. Your logic is sound though, probably for Balfour. Well let's hope PMRG eventually breaks ground on it, this is one I would really like to see go up. Have we seen this rendering yet?


http://www.pmrg.com/development/multi-family-development/multi-family-gallery/riverfront-park/
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Dang. Your logic is sound though, probably for Balfour. Well let's hope PMRG eventually breaks ground on it, this is one I would really like to see go up. Have we seen this rendering yet?


http://www.pmrg.com/development/multi-family-development/multi-family-gallery/riverfront-park/
How nice! A highrise out in the country.
     
     
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LOL!

The rendering with it's cute little pedestrian bridge over I-25 in the distance, the tiny Sports Authority Stadium to it's immediate left, and the Elitch's tower, combined with the perspective from the cute creek remind me of the very high quality (LOL) renderings one might see in Pravda in the Soviet Days.

(Come on people, get real.)

Oh yes, what a cute little RTD bus and itty bitty cars!
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LOL!

The rendering with it's cute little pedestrian bridge over I-25 in the distance, the tiny Sports Authority Stadium to it's immediate left, and the Elitch's tower, combined with the perspective from the cute creek remind me of the very high quality (LOL) renderings one might see in Pravda in the Soviet Days.

(Come on people, get real.)
Ummmm, that's Speer Blvd in the distance.
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They completely cut out confluence park. Isn't the thing named confluence?!?!?!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2014, 4:28 PM
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I nominate... Me?
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2014, 6:00 PM
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Ummmm, that's Speer Blvd in the distance.
I stand corrected. Yup, it is. So the cute little road in Front is 15th. Need to get Ryan to duplicate the background in a shot. It is difficult to get the Speer viaduct to move north of the Elitch tower doing the google ground level thing. Looks like the background, in part, was pieced together from https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hampto...76c789662b43633:0xa5377c871b971e36?hl=en The moutains in the background match.

Regardless, considering the available tools, a shoddy piece of work.
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2014, 7:58 PM
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There is a small article in this weeks Colorado Real Estate Journal about Two Tabor Center. Callahan Capital Partners is seriously considering building it, but they have not yet made the decision to pull the trigger.

But, good to know it is not still mothballed.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2014, 10:16 PM
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I stand corrected. Yup, it is. So the cute little road in Front is 15th. Need to get Ryan to duplicate the background in a shot. It is difficult to get the Speer viaduct to move north of the Elitch tower doing the google ground level thing. Looks like the background, in part, was pieced together from https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hampto...76c789662b43633:0xa5377c871b971e36?hl=en The moutains in the background match.

Regardless, considering the available tools, a shoddy piece of work.
As someone who has produced these kind of renders before and will no doubt produce more in the future I always find these kind of comments hilarious.

This may not be the universal truth across all architecture offices and clientele but speaking from my own experience a lot of these renders are produced rather quickly usually on short notice. The clients usually opt not to pay for the added costs of professional rendering services unless they intend to use the images foir marketing. Consequently the job of producing renders is often handed to the guy with the lowest billing rate, least other responsibilities, and most computer skills, in other words a recent college grad. The goal is to show the building, you know that thing that the architect is actually responsible for. Streets, cars, trees, people etc are somewhat periphery to that goal and are really only there to serve as basic grounding so that the building is not a floating object in space.

These renders do sometimes make their way to a public forum where the scrutiny falls on these objects. It is a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. "Why are there ghost people?" So you use real people and the question becomes "Why do the people not represent the exact socio/racial/economic class that I(not the client, BTW) think they should?"

Same with cars, try as I might there are not a lot of stock models of beater '93 Toyota Corolla's floating about. What ends up in the renders are the kinds of cars that people care enough about to spend time modeling, you know nice ones.

Buses and trees and foreground buildings tend to block the view of the building that you are trying to show the client, so they often get removed, minimized or ghosted out.

In the end though this probably comes down to architects as a profession doing a poor job of communicating to the public what it is that they actually do. Design, yes, but also, administration, project management, coordinator of all of the professional services(engineers, landscape, interiors, contractors, clients) required to produce a builkding, etc. In other words architects are very adept at Photoshop, but it is not really our job.

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That's quite a nice rendering. I don't know what your problem is, wizzy.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2014, 2:24 AM
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It reeks or wealth. The establishment. The illuminati. It's just not very Fred Flintstone, which is how Wizened rolls.
     
     
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We haven't talked much about 1401 Lawrence. I heard this week that an RFP is out for contractors. Rds, any new info on this one? Wouldn't it be awesome to have this one and 1144 15th both rising at the same time?
     
     
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It reeks or wealth. The establishment. The illuminati. It's just not very Fred Flintstone, which is how Wizened rolls.
I was gonna say he needed to sip some Dom P and eat up some caviar or something.
     
     
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