Manitoba Highways - Page 151

bodaggin · #**3001** Posted **May 27, 2025, 6:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

Federal dollars for TCH intersection improvements?

Not that.

Monitor Stroadz in 45min. Announcing there only. It's big.

Biff · #**3002** Posted **May 30, 2025, 3:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

Federal dollars for TCH intersection improvements?

I was really hoping for this.

FactaNV · #**3003** Posted **May 30, 2025, 3:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I was really hoping for this.

You will take your SSP ripoff and you will like it!

drew · #**3004** Posted **May 30, 2025, 4:51 PM**

So the "big announcement" was just a link to a different forum..?

neutroniks · #**3005** Posted **May 30, 2025, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

So the "big announcement" was just a link to a different forum..?

He's been beefing with multiple people in the political threads.

VANRIDERFAN · #**3006** Posted **Jul 7, 2025, 1:34 PM**

https://discoverwestman.com/articles...erdue-overpass

Do the locals have any "cards" when it comes to the province?

The amount of heavy truck traffic crossing the TCH (hogs, potatoes, cattle and grain) at PTH 5 should make an overpass a no brainer but it seems this province is scared of overpasses outside of the perimeter.

WildCake · #**3007** Posted **Jul 7, 2025, 2:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

https://discoverwestman.com/articles...erdue-overpass

Do the locals have any "cards" when it comes to the province?

The amount of heavy truck traffic crossing the TCH (hogs, potatoes, cattle and grain) at PTH 5 should make an overpass a no brainer but it seems this province is scared of overpasses outside of the perimeter.

Probably not. The province and WSP seem set on the RCUT, the locals are voicing the wrong complaints like it being unsafe when statistically RCUTs make intersections safer. The data is against them, so it makes their gripes less worthy of consideration.

Kind of like urban NIMBYs complaining about lost parking on their street when the street parking is not theirs to own.

They should voice that the intersection should be done right the first time, question why WSP came up with 100 million for a basic diamond interchange when they should be 30-40 million, and even if it is 100 million, why spend 20 million on an interim solution when on a provincial-scale, going up to 100 million should be feasible.

Authentic_City · #**3008** Posted **Jul 7, 2025, 2:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

https://discoverwestman.com/articles...erdue-overpass

Do the locals have any "cards" when it comes to the province?

The amount of heavy truck traffic crossing the TCH (hogs, potatoes, cattle and grain) at PTH 5 should make an overpass a no brainer but it seems this province is scared of overpasses outside of the perimeter.

Well, it's not like we are building tons of overpasses inside the perimeter either. I think this province is cash poor, and highway overpasses are just another thing to save a few nickels on.

With all the talk of nation building infrastructure projects and interprovincial trade, the trans-Canada highway seems like a no brainer for federal funding.

optimusREIM · #**3009** Posted **Jul 7, 2025, 3:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Authentic_City

Well, it's not like we are building tons of overpasses inside the perimeter either. I think this province is cash poor, and highway overpasses are just another thing to save a few nickels on.

With all the talk of nation building infrastructure projects and interprovincial trade, the trans-Canada highway seems like a no brainer for federal funding.

We’re too over leveraged on health care. I mean, if we wanna be serious about how things actually work, there’s always money, it’s a matter of priorities. We borrow many billions to send away to overseas stuff, why not borrow many billions to create a better infrastructure system for integrating the national economy?

Authentic_City · #**3010** Posted **Jul 7, 2025, 3:05 PM**

^exactly. A modernized, upgraded trans-Canada highway is a really basic way of promoting internal trade and growth. And there are projects that could begin right away and put lots of people to work. But I guess new energy corridors are sexier.

FactaNV · #**3011** Posted **Jul 7, 2025, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Authentic_City

^exactly. A modernized, upgraded trans-Canada highway is a really basic way of promoting internal trade and growth. And there are projects that could begin right away and put lots of people to work. But I guess new energy corridors are sexier.

New energy corridors will make a shit ton of money that an upgraded road won't. Build the corridors first and we'll have an expanded tax base for the road.

Authentic_City · #**3012** Posted **Jul 7, 2025, 8:03 PM**

^true, shipping oil and gas to tidewater will make more money, but if we wait until after the new energy corridors are built, we'll be waiting a very long time to upgrade our national highway system. Can't we do both?

Winnipeg Grump · #**3013** Posted **Jul 9, 2025, 8:21 PM**

No RCUT at the Carberry intersection.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/br...a-intersection

bryan_ca · #**3014** Posted **Jul 10, 2025, 12:56 AM**

Similar issue in Max, North Dakota at US 83 (think TCH with a huuuuge median) and ND 23 (think 5 hwy) here - https://maps.app.goo.gl/gjYciBXdnYiyZCCZ7

Article here - https://www.minotdailynews.com/news/...-alternatives/

They say the interchange option will cost $40 million USD ($55M CAD).

"There was a suggestion for the state to direct more oil money generated in western North Dakota to address oil impact by installing an interchange.
“Put it in and get it done,” one emphatic resident said." (sound familiar?)

On that note, they said one of the options in Carberry was to "widen the median". I don't know how they're going to widen the median there without expropriating land and redoing the TCH by bowing it out and creating a whole new roadbed with curves. US 83 already has a huge median there and it's judged to be dangerous.

WildCake · #**3015** Posted **Jul 10, 2025, 3:14 AM**

Well I was clearly in the wrong thinking the province wouldn't budge on the RCUT.

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Originally Posted by bryan_ca

Similar issue in Max, North Dakota at US 83 (think TCH with a huuuuge median) and ND 23 (think 5 hwy) here - https://maps.app.goo.gl/gjYciBXdnYiyZCCZ7

Article here - https://www.minotdailynews.com/news/...-alternatives/

They say the interchange option will cost $40 million USD ($55M CAD).

"There was a suggestion for the state to direct more oil money generated in western North Dakota to address oil impact by installing an interchange.
“Put it in and get it done,” one emphatic resident said." (sound familiar?)

On that note, they said one of the options in Carberry was to "widen the median". I don't know how they're going to widen the median there without expropriating land and redoing the TCH by bowing it out and creating a whole new roadbed with curves. US 83 already has a huge median there and it's judged to be dangerous.

The widened intersection was among the top 3 cheap options (RCUT, Widened, and Split). Here's more info:

https://www.gov.mb.ca/mti/projects_m...oards_-_en.pdf

Strange how an interchange in ND is only about half of what WSP said TCH/5 would cost.

Authentic_City · #**3016** Posted **Jul 10, 2025, 2:05 PM**

Yeah, 40 million US in ND versus 80-100 million CDN is a huge difference.
The high cost of construction in Manitoba comes up a lot in this forum. Some of the reasons mentioned are: less competition (fewer larger players in MB) and the cost of materials like cement (which has to be shipped in from elsewhere). Not sure what else is driving the higher cost. Maybe the way interchanges and highways are designed in MB vs ND (different design standards?).
For comparison, what does it cost to build an interchange in Saskatchewan, I wonder?

KnickKnack · #**3017** Posted **Jul 10, 2025, 2:46 PM**

It looks like installation of the variable message boards on the perimeter, 1, 75 and 6 has started. Noticed last week that foundations for one of themis in place on the south perimeter.

optimusREIM · #**3018** Posted **Jul 10, 2025, 4:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by KnickKnack

It looks like installation of the variable message boards on the perimeter, 1, 75 and 6 has started. Noticed last week that foundations for one of themis in place on the south perimeter.

I noticed them doing that, what exactly are they meant to be displaying?

KnickKnack · #**3019** Posted **Jul 10, 2025, 4:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

I noticed them doing that, what exactly are they meant to be displaying?

Road closures and conditions I guess?

https://www.merx.com/mbgov/manitobai...ION/0000276554

The delivery date listed is July 31 2025 so we should see soon enough

Flatland Metropolis · #**3020** Posted **Jul 10, 2025, 4:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by KnickKnack

Road closures and conditions I guess?

https://www.merx.com/mbgov/manitobai...ION/0000276554

The delivery date listed is July 31 2025 so we should see soon enough

Yes, this is exactly what they are supposed to do. Some communities in Manitoba were concerned that road closures were not adequately messaged and these boards should help with this during the winter. They will also be adding traffic cameras if they are not already installed at these locations. This will all link into Manitoba 511 who will be the branch responsible for the messaging.