London Construction - Development News Thread #1 - Page 127

Rosso Corsa · #**2521** Posted **Sep 4, 2015, 1:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by ssiguy

As much as they might look good for the skyline, London should not put an emphasis on height.

In terms of urban renewal, pedestrian flow, streetscape development, and infil it is far better to have 3 building of 10 stories than one of 30. The more buildings the higher number of vacant lots that are filled and a higher percentage of the buildings will have storefronts.

This is true however the cost per unit in 3 10 story buildings would be greater than the cost per unit in 1 30 story building. Given the push to increase the downtown population higher density might be the better option for cost of living.

MolsonExport · #**2522** Posted **Sep 4, 2015, 1:44 PM**

I advocate for both. If downtown London ever gets on a tear, we don't want all the best spots occupied by stumpy buildings. Density in the form of highrises is part of the prescription, along with other forms of infill.

MrSlippery519 · #**2523** Posted **Oct 14, 2015, 1:03 PM**

http://www.lfpress.com/2015/10/13/wonderland-and-wharncliffe-roads-plaza-plan-raises-questions

Similar to what we have all discussed int he past, are these new developments going to bring in people from outside the city or just shift the retail and hurt other spots in London. I personally think the development on Wonderland/Wharncliffe is just going to shift business, no way is someone coming to London for a friggen Lowe's that was not already coming to London to go to Homedepot....

Now the Penn Equity development might make people stop in London if they are driving by simply because you can see it from the 401 and is much more accessible. Plus I keep praying a Bass Pro Shop or Cabela's somehow goes into the Penn Equity site, as that would make people stop.

K85 · #**2524** Posted **Oct 15, 2015, 3:46 AM**

The Bass shop comes in........ oh boy, going broke

As much as it SHOULD happen (right in the middle of two sweet fucking lakes baby!!!), it wont. We're too small

Half million, maybe... a strong maybe

manny_santos · #**2525** Posted **Oct 15, 2015, 3:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by MrSlippery519

http://www.lfpress.com/2015/10/13/wonderland-and-wharncliffe-roads-plaza-plan-raises-questions

Similar to what we have all discussed int he past, are these new developments going to bring in people from outside the city or just shift the retail and hurt other spots in London. I personally think the development on Wonderland/Wharncliffe is just going to shift business, no way is someone coming to London for a friggen Lowe's that was not already coming to London to go to Homedepot....

Finally, people are questioning this development. As long as Joe Fontana was mayor, this development was going to create part of the 10,000 new jobs. The reality is this could easily be a repeat of the shift from Westmount to Southdale and Wonderland and create net zero jobs.

Snark · #**2526** Posted **Oct 16, 2015, 4:10 AM**

In an attempt to return the focus from shopping plazas to er, uh, skyscrapers attached below is an attempt at a comparative analysis of the more defined proposals for the downtown.

MolsonExport · #**2527** Posted **Oct 16, 2015, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by manny_santos

Finally, people are questioning this development. As long as Joe Fontana was mayor, this development was going to create part of the 10,000 new jobs. The reality is this could easily be a repeat of the shift from Westmount to Southdale and Wonderland and create net zero jobs.

and worse than that, another deadzone and the depressed effects on the environs.

MolsonExport · #**2528** Posted **Oct 16, 2015, 4:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Snark

In an attempt to return the focus from shopping plazas to er, uh, skyscrapers attached below is an attempt at a comparative analysis of the more defined proposals for the downtown.

nice, is the fullerton project dead? too bad.

MrSlippery519 · #**2529** Posted **Oct 16, 2015, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

nice, is the fullerton project dead? too bad.

Great diagram Snark, would be great to see a new tallest in London.

Regarding the Fullerton project, I have not heard this either?? I thought they did actually own the land now (old hakim optical building??)

Snark · #**2530** Posted **Oct 16, 2015, 6:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by MrSlippery519

Great diagram Snark, would be great to see a new tallest in London.

Regarding the Fullerton project, I have not heard this either?? I thought they did actually own the land now (old hakim optical building??)

Rygar (whoever that is) never owned the land at 100 Fullerton. They presented the project to council and the media and never even owned the friggin' land it was supposed to be built on. They still don't. Hence IMO, this project is stillborn and was always on shaky ground from day one. It also, IMO, raises a serious credibility issue: when Rygar (or rather their lawyer and planners) unveiled this proposal it was claimed that people would be living in this tower by this point in time, when in reality absolutely nothing has transpired in the field.

They apparently now do own the row of heritage buildings on Talbot next door to the 100 Fullerton property, and the crappy building next door to that at the corner of Talbot and Duffern which houses Hakim Optical. They now claim they are going to build something at that location (which would be across the street from 505 Talbot). Over a month ago they claimed they were going to unveil this new proposal "within weeks" but as of now still nothing but crickets. Whether their revised proposal even resembles their old one remains to be seen, or for that matter if there is anything more to "Rygar" than PowerPoint towers and smoke and mirrors.

GreatTallNorth2 · #**2531** Posted **Oct 16, 2015, 10:15 PM**

Are the 195 Dundas heights an estimate or did you find them in the proposal?

Rosso Corsa · #**2532** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 11:33 PM**

City Center towers are getting a makeover. Greying out some of the concrete. So far so good.

bolognium · #**2533** Posted **Oct 23, 2015, 8:03 AM**

Wow. I noticed all the scaffolding around the Wellington plaza, but didn't look up at the towers. Might actually have a significant impact on their appearance.

@Snark: very cool.

HillStreetBlues · #**2534** Posted **Oct 23, 2015, 11:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rosso Corsa

City Center towers are getting a makeover. Greying out some of the concrete. So far so good.

Thanks for the photo! I think that will look good.

bolognium · #**2535** Posted **Oct 24, 2015, 7:57 PM**

This little reno/reclad was totally unexpected, so I'm having a good time watching it progress. Thanks again for posting, Rosso!

View from the west as of today. Any guesses what those blue windows might mean?

Rosso Corsa · #**2536** Posted **Oct 24, 2015, 9:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by bolognium

This little reno/reclad was totally unexpected, so I'm having a good time watching it progress. Thanks again for posting, Rosso!

View from the west as of today. Any guesses what those blue windows might mean?

My guess is new windows. They were pressure blasting the frames of all the windows before they started painting, probably to remove the caulking.

Regardless, this reface should majorly improve the skyline. Good on them.

GreatTallNorth2 · #**2537** Posted **Oct 24, 2015, 10:12 PM**

They had another urban design peer review panel meeting last week and 50 King Street (Middlesex County) proposal was part of that meeting. Apparently it is a nice glass tower close to 30 stories tall. We will see details early next week.

MolsonExport · #**2538** Posted **Oct 25, 2015, 2:11 AM**

less concrete = a good thing

MrSlippery519 · #**2539** Posted **Oct 26, 2015, 12:44 PM**

Looks good, would be nice to get some more information as to what they are all doing. But either way a huge improvement

Rosso Corsa · #**2540** Posted **Nov 1, 2015, 1:47 AM**

New Hilton logo?