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Old Posted Feb 26, 2020, 3:59 PM
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http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2020/0...zoning-policy/

Looks like cheap rent and expensive condos are the trends' today and in the future
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https://www.burnabynow.com/news/new-...ams-1.24064330

Deeply Concerned about this proposal and moving train queuing from Thornton Tunnel to Brentwood Burnaby. This will create a ton of noise and create huge banging noises that travels long distances along with pollution from idling and high revving trains. With the new park and all the developments going up right next to the tracks this is a bad idea. Anyone who lives in this area or has a concern please take time and write the city and CC all.

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Old Posted Feb 29, 2020, 8:04 PM
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Looks like cheap rent and expensive condos are the trends' today and in the future
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Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the impact of vacancy control on the ability of the development community, including pension funds, to secure development financing, thus leading to a low uptake of the available density, remains a concern.
Am glad they pointed out pension funds. Developers who point out something isn’t viable get screamed at and accused of being greedy. A large crowd will always scream that anything they say is a lie. But that crowd falls silent when it’s a union pension fund behind the project.
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Deeply Concerned about this proposal and moving train queuing from Thornton Tunnel to Brentwood Burnaby. This will create a ton of noise and create huge banging noises that travels long distances along with pollution from idling and high revving trains. With the new park and all the developments going up right next to the tracks this is a bad idea. Anyone who lives in this area or has a concern please take time and write the city and CC all.

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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 1:44 AM
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Deeply Concerned about this proposal and moving train queuing from Thornton Tunnel to Brentwood Burnaby. This will create a ton of noise and create huge banging noises that travels long distances along with pollution from idling and high revving trains.
Yeah, I think it's going to be nasty surprise to all those condo dwellers next to the tracks. I was last year in Vegas and staying on 58th floor of a hotel right next to the train tracks and the train whistle and the rumble was almost enough to wake up one. And the had trains passing 24/7. Would make for awful living conditions...
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 3:30 AM
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Yeah, I think it's going to be nasty surprise to all those condo dwellers next to the tracks. I was last year in Vegas and staying on 58th floor of a hotel right next to the train tracks and the train whistle and the rumble was almost enough to wake up one. And the had trains passing 24/7. Would make for awful living conditions...
But isn't most of the noise when train sets are being re-arranged? Seems like at most they'll be idling on those sets of track.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 3:49 AM
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But isn't most of the noise when train sets are being re-arranged? Seems like at most they'll be idling on those sets of track.
No this is not temporary.

Yes and no, when a train stops they make they loud banging shunting noise as the momentum causes the rail cars to smash into one another. The trains will also be idling right in front and then reving their engines super high when they start moving again, it will be an absolute nightmare for people living in this area. There is also the proposed 13 acre park and school. The city can not let this happen in area so populated. Simple solution is to move the queing to a less populated area. So if you're concerned please write the city there is a better solution this is a bone head proposal.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 4:08 AM
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No this is not temporary.

Yes and no, when a train stops they make they loud banging shunting noise as the momentum causes the rail cars to smash into one another. The trains will also be idling right in front and then reving their engines super high when they start moving again, it will be an absolute nightmare for people living in this area. There is also the proposed 13 acre park and school. The city can not let this happen in area so populated. Simple solution is to move the queing to a less populated area. So if you're concerned please write the city there is a better solution this is a bone head proposal.


You might want to post this also on the Amazing Brentwood current and future owners thread, since they are also directly impacted and not all of them might read other threads that are not directly related to that project.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 4:22 AM
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Well it's already going ahead so the city isn't going to do anything about it.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 4:26 AM
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It sounds like the western marshalling of trains for the tunnel is temporary during construction of the overpass where the trains would otherwise marshall.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 4:56 AM
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Well it's already going ahead so the city isn't going to do anything about it.
I have written the city asking to provide more information as the article does not give a lot of information. I have copied and pasted to most threads and development affected by this.

And no this has not been approved yet as far as I know. The memorandum has been sent to the city and is pending city of Burnaby approval.

"According to a release, a memorandum of understanding has been reached between the port and the municipal government to guide the planning, design, and construction of the new overpass."

Has not been approved as of yet. The Port Authority of Vancouver and CN Rail does not give a crap about the people living here. This land is highly valuable to the city and conversely this rail project is not, it will bring nothing but a nuisance and destroy the development potential of highly valuable land. Terrible idea move the queuing away from densely populated areas like this.

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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 5:27 AM
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Ok I don't think we need to post this in every project in Brentwood thread
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 6:06 AM
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Then again, the railway has been there long before condo dwellers started moving in, so its existence and noise shouldn't become as a surprise.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 6:16 AM
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Then again, the railway has been there long before condo dwellers started moving in, so its existence and noise shouldn't become as a surprise.
I have no problem with the existing line because that was a known fact. The noise from this this new proposal due to train shunting is 10 x that and will affect alot of people. This can be done a much smarter way
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 6:46 PM
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Ok I don't think we need to post this in every project in Brentwood thread
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You might want to post this also on the Amazing Brentwood current and future owners thread, since they are also directly impacted and not all of them might read other threads that are not directly related to that project.
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Then again, the railway has been there long before condo dwellers started moving in, so its existence and noise shouldn't become as a surprise.

I am not sure why all my posts were removed? Does this form not allow free speech? It was not spam, not everyone sits on this form all day and checks every thread.My post was related and relevant to all the developments it was posted on! People have the right to know whats going on and may affect the development and neighborhood.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 7:15 PM
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2020, 7:20 PM
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Good luck getting banned!
I am done with this topic just leave the information out there for people to read is all am asking.
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2020, 2:24 AM
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Free speech? This is a private forum. You posted it orginally in an appropriate manner and it was fine. Then you were literally spamming every thread for the purpose of addressing a personal issue which clearly goes against forum rules and those posts were deleted. I've left the main post here and people can discuss it if they want.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2020, 8:14 AM
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It's clearly temporary to accommodate the overpass construction...

You can see the slidings (new third track) in the renderings, which the trains will return to once it's completed. They currently already wait just a few M to the east of Douglas road to enter the Thornton tunnel. This would be not be different to what currently exists.

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A new third track will be built parallel to existing lines in the Holdom area to allow for trains to pass or queue and allow for more trains to pass through Burnaby, according to the staff report.

“This will mean more frequent noise and emissions in the area,” the report notes. “However, these impacts would still be less than if those same goods passed through the city by truck.”

The construction of the overpass will also require trains waiting to enter the Thornton Tunnel – which runs 3.4 kilometres under Burnaby from the Second Narrows Bridge to the BNSF track – to move westward towards Willingdon. <----This is temporary
You rather have them several kms away to Burnaby Lake/Winston? This screws timing, which affects all companies involved with these extremely busy BNSF tracks (CN, Amtrak, CP, VIA, Rocky Mountaineer)

You aren't going to get the noise of shunting here (think the noise by New West Quayside), they will not be assembling the trains here via rearrangements of train cars.
The construction of the overpass will also reduce noise from the train horn blasting when it passes the Douglas Rd crossing (LOUD), which seeing as to how you're in Milano, actually is good for you.

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Old Posted Mar 4, 2020, 8:55 AM
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Not knowing, may I ask: when the Douglas Rd crossing is replaced by the overpass, then how many level crossings will remain? If none, then perhaps this rail stretch could be upgraded (?)
I think of West Island Montreal, where the CN and CP main rail lines run through the western suburbs, and the high speed train for Toronto rips along at 120Km/h ~~~ (+/-)
Would a parallel track alignment and setup be feasible here. There might be HSR, or even just HrSR here one day.
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