The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[new kid in town]

Originally Posted by jonny golden

Welcome! We're all also waiting for some big announcements! Hopefully soon.

Thank you!

Are there also plans about the city's roads? I know they plan to make a new street where the Indigo parking lot is between Westmorland and Downing, but what about in terms of anticipating heavier traffic due to the population increase? That's not even considering the potholes that are sooo bad.

[MonctonRad]

Found on CCD Canada:

SOCIAL HOUSING & CLINIC, MONCTON

CCD Ref. Number : NB169719-23-04

Stage : 3-Planning or drawing

Published : May 1, 2023

Starting Date (estimated) : Not available

Size : Mid-sized ($3,430,000)

Work type : New construction

Sector : Private

Category : 4-Residential

Subcategories : 4B-Residential Development

Disciplines : ARCH, CIV, ELEC, EQUI, HVAC, MEC-B, STRUC, OTHER*

Location :

MONCTON (NB)
(Moncton - Richibucto)

Description :
NEW ADDICTION CENTRE & CLINIC -
Located in Moncton, this project estimated at $3 430 000 is in the planning stage. Works concern the renovation or the new construction for an addiction centre and clinic, including housing units.

- Initiator: INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO SUBSCRIBERS

I'm confused. This sounds like the Salvus Clinic project which fell through several months ago, but this listing is updated as of May 1st. Has there been a change???

[MonctonRad]

Things are getting out of control in terms of student populations in the Anglophone East School District.

https://tj.news/times-and-transcript/102112312 (paywall)

The school board has just requested the urgent construction of four new schools in the district:

1) K-8 Moncton North (yes, another one)
2) K-8 Elmwood Drive area
3) K-8 Dieppe
4) replacement k-5 for Bessborough

This is in addition to the other recent asks that have yet to be acted upon:

1) anglophone high school for Dieppe
2) new anglophone high school for Moncton North
3) replacement for Forest Glen and Sunny Brae

And, this also doesn't include the recently approved K-12 anglophone school for Shediac, and the 5-8 school being built on the Bernice McNaughton campus!

Things are just nuts!!!

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Things are getting out of control in terms of student populations in the Anglophone East School District.

https://tj.news/times-and-transcript/102112312 (paywall)

The school board has just requested the urgent construction of four new schools in the district:

1) K-8 Moncton North (yes, another one)
2) K-8 Elmwood Drive area
3) K-8 Dieppe
4) replacement k-5 for Bessborough

This is in addition to the other recent asks that have yet to be acted upon:

1) anglophone high school for Dieppe
2) new anglophone high school for Moncton North
3) replacement for Forest Glen and Sunny Brae

And, this also doesn't include the recently approved K-12 anglophone school for Shediac, and the 5-8 school being built on the Bernice McNaughton campus!

Things are just nuts!!!

Would it not be cheaper and quicker to make additions to the Evergreen school & Northrop Frye?
Forest Glenn can be adjacent on site, and sunny brea can be built behind the UdM stadium. If you built those two new schools big enough and maybe make them both k-8 should that not negate the need for a whole new school in the elmwood area?

[Ifyoubuildit]

Originally Posted by josh_cat_eyes

Would it not be cheaper and quicker to make additions to the Evergreen school & Northrop Frye?
Forest Glenn can be adjacent on site, and sunny brea can be built behind the UdM stadium. If you built those two new schools big enough and maybe make them both k-8 should that not negate the need for a whole new school in the elmwood area?

Time to expedite opening the Vision Lands for development. Schools in the Vision Lands could service both the North end and Elmwood areas. Development could also be done properly for once with an overall properly executed master plan focusing on: medium-high density (vertical construction), allowing a lot more green spaces, incorporated trails and potentially pocket parks with possibly a central urban park. The land is flanked by major infrastructure that is already in place: Mapleton Road, Wheeler Boulevard and the Trans Canada Highway and it is within the actual urban boundary! The time is now to get this done.

[Riberview]

The province only had a $770million surplus this year.

Not sure where the school districts think Higgs will find the money for a school or four.

[Portalrules123]

Originally Posted by Riberview

The province only had a $770million surplus this year.

Not sure where the school districts think Higgs will find the money for a school or four.

Irving needs more tax breaks, don't you know?

[MonctonRad]

Gaps in Moncton housing supply include both large and small rental units, report says
Not easy for households with incomes of $90K or less to find houses they can afford, council told
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Jun 06, 2023 7:00 AM ADT | Last Updated: 2 hours ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-housing-report-rentals-affordability-1.6866414

A very interesting article detailing the shortfalls in the city's current housing strategy.

This morsel was interesting:

Wudrick said action is needed because city staff project Moncton's population to increase by almost 50 per cent by 2046, driven largely by immigration or migration from other provinces.

The CMA population is currently approaching 180,000 (171,000 in 2022). This means that city planners are anticipating a metropolitan population of about 270,000 by 2046.

Hold onto your hats!!!

[mylesmalley]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The CMA population is currently approaching 180,000 (171,000 in 2022). This means that city planners are anticipating a metropolitan population of about 270,000 by 2046.

Hold onto your hats!!!

To clarify, the estimates the city did were for the municipality, not the whole CMA.

Urban Growth Strategy - Preferred Growth Forecast

Big numbers nonetheless.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

To clarify, the estimates the city did were for the municipality, not the whole CMA.

Urban Growth Strategy - Preferred Growth Forecast

Big numbers nonetheless.

I was actually wondering that.

But, still, I would imagine Dieppe's growth will parallel (if not supersede) Moncton's growth between now and 2047. Riverview's growth will probably lag behind (as well as non urban portions of the CMA), but I still imagine the Moncton CMA will be at least 250,000 by 2047.

[adamuptownsj]

From an electoral perspective, Moncton is basically going to pick up an MLA in the 2030 boundary redistribution, and possibly 2 more in 2040. If my math is right, 2030 would see a North Shore seat move to Moncton, and 2040 would likely see a Miramichi seat and one of the 3 Moncton+rural seats move to the city proper.

Dieppe and Shediac growth could result in the current (Shediac+Cap-Acadie) + (Shediac+Dieppe) + (Dieppe+Memramcook) configuration end up overpopulated. Perhaps they move to an urban Dieppe seat, a 'downtown' Shediac seat, a Memramcook/exurban Dieppe/Cap-Acadie seat, and a fusion Dieppe-Moncton East seat.

Comparatively, Fredericton would be lucky to pick up a 4th unless they split the north side in half and attach it to rurals, the inverse of what we have now.

Saint John's 4 seats are pretty locked in. Eventually the Lower West will get shifted to Lancaster as the Eastern Charlotte seat will have to expand into the West Side. Harbour and P-S will contract as a stagnant Rothesay and SJ East absorb the difference.

There's going to be a lot of power flowing directly from rural Francophone NB directly to Metro Moncton, that's for sure. 2-4 seats will move directly from the North Shore, Miramichi, and Kent County to the city.

[MonctonRad]

Shania Twain taking a stroll in downtown Moncton.


Photo from the T&T

Two shows coming up this week at the Avenir Centre.

[MonctonRad]

Just interacting with a fellow development sleuth.

Apparently, according to his contacts, there are two additional tower cranes currently on order for greater Moncton.

Yet another indication the floodgates are about to burst.

[Leroy321]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Just interacting with a fellow development sleuth.

Apparently, according to his contacts, there are two additional tower cranes currently on order for greater Moncton.

Yet another indication the floodgates are about to burst.

Are they bigger cranes or just mini tower cranes?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Leroy321

Are they bigger cranes or just mini tower cranes?

Big'uns I believe.

[Photo1]

Well this would be something wouldn't it?

Hope the roadway infrastructure right there could handle all that extra traffic.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/residential-tower-30-storeys-moncton-1.6881886

[new kid in town]

Is there a separate thread that discusses Moncton's economic activity/trends, or info about companies that invest in or set up a base (as in macro, not just in terms of franchise or branches as in the retail thread) in the city? Or are they all included here?

Thanks!

[MonctonRad]

No. This thread is used for general discussions about Moncton, or, for anything that doesn't belong in any other thread. Feel free however to start a new thread if there is a topic of interest that you would like to discuss (and that you think is sustainable in the medium to longer term).

There are some [Moncton] threads that have fallen off the bottom of the list (inactive for more than 100 days). The [Moncton] Active Transportation thread comes to mind. You can find these if you broaden your search to include all threads from inception. Look at "display options" at the bottom of the page in the Main Atlantic section.

[new kid in town]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

No. This thread is used for general discussions about Moncton, or, for anything that doesn't belong in any other thread. Feel free however to start a new thread if there is a topic of interest that you would like to discuss (and that you think is sustainable in the medium to longer term).

There are some [Moncton] threads that have fallen off the bottom of the list (inactive for more than 100 days). The [Moncton] Active Transportation thread comes to mind. You can find these if you broaden your search to include all threads from inception. Look at "display options" at the bottom of the page in the Main Atlantic section.

Thank you! Much appreciated

[MonctonRad]

Apparently there was a brief Moncton city council session today with only two items on the agenda. This was one of them:

1. We approved the development of a feasibility study for possible convention centre space with CBRE Ltd for a value of up to $60,000.

I am aware that there is a plan floating out there for convention space as part of the Ashford/Downing proposal. Specifically, I think the plan is for "flex space" in the farmers market part of the project which can be used by vendors on a weekend or short term rental basis, but which can also do double duty as a convention space.

This would have no bearing on Ashford's mixed residential/commercial tower, but may be useful in beefing up the replacement city market part of the development.