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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 1:03 AM
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How come, to have a converstation with any guys these days, you have to mention hot chicks in the first sentence or they write you off? What is up with that. Are guys really that afraid to be intellectual these days? Is that all they want to talk about is hot chicks, harleys and sports? How cliche do you have to be these days to talk to anyone? Its called a personality people. Get one!

I am now anticipating a bunch of quick "yes" answers from all of the guys.
I work in an office, for a large corporation. We are practically forbidden from talking about women at all, let alone in terms of them being "hot". That's 8-10 hours out of my waking day. I then go home to a female, and while she does have a good appreciation of a nice set of tits from time to time, she generally does not want to talk about hot chicks on a regular basis. That's 5-6 hours out of my waking day.

I have a chance to talk about getting laid maybe 2 hours out of every month. Sorry, but I'm taking it. I may be old and a few steps away from Viagara, but I ain't dead yet!

I never talk about Harleys though - maybe that's your problem. Stop hanging out with fags. (Note: you do need to click the link before getting upset)
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 1:13 AM
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The greatest mystery in the onionverse: why do almost all straight guys (including me) dig hot Lesbians?
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 1:42 AM
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The greatest mystery in the onionverse: why do almost all straight guys (including me) dig hot Lesbians?
Because we are arrogant enough to think we can turn them.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 3:07 AM
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 8:51 PM
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The greatest mystery in the onionverse: why do almost all straight guys (including me) dig hot Lesbians?
The best answer I ever found to this question was: it's a reminder to us guys that women do also enjoy sex. It may sound like an obvious thing to say, but I think that it is often forgotten given feminism and men-are-all-pigs attitudes that are fairly prevalent.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2010, 12:42 AM
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The greatest mystery in the onionverse: why do almost all straight guys (including me) dig hot Lesbians?
Seriously? If you're a straight male, there are no (other) males in your fantasy scenario to ruin things for you. Because "hot lesbians" share your interest in women.

If I were straight, I'd be into "hot lesbians" too.

I also have always thought that if straight women were actually free to express their sexuality honestly and not just express it in a way that makes them attractive to men (as with being "bisexual"), they'd admit that watching two hot guys getting it on would turn them on. The only women I know who admit to liking gay porn are super-successful types or believe it or not lesbians. In other words, two types of women who don't give a shit what men want.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2010, 10:10 PM
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The only way people can be demeaned by a word is if they let the word hold meaning and power.

I'd say it's pretty safe to say the word 'fag' has evolved way past an insult for homosexuals.

Without knowing anything regarding your sexual preference I can say you're being a fag about the word 'fag' right now. It's not tied to your sexuality at all, so it should have no reason to be offensive.

Just like the word 'retard' it used to be used to describe and/or insult a certain group of people but has evolved far past that now and it's time to let the old meaning go.

In fact, I'd venture that I call my heterosexual friends 'fag' approximately 20 times more often than I call my homosexual friends 'fag'. I probably use 'fag' in describing my female friends slightly less than that becuase it only has the right ring to it in certain situations.

The heterosexual guys get the most upset by it.

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So we are all supposed to adhere to your beliefs? I dont agree with you at all and I get quite tired hearing of the word "Fag" or 'gay" or "homo" being used to describe something negative or someone unordinary. You wont get very far as a proffesional when you use words like that....especially retard. What are you ......17? Come on man. Time to grow up.

Does anyone agree with this Hulk Rogan guy? Just because the meaning of the word fag has changed in his eyes, he is free to use it wherever he wants. I totally disagree, and this kind of Calgary thinking has to stop.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2010, 10:50 PM
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My opinion as a gay man: If "fag" is the best insult you can come up with, then you should only ever say it to a mirror.

A good way to get back at them, if when someone does something stupid in their presence, say "fuck dude, that was so Hulk Rogan of you". It's the same principle as calling them a fag, but it lets the person who uses fag see how disrespectful it is to use that word as a general insult. That isn't mature either but it is more clever than using "fag", which is basically a cop-out.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2010, 11:28 PM
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Okay here I've got a new question I hope you guys can answer.

Why do some men (and women) enjoy going to a strip club or viewing pornography? You will never be able to have sexual intercourse, or any other sort of relation to the female that is exposing their self to you, so what's the benefit? Temporary visual stimulation? I just don't get it. To me, it seems like fruitless trickery, as if you deceive yourself momentarily into believing that just maybe you'll be able to have sex with this person that's taking off their clothes in front of you or naked on the screen.

I've never been to a strip bar or viewed pornography, so someone please explain to me why this stuff is apparently so parasitic and addicting?
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 12:30 AM
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It arouses you, makes it easier to "finish up". If you think you're going to have sex with that person, or in some cases, that kind of sex with any person, you've got a serious problem.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 2:27 AM
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It arouses you, makes it easier to "finish up". If you think you're going to have sex with that person, or in some cases, that kind of sex with any person, you've got a serious problem.
So then I guess it becomes an issue with the genetic and pre-dispositions ingrained in us humans, hey? Rather unfortunate if you ask me.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 3:00 AM
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Yeah, humans aren't as intelligent and capable as we think we are. But if we all start thinking like that we'll get depressed and off ourselves, so it is better to pretend we can do everything we set our minds to, like communism.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 4:17 AM
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I've never been to a strip bar or viewed pornography, so someone please explain to me why this stuff is apparently so parasitic and addicting?
I'm not going to lie and say I've never viewed pornography, but I am not a fan of the strippers at all. I look at it like being hungry and paying to look at food...maybe it's different if you're married.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 4:31 AM
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I'm not going to lie and say I've never viewed pornography, but I am not a fan of the strippers at all. I look at it like being hungry and paying to look at food...maybe it's different if you're married.
I agree with your analogy, but what do you mean "different if you're married"? It should be even more frowned upon then. If you're a married man and you're going to look at other women aside from your wife, that's just messed up to say the least.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 4:38 AM
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I agree with your analogy, but what do you mean "different if you're married"? It should be even more frowned upon then. If you're a married man and you're going to look at other women aside from your wife, that's just messed up to say the least.
I mean if you're married, then you're not hungry...you're just paying to look at different food...

An as for frowned upon, that's between husband and wife. There are many people in open relationships, and many women who don't get upset when their husbands go to the peelers. Not all people share the same morals and values. nor should they.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 4:53 AM
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An as for frowned upon, that's between husband and wife. There are many people in open relationships, and many women who don't get upset when their husbands go to the peelers. Not all people share the same morals and values. nor should they.
Really? Are you sure? I disagree. "Open relationships" are just merely by-products of our self-centred, ignorant, and micro-wave society. Our society is solely based on getting the most value with the least amount of effort that we saturate every aspect of our lives with what feels the best. Some would argue that this is what is right, that we must life to satisfy ourselves because that is the only thing to live for. Unfortunately, life means much more than just satisfying our own cravings. There is something out there beyond our own intrinsic motivation. If a husband tells his wife that he wants to get intimate, and a wife does not feel like it, it's so easy for her to say "go see some strippers" or "go look at some porn" to get him off her back, and it's so easy for the husband to comply. The truth is, this does not address the underlying issue. Instead of talking things through, the couple resorts to an easy fix which really isn't a fix at all, but rather a temporary solution. The problem with temporary solutions is self explainable: they are temporary. If the husband has the same issue two nights later, the response from the wife will be the same. Over an indefinite period of time, their relationship begins to deteriorate as both parties succumb to doing what is easiest, as society has told us to. Whether they realize it or not, they begin to harm their relationship. How? As a man views other women as objects, not only does he lose respect for them, but he also loses respect for his own wife. How could he not? Upon losing respect for his wife, he begins to treat her worse and worse, and in turn she does the same to him. If there are children involved, the children witness this and it socially damages them. Perhaps it will lead to a divorce, or perhaps it will just lead to a terrible relationship. Either way, none of these options are good for anyone other than divorce lawyers or councillors. In the end, both of the people involved have learned to use the easiest solution to their issues. To do what feels good, and usually what feels good is the easiest solution requiring the least amount of effort.

As time progresses and more and more people subscribe to doing "what feels good", society capitalizes on this and perpetuates it within the media, media-driven stereotypes, and hyper-consumption cycles because this is what the population desires, and it is what we are told to desire. In turn, it breeds a lazy, fat, apathetic, and uncaring population, including our politicians, academics, and capitalists. Now we are just a people who care for only ourselves, and want only what we want all because we don't have the willpower to deny the most primitive of our desires or sustain endured patience to talk things through and deal with issues.

Instead of fixing the issues that matter to us, we put band-aids over them. We have become a microwave society centred on pleasure and ease. We are going to die regretting every moment of it.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 5:12 AM
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Urggg...I don't really want to get into this topic. Suffice it to say I disagree. I don't think viewing a bit of T&A is going to bring the downfall of society. A man and women joined till death do them part is a relatively new paradigm. It's certainly not a 'natural' one, we only have to look to the animal world where partners for life is the exception, not the rule to realize that. There's reason there is such a high rate of failed marriages and divorces these day, it just doesn't work for everybody. The only reason marriages lasted for life 'back in the day' is because there was an unsurmountable social stigma attached to divorce/separation. Is being trapped in a loveless marriage for 30-40 years a better solution for society? Who does that benefit? Certainly not the couple involved.

Look, some people can wed for life, and continue a strong love and respect for each other for that entire period, I say good for them. Hell, I'm enough of a dreamer to still hope it will happen to me.

I don't think however we should hold all of society up to that standard. It just isn't for everybody. I say if two people who love each other are secure enough to allow themselves to go to the strippers or yes, even have sex with other people then good for them. It's not for me, it's clearly not for you, but who are we to pass judgement?
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Really? Are you sure? I disagree. "Open relationships" are just merely by-products of our self-centred, ignorant, and micro-wave society. Our society is solely based on getting the most value with the least amount of effort that we saturate every aspect of our lives with what feels the best. Some would argue that this is what is right, that we must life to satisfy ourselves because that is the only thing to live for. Unfortunately, life means much more than just satisfying our own cravings. There is something out there beyond our own intrinsic motivation. If a husband tells his wife that he wants to get intimate, and a wife does not feel like it, it's so easy for her to say "go see some strippers" or "go look at some porn" to get him off her back, and it's so easy for the husband to comply. The truth is, this does not address the underlying issue. Instead of talking things through, the couple resorts to an easy fix which really isn't a fix at all, but rather a temporary solution. The problem with temporary solutions is self explainable: they are temporary. If the husband has the same issue two nights later, the response from the wife will be the same. Over an indefinite period of time, their relationship begins to deteriorate as both parties succumb to doing what is easiest, as society has told us to. Whether they realize it or not, they begin to harm their relationship. How? As a man views other women as objects, not only does he lose respect for them, but he also loses respect for his own wife. How could he not? Upon losing respect for his wife, he begins to treat her worse and worse, and in turn she does the same to him. If there are children involved, the children witness this and it socially damages them. Perhaps it will lead to a divorce, or perhaps it will just lead to a terrible relationship. Either way, none of these options are good for anyone other than divorce lawyers or councillors. In the end, both of the people involved have learned to use the easiest solution to their issues. To do what feels good, and usually what feels good is the easiest solution requiring the least amount of effort.

As time progresses and more and more people subscribe to doing "what feels good", society capitalizes on this and perpetuates it within the media, media-driven stereotypes, and hyper-consumption cycles because this is what the population desires, and it is what we are told to desire. In turn, it breeds a lazy, fat, apathetic, and uncaring population, including our politicians, academics, and capitalists. Now we are just a people who care for only ourselves, and want only what we want all because we don't have the willpower to deny the most primitive of our desires or sustain endured patience to talk things through and deal with issues.

Instead of fixing the issues that matter to us, we put band-aids over them. We have become a microwave society centred on pleasure and ease. We are going to die regretting every moment of it.
For someone who seems rather naive about these sorts of things, you certainly seem to have an intimate understanding of the motivations underlying people in open relationships.

Suffice to say, that the concept of marital fidelity, while not new, has certainly been disregarded for eternity. Some couples choose, for various reasons, to openly acknowledge that one or both may seek sex outside of their marriage. At least the couple is being honest with one another instead of dishonest with one another, which is essentially what the traditional marriage you speak of really was. In some cases these relationships don't work, in some cases it is a desperate attempt to make a broken relationship last, but in some cases, the decision to be in an open relationship is built on maturity and honesty and respect for each other, and is strong and secure. The whole spectrum exists, just as with relationships where the couple choose to be monogamous.
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