Surrey City Centre Redevelopment Plans

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by GMasterAres

I still think reducing KGB through that stretch to 2 lanes is not an issue IF they build appropriate right turn queue lanes at key intersections or turning points. The cross section proposed in that article has a tree separation from the bike lanes which is wide enough for 1 lane and from a safety perspective, you'd likely want that to stop near intersections to allow right turners to SEE cyclists.

True. King George doesn't need more lanes - Surrey needs more travel options than cars. Transit is slowly getting better (Skytrain down Fraser Hwy will be a big improvement). Now what's needed are some wider sidewalks on busier streets and somewhere for bikes and other micro mobility.

Thankfully the main north - south streets are better than they used to be. Both 128th and 132nd used to switch back and forth between between 2 and 4 lanes. 140th, 144th and 148th have gaps and don't cover the whole distance from Hwy 10 to 108th Ave (although they do provide some relief to King George).

Most of what I've been hearing has been east - west avenues finally getting some badly needed work done. Anything to make the roads more grid-like will take some demand off King George. Also if they ever get around to building Skytrain on King George between Surrey Central and Newton...

[Lexus]

2023, Apr 22

City Centre 4

Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

I think it is women supportive housing:

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Random along KGB

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[madog222]

Originally Posted by Lexus

Random along KGB

Comma King George (9656 KGB) with the blue crane; Belvedere with the yellow crane.

[Jatt jatt]

https://healthandtechnologydistrict.com/the-health-and-technology-district-area-plan/

[CoryHolmes]

The buildings directly beside the Billiard Hall and mini-mall on 104 have all been flattened.

I'm always amazed at how quickly structures come down compared to how slowly they get put up.

[madog222]

Marcon bought 13511 102 Ave in March, this is immediately south of the GEC site.

https://biv.com/article/2023/05/metro-vancouver-residential-land-posted-astonishing-prices-q1

[SpongeG]

Surrey condo tower developer defends substantial delay
Edmonton-based Everest Developments claims four-year pause in construction was due to outside forces and it is now on track to completion - but some pre-sale buyers are skeptical
By Frank O'Brien, Western Investor | June 2, 2023


The building site of Centra, a 167-unit condo tower in central Surrey, was nearly sold out in 2019 and some buyers are now asking for a return of deposits due to construction delays. | Everest Development Group rendering




The building site of Centra, a 167-unit condo tower in central Surrey, was nearly sold out in 2019 and some buyers are now asking for a return of deposits due to construction delays. | Everest Development Group rendering
Edmonton-based developer Haris Thiara, president of Everest Development Group, is defending a four-year delay in construction of a nearly sold-out Surrey condo project that is now not expected to complete until December 2024.

But, unlike some other Metro Vancouver developers who have bailed out of troubled projects, Thiara said Everest would meet the new deadline and honour the original prices.

The Centra, a 167-unit, 23-storey condo tower at 13852 101 Avenue in central Surrey, was issued a development permit on October 4, 2016, and building permits in 2018 “allowing the start of construction”, according to the City of Surrey.

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https://biv.com/article/2023/06/surrey-condo-tower-developer-defends-substantial-delay

[madog222]

Things must be extremely bleak if that's the developer's render.

From last September on Centra:

Originally Posted by Repthe250

I’ve lived in the area for 14 months now and the crane has been up for all 14 of them. Not a single thing has happened on that site. Still a giant hole. I don’t know if this project is paused or bankrupt but, it doesn’t seem to be moving at all.

[Klazu]

I was surprised to see how small the skyline still appears from the air.

[Hotwax]

My picture of City Centre 4 from Saturday, 3-Jun-2023:


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[seamusmcduff]

104 ave and Whalley:
20230605_124327 by Sven Johrgan, on Flickr

KGB and 107a Ave:
20230605_125224 by Sven Johrgan, on Flickr

[GMD]

Just a crappy phone picture, but I thought this was a bit of an unusual view of the Surrey skyline.

IMG_5085 by GM D, on Flickr

[vanman]

r/urbanplanning thread on the success of Surrey City Centre:

https://happycities.com/blog/zoning-wont...rbs-on-its-own-but-one-great-block-might

https://www.reddit.com/r/urbanplanning/c..._source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[mcj]

Originally Posted by vanman

r/urbanplanning thread on the success of Surrey City Centre:

https://happycities.com/blog/zoning-wont...rbs-on-its-own-but-one-great-block-might

https://www.reddit.com/r/urbanplanning/c..._source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

It makes sense that forcing a car dependent area into a walkable downtown would be a challenging thing to do overnight. As much as public investment into kickstarting that process is necessary and could help other cities, I can't help but notice they didn't really mention Surrey's advantage in being located in one of the most inflated housing markets in the world with a decades long housing crisis, that must of helped too, it's not like Winnipeg could throw down a similar public investment and achieve similar success as quickly as Surrey did.

It's also weird praising Dianne* Watts as some sort of urbanist "reformer". She was much more concerned with cleaning up crime and increasing property values for developers in the area than any urbanist motivations. After all, she lives on the other side of the city in a mansion in a completely car dependent area.

[e-clam9]

I like the vision of Surrey City. There will be more college, office, tech/medical buildings in Surrey.
The future terminus station for a high speed train from Seattle will help a lot.
Surrey is missing tourism and a night life which is an important part of Vancouver.

[Greetingsfromcanada]

Originally Posted by e-clam9

I like the vision of Surrey City. There will be more college, office, tech/medical buildings in Surrey.
The future terminus station for a high speed train from Seattle will help a lot.
Surrey is missing tourism and a night life which is an important part of Vancouver.

Interntional tourism is not happening and HSR to Seattle is a waste of money. What Whalley can do is capture local demand South of Fraser. That's almost a million people that mostly go out of town to do stuff. Doesn't need to be that way. Need to focus on drawing in local dollars. Need a city plan for entertainment district. Even basic stuff like a cinema would help

[Migrant_Coconut]

Kind of ridiculous how there's basically only two movie theatres in all of Surrey, and neither of them are in Whalley; there should be one big one near Surrey Central. A convention centre wouldn't hurt either.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Kind of ridiculous how there's basically only two movie theatres in all of Surrey, and neither of them are in Whalley; there should be one big one near Surrey Central. A convention centre wouldn't hurt either.

Hey don't forget about the Caprice in South Surrey! They're pretty lucky the Cineplex in Grandview never came to fruition.

[e-clam9]

How about a theme/amusement park near Surrey downtown ? There is none in BC ? :-)

[Migrant_Coconut]

I love how all of Metro Van has this unspoken agreement that Playland doesn't count.

Assuming Six Flags, Disney or Universal are interested, by all means! Pretty big assumption though, since they tend to avoid winter countries; Surrey might need a giant dome like the late Universal Moscow.