Canadian Airport Thread - Page 802

hollywoodcory · #**16021** Posted **Jul 4, 2023, 7:05 PM**

WS originally announced YYZ-BON back in 2020 for a Feb 2021 launch, obviously sidelined by the pandemic.

This has to be mainline WS first non-Western Canada related route announcement in like year

Odd they would announce this separately from the winter schedule coming in a few weeks.

thenoflyzone · #**16022** Posted **Jul 4, 2023, 7:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dominion301

Air Inuit announce plans to acquire three 738s and convert them to combis: https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/fl...ple-of-nunavik-and-beyond-818800369.html

3H are going to need to have the runway at YPX paved for this to be realized to its full potential.

It was a matter of time, really. Those old 732s cant keep flying forever.

casper · #**16023** Posted **Jul 4, 2023, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS originally announced YYZ-BON back in 2020 for a Feb 2021 launch, obviously sidelined by the pandemic.

This has to be mainline WS first non-Western Canada related route announcement in like year

Odd they would announce this separately from the winter schedule coming in a few weeks.

Perhaps they have a tour operator that is booking a large block of seats on the flight and their partner wanted to make it available for booking.

Would be good to see what is happening once they start to bring on line the Swoop replacement and any extra flights that Sunwing may need.

J81 · #**16024** Posted **Jul 4, 2023, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Realistically, most operators went for the E-195 because it was cheaper or available more quickly than the A220. in other words, second best but other factors weighed in its favour.

Also, transcontinental YVR-YYZ is not an optimal regional jet route. Sure they can do it but it isn't the kind of route it was really designed for.

Pretty much exactly what i said yes! I agree.

thenoflyzone · #**16025** Posted **Jul 4, 2023, 10:45 PM**

EK starts YUL tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing the Emirates tail in Montreal in the mornings.

Loads on the inaugural look very good. The inbound is almost full, with a LF in the high 90s. The outbound back to DXB is in the low 90s. The next couple of days looks very good as well, with a LF in the 80s and 90s.

Not bad, considering the route was only announced 2 months ago.

hehehe · #**16026** Posted **Jul 5, 2023, 2:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS originally announced YYZ-BON back in 2020 for a Feb 2021 launch, obviously sidelined by the pandemic.

This has to be mainline WS first non-Western Canada related route announcement in like year

Odd they would announce this separately from the winter schedule coming in a few weeks.

Yeah that's a bit weird, but some of their other changes have been a bit weird too. I have no idea why YYC-LAX is still loaded as 3x daily next winter.

caribb · #**16027** Posted **Jul 5, 2023, 6:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

EK starts YUL tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing the Emirates tail in Montreal in the mornings.

Loads on the inaugural look very good. The inbound is almost full, with a LF in the high 90s. The outbound back to DXB is in the low 90s. The next couple of days looks very good as well, with a LF in the 80s and 90s.

Not bad, considering the route was only announced 2 months ago.

Those LF’s are encouraging. Hopefully the appropriate fares match too. Great to see them here. Maybe we’ll see an A380 here and there in the future. I saw this inaugural come in over the east end early in the morning. I read there was a Canadian copilot flying the plane too.

whatnext · #**16028** Posted **Jul 5, 2023, 6:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by casper

Perhaps they have a tour operator that is booking a large block of seats on the flight and their partner wanted to make it available for booking.

Would be good to see what is happening once they start to bring on line the Swoop replacement and any extra flights that Sunwing may need.

Isn't the idea that there is no Swoop replacement? Both Swoop and Sunwing are to be rolled into the Westjet brand.

hollywoodcory · #**16029** Posted **Jul 5, 2023, 6:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by casper

Perhaps they have a tour operator that is booking a large block of seats on the flight and their partner wanted to make it available for booking.

Would be good to see what is happening once they start to bring on line the Swoop replacement and any extra flights that Sunwing may need.

There is no replacement for Swoop, both WO and WG are being brought into the WS mainline brand.

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Originally Posted by hehehe

Yeah that's a bit weird, but some of their other changes have been a bit weird too. I have no idea why YYC-LAX is still loaded as 3x daily next winter.

Maybe YYC-LAX is being kept 3x daily year-round? I was more surprised to see YYC-KOA get a full season extension before HNL. But maybe I'm just not that familiar with Hawaii demand.

thenoflyzone · #**16030** Posted **Jul 5, 2023, 7:31 PM**

2 Canadian pilots on the inaugural EK flight to YUL this morning. 340 passengers on board. That’s a 96% load factor.

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/em...ign=20230705_montreal&utm_content=global

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Commanding the inaugural flight to Montréal was Captain Talal Al Hammadi (UAE National), Captain David Reny (Canadian), First Officer Omar Alhammadi (UAE National) and First Officer Veljko Veljovic (Canadian).

Emirates Chief Commercial Officer and two VP’s were on board the flight. Official pictures and videos with commentary from the VIPs at DXB, including the Canadian ambassador to the UAE, in the link below.

https://gulfnews.com/business/aviation/e...kes-off-from-dubai-to-montral-1.96784245

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Emirates executives onboard included: Adnan Kazim, Chief Commercial Officer; Salem Obaidalla, Senior Vice President of Commercial Operations, Americas; and David Broz, Vice President of Aeropolitical and Industry Affairs.

casper · #**16031** Posted **Jul 5, 2023, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Isn't the idea that there is no Swoop replacement? Both Swoop and Sunwing are to be rolled into the Westjet brand.

Yes, that is my understanding.

What is interesting to see if which flights WestJet introduces to replace the Swoop flying. For example, before Swoop there was a regular Saskatoon-Toronto flight. That was converted over to Swoop flight. I would expect a WestJet flight to replace the Swoop flight. Same thing for YYJ-Toronto.

On the Sunwing side, it is going to be some time until they get merged in. I would assume instead of brining in aircraft from Europe and pilots for Europe for the extra Sunwing flying they would be using more WestJet. Obviously at some point in the future all the Sunwing flying will move over to WestJet.

caribb · #**16032** Posted **Jul 5, 2023, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

2 Canadian pilots on the inaugural EK flight to YUL this morning. 340 passengers on board. That’s a 96% load factor.

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/em...ign=20230705_montreal&utm_content=global

Emirates Chief Commercial Officer and two VP’s were on board the flight. Official pictures and videos with commentary from the VIPs at DXB, including the Canadian ambassador to the UAE, in the link below.

https://gulfnews.com/business/aviation/e...kes-off-from-dubai-to-montral-1.96784245

Considering the short lead up time to their first flight 96% is remarkable. Given how popular Emirates worldwide is I have high expectations this airline will funnel a lot of new traffic into Montreal. I’m curious how it will affect Qatar though, arguable an equal if not better carrier. Do you have any way to look into their loads for today or upcoming days? I’ll take note it is summer though, the winter is more telling.

thenoflyzone · #**16033** Posted **Jul 6, 2023, 12:42 PM**

No I don’t. My inside info for passenger loads is only with EK.

Considering how late EK announced YUL, I think QR’s loads this summer won’t be affected too much. As you say, W23 will be more interesting to watch.

MonctonRad · #**16034** Posted **Jul 9, 2023, 5:59 PM**

Recent busy evening on the tarmac at YQM.

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Very active YQM.

Photo from Facebook YQM Airport Spotting. I just cropped it to show a little more impact.

Dominion301 · #**16035** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 5:22 AM**

@MonctonRad, nice pic.

caribb · #**16036** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 1:18 PM**

I ageee. Nice pic! Who’s 747-400 is that? I presume it’s a cargo flight.

YYCguys · #**16037** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 1:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by caribb

I ageee. Nice pic! Who’s 747-400 is that? I presume it’s a cargo flight.

Must be one of Flair’s new aircraft?

caribb · #**16038** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 1:21 PM**

LOL, pack en in..

MonctonRad · #**16039** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 1:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by caribb

I ageee. Nice pic! Who’s 747-400 is that? I presume it’s a cargo flight.

It is. I think it's Kalitta Air. We have several cargo airlines flying into YQM using heavies (Kalitta, Atlas, China Southern and maybe one other). They mostly use 747-400s, but China Southern uses a Boeing 777. Most of this business is for the live lobster trade. The usual route is Moncton-Anchorage-various point in China.

Dominion301 · #**16040** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 7:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

It is. I think it's Kalitta Air. We have several cargo airlines flying into YQM using heavies (Kalitta, Atlas, China Southern and maybe one other). They mostly use 747-400s, but China Southern uses a Boeing 777. Most of this business is for the live lobster trade. The usual route is Moncton-Anchorage-various point in China.

Seeing the aircraft in the background, any idea how PAL is doing at YQM?