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Old Posted Aug 27, 2010, 5:09 PM
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Point taken about asphalt over concrete. It's been a while since I've been on blades (last time I was on blades was the last time I will ever blade, I'm too klutzy and my tailbone suffered for months)

But last time I biked, I wasn't so pansy-ass as to consider how much harder it was to bike on concrete over asphalt
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Point taken about asphalt over concrete. It's been a while since I've been on blades (last time I was on blades was the last time I will ever blade, I'm too klutzy and my tailbone suffered for months)

But last time I biked, I wasn't so pansy-ass as to consider how much harder it was to bike on concrete over asphalt
Hmmm. We'll last time I biked was a couple hours ago on a concrete velodrome and I still think asphalt was the right choice for this path.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2010, 11:13 PM
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2010, 11:14 PM
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Driving home from work tonight I noticed that they've re-aligned the Riverfront Rd along the river near Chinatown to one lane (removing the turn lane) to put in a new bike lane. Good to see this as we're needing more of those.
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Keep on topic? Why don't you ever post that in the construction thread where it's actually needed?
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Driving home from work tonight I noticed that they've re-aligned the Riverfront Rd along the river near Chinatown to one lane (removing the turn lane) to put in a new bike lane. Good to see this as we're needing more of those.
An actual bike lane on a road? that makes what, 5 of them now? great to hear.
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An actual bike lane on a road? that makes what, 5 of them now? great to hear.
Another seal broken. The end of times will soon be upon us.
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I'd be interested to know what major routes have a wide curb lane, where a bike lane could very easily be added?

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I think of roads like Centre street, 4th, 5th and 6th avenues downtown. Others?
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I'd be interested to know what major routes have a wide curb lane, where a bike lane could very easily be added?

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I think of roads like Centre street, 4th, 5th and 6th avenues downtown. Others?
4th and 6th Ave have really narrow lanes, but I'd be curious as to how many lanes will be necessary after the West LRT is built. 6th Ave would be a better road because it would connect EV with 11th Street.

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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 5:14 AM
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I'd be interested to know what major routes have a wide curb lane, where a bike lane could very easily be added?

Any ideas?

I think of roads like Centre street, 4th, 5th and 6th avenues downtown. Others?
Shout out to Edmonton Trail! Overall, I hope this street moves towards it's urban boulevard use as proposed by Plan It.
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Having just been on a several-city urban vacation (I still have yet to post my NYC photos and a full write-up on my blog but I'll get around to it soon here), I have a few different thoughts on cycling.

First of all, one of the neatest things I saw were bike rental stations in Montreal. Not sure entirely how it works but the gist of it is that you go to each of the locations (which are literally all over the island) and you can rent a bike for a base time of 30 minutes and/or add time in increments of 15 minutes. To end your time you simply put the bike back on the rack where it gets locked up until the next person comes along.



One thought on this... it seems a lot more useful if you take out the consideration of people carrying bike helmets around with them, so you can just swipe your card, hop on a bike, and go. With that said, I saw a lot of empty bike racks, implying that the system is well used.

Of course, what are rental stations without proper lanes to use the bikes on. Montreal, of course, has many recreational paths such as the ones up on Parc Mont Royal that have the same mixed ped/bike movement and 20km/hr that Calgary pathways do. On many of its roads however, it has marked bike lanes that are placed on one side of the street.

Ex. Bike lanes with no separation from traffic via median


Ex. Bike lane w/ rental station


Ex. Bikers on lane separated from automobile traffic by concrete median


Several metro stations also have a large number of bike racks as well. This one at Station Mont Royal had a bike rack stretching down the block. It's a very busy station, and has an tiny, open-air market set up in front of the station entrance. Not entirely sterilized either... there were several homeless people sleeping in the park and one was urinating only feet away from groups of teens. That doesn't seem to scare people away or keep them from dropping their bikes off though.

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First of all, one of the neatest things I saw were bike rental stations in Montreal. Not sure entirely how it works but the gist of it is that you go to each of the locations (which are literally all over the island) and you can rent a bike for a base time of 30 minutes and/or add time in increments of 15 minutes. To end your time you simply put the bike back on the rack where it gets locked up until the next person comes along.

One thought on this... it seems a lot more useful if you take out the consideration of people carrying bike helmets around with them, so you can just swipe your card, hop on a bike, and go. With that said, I saw a lot of empty bike racks, implying that the system is well used.
Bixi is awesome, but it is priced really just for inter city movement, not touring. It can be very cheap when riding from one part of the city to another that is less than 30 minutes apart (say from the the Port to the Plateau), but I wouldn't tool around the Park with it or Ste-Helene. I use it alot and love it, though I don't think it would work in Calgary. The type of destinations suited best to a Bixi type system aren't that far apart here and everyone in Calgary already appears to own a bike - or at least likes wearing spandex! Funny how Toronto has been so slow to pick up on a Bixi type system.


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Of course, what are rental stations without proper lanes to use the bikes on. Montreal, of course, has many recreational paths such as the ones up on Parc Mont Royal that have the same mixed ped/bike movement and 20km/hr that Calgary pathways do. On many of its roads however, it has marked bike lanes that are placed on one side of the street.

Ex. Bikers on lane separated from automobile traffic by concrete median
The seperated lanes are the best, plus they are plowed in winter. This is one bit of urban fabric execution I think Montreal has done so much better in than just about anybody else in NA.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2010, 4:33 PM
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We had separated, paved, plowed-in-winter bike lanes in Madison, Wisconsin. I never owned a car in seven years of grad school there and never felt the desire (or need) to have a car.

Montreal's bike rentals are a drop in the bucket compared to what's available in every city in Europe... that said, I think there could be a place for this in Calgary, especially seeing as we have hundreds of thousands of visitors who don't bring bikes in their suitcases. We could have rental stations around, say, Olympic Plaza, around Eau Claire, in Kensington, on 17th somewhere... scale would be different than in other cities but it's worth a shot.
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While the bike lanes on Riverfront will be great for now, I don't really get the point once the paths are opened back up. It seems there would have been higher bike traffic locations they could have worked on. Oh well, it's a start.
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That bike rental is a cool idea.

I was driving down MacLeod trail today and some guy was riding bike heading northbound around 44 ave.

Sane or insane?
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While the bike lanes on Riverfront will be great for now, I don't really get the point once the paths are opened back up. It seems there would have been higher bike traffic locations they could have worked on. Oh well, it's a start.
I am thinking it may just be a temporary thing for cyclist. The City of Calgary has a bylaw against riding a bicycle on the sidewalk. There were a lot of cyclist that were using the sidewalk as a result of the Riverwalk construction, so police would have had to enforce the bylaws which would have in turn created additional safety and mobility issues for cyclists...
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Speaking of bylaws.. that's one hurdle to bike sharing in Calgary that I've never really considered before. If I'm correct, Calgary has a bylaw requiring anybody on a bike to be wearing a helmet. I don't think most of the other cities with bike sharing programs have a similar bylaw. I can't think of a way around this without forcing users to buy their own helmets. Since a lot of people who use these bike sharing programs are tourists or people without their own bikes, I could see this as a reason for a bixi style program to fail in Calgary.
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That bike rental is a cool idea.

I was driving down MacLeod trail today and some guy was riding bike heading northbound around 44 ave.

Sane or insane?
I've taken 42nd before on my way back from Vulcan. The new bike lane on 11th street ends at 46th Ave. 46th Ave connects with 42nd Ave, are you sure you didn't see the cyclist on 42nd? 11th Street to 46th Ave to Manhattan Rd to 42nd Ave could use one solid bike lane.

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Speaking of bylaws.. that's one hurdle to bike sharing in Calgary that I've never really considered before. If I'm correct, Calgary has a bylaw requiring anybody on a bike to be wearing a helmet. I don't think most of the other cities with bike sharing programs have a similar bylaw. I can't think of a way around this without forcing users to buy their own helmets. Since a lot of people who use these bike sharing programs are tourists or people without their own bikes, I could see this as a reason for a bixi style program to fail in Calgary.

I think only minors must wear helmets.
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