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Old Posted Jul 5, 2023, 2:58 PM
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I love how all of Metro Van has this unspoken agreement that Playland doesn't count.

Assuming Six Flags, Disney or Universal are interested, by all means! Pretty big assumption though, since they tend to avoid winter countries; Surrey might need a giant dome like the late Universal Moscow.
That was the late 90s when there was talk to redevelop the fraser river foreshore. I believe it was disney and Winn that wanted to build a casino and park where all the auto wreckers were.
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I love how all of Metro Van has this unspoken agreement that Playland doesn't count.

Assuming Six Flags, Disney or Universal are interested, by all means! Pretty big assumption though, since they tend to avoid winter countries; Surrey might need a giant dome like the late Universal Moscow.
There are major theme parks in a number of winter cities in North America. Valley Fair in Minneapolis, Canada's Wonderland in Toronto, Hershey Park in the middle-of-nowhere Pennsylvania, Cedar Point near Cleveland, etc.

I am curious about the economics of these parks. Obviously, they don't earn revenue year-round like the parks in California or Florida. Is real estate in the Lower Mainland perhaps too expensive to make a theme park work? Do we maybe have too many other attractions (beaches, mountains) that would cannibalize customers? Do high construction costs mean no new theme parks are viable in North America?
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2023, 6:46 PM
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Is there no more movie theatre in Newton (I moved away a few years ago)?

I think Surrey needs to do what Richmond does--capitalize on its major immigration population. Non-residents do not go to Richmond for their movie theatre, we go there for its excellent Chinese food and cultural amenities. Surrey could do that with its Indian immigration. I still wonder why there has not been an Indian equivalent to T&T.
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Heh, I believe that's No Frills. Maybe they could diversify into Indian products?

If you mean Strawberry Hill, that's always been there, but if there was any cinema at Newton Centre itself, it's gone.

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There are major theme parks in a number of winter cities in North America. Valley Fair in Minneapolis, Canada's Wonderland in Toronto, Hershey Park in the middle-of-nowhere Pennsylvania, Cedar Point near Cleveland, etc...
Generally speaking, the above parks appear to be half the size or less of their warmer cousins - perhaps they just absorb the loss?
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2023, 7:54 PM
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No Frills are franchises, so different stores have different selections of ethnic goods (i.e. Broadway versus Kits 4th Ave.).

I think I heard that the Real Canadian Superstore in Surrey is heavy on goods that East Indians/South Asians would want (i.e. pallets of 20 lb bags of onions)
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How about a theme/amusement park near Surrey downtown ? There is none in BC ? :-)
It's sad that Great Wolf Lodge did not come to Surrey. It would of worked.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but the GEC Education Mega Centre site at 10240 City Parkway has been put up for sale.

It would seem unlikely now that the project will proceed in its current form with a different developer.
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Is there no more movie theatre in Newton (I moved away a few years ago)?
‘Hard decision’ to close doors of Surrey’s Hollywood 3 Cinema, says operator of movie theatre

The doors of Hollywood 3 Cinema in Newton will close forever on Dec. 29, after a final week of movies there.

https://www.surreynowleader.com/entertai...-cinemas-says-operator-of-movie-theatre/
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Fruiticana is a smaller Indian grocery store, they have many locations in Surrey. I find the produce however to be second rate, it's not the best.


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There is an indoor amusement place down near the Scott Road Station. It opened just as the Pandemic hit, March 2020. Seems to have arcade games, a roller skating rink and bowling and more.

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there are a few Chalo stores which are mainly South Asian foods, they are Freshcos which used to be Safeway stores.


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I would like to see a Homesense for the Surrey Central area, it's so far to go to the one in Strawberry Hill, but from Whalley we find the fastest one to get to is the Coquitlam one.
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Fruiticana is a smaller Indian grocery store, they have many locations in Surrey. I find the produce however to be second rate, it's not the best.


there are a few Chalo stores which are mainly South Asian foods, they are Freshcos which used to be Safeway stores.
A friend moved to Newton in the fall and I don't know why but he thought he'd be doing most of his grocery shopping over here (he used to live over by Joyce Skytrain). He's found the Fruiticana's to be hit and miss - some of them are pretty good while others are pretty crappy. He also regularly goes to Chalos. I'd guess he does 95% of his grocery shopping there and what he picks up over here is just what he happens to find a deal on.
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Fruiticana is a smaller Indian grocery store, they have many locations in Surrey. I find the produce however to be second rate, it's not the best.


fruiticana.com
Well, that produce quality screams Superstore, and they've gone along and even aped the colour scheme.
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With how long they've been talking about this project and nothing had started I'm not shocked it's canceled


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Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but the GEC Education Mega Centre site at 10240 City Parkway has been put up for sale.

It would seem unlikely now that the project will proceed in its current form with a different developer.
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Any news about the old recreation building across from Surrey Central Skytrain station ? No more YMCA ?
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Why do little produce stores always look ugly af.
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Any news about the old recreation building across from Surrey Central Skytrain station ? No more YMCA ?
That dive needs to be taken down ASAP. IMO, it is one of the biggest barriers to change in that core area. Thought it was to come down just before COVID but then got turned into a shelter to accommodate social distancing. Can't wait for it to get torn down as it serves no purpose now other than an eyesore.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2023, 5:07 PM
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Is there no more movie theatre in Newton (I moved away a few years ago)?

I think Surrey needs to do what Richmond does--capitalize on its major immigration population. Non-residents do not go to Richmond for their movie theatre, we go there for its excellent Chinese food and cultural amenities. Surrey could do that with its Indian immigration. I still wonder why there has not been an Indian equivalent to T&T.
T&T is owned by Weston so run as an other store in their varies brandings. Where as Indian stores are definitely in different class. I doubt anyone gets excited for an indian store as its mainly bulk flours and grains which also are low margin so stores are a rougher looking.

But they have the tandori flame buffet in Delta $$
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I think Surrey needs to do what Richmond does--capitalize on its major immigration population. Non-residents do not go to Richmond for their movie theatre, we go there for its excellent Chinese food and cultural amenities. Surrey could do that with its Indian immigration. I still wonder why there has not been an Indian equivalent to T&T.
Did Richmond do that intentionally though? Seems like most of the Chinese food establishments that attract outside visitors are private developments. Surrey has those too, however they're much less centralized than in Richmond. You're pretty much only going to find great Chinese food within spitting distance of No. 3 Road between Granville Ave and the north arm of the Fraser, whereas you can find great Indian food everywhere in Surrey. Richmond's combination of height restrictions and ALR restrictions have resulted in widespread mid-rise density, which has been great for concentrating many competing restaurants into a relatively small area, which ultimately increases quality as bad restaurants, or restaurants that don't advertise themselves well, will fail. Surrey's suburban sprawl and lack of any real density, at least until very recently, hasn't forced the same competition and therefore elevation of quality and need for advertising.

Surrey is also much more ethnically diverse than Richmond and hasn't had a majority population of a single pan ethnic group since the 2006 census (when that group was European). Only in the 2021 did South Asian (37%) surpass European (30%) as the largest pan ethnic group. For Richmond this happened decades prior where East Asians were the largest pan ethnic group since the 2006 census, and a clear majority since 2016 (49.75% in 2011 though).

Surrey also has substantial growth in it's non-European/non-South Asian demographics too, which isn't quite as pronounced in Richmond.

Considering those demographic differences it would be difficult for the city to directly promote a single ethnic group as a major attraction to the city. The city does still promote South Asian cultural events like the Vaisakhi parade, however there's also large pan ethnic events like the Fusion Festival. The trouble is these aren't reoccurring so it ends up being a one time infusion of people to the city and then no activity until the next major event, instead of activity occurring on a daily or weekly basis.

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T&T is owned by Weston so run as an other store in their varies brandings. Where as Indian stores are definitely in different class. I doubt anyone gets excited for an indian store as its mainly bulk flours and grains which also are low margin so stores are a rougher looking.
People were excited when Fruiticana opened a store in New West a little while back. Fruiticana's probably the closest thing that comes to a "South Asian T&T" here, I'd guess.
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Melrose coming along - looks about half done - photo mine from today.

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