The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Mattyyy

This might be far reaching - but could it perhaps mean a future for the old Moncton high school?

The building is sitting empty right now. I think it could be renovated and reactivated more cheaply than building a new school, and, it would have the advantage of actually being located in the downtown (rather than out by the Kent County line).

Good thought.

[David_99]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The building is sitting empty right now. I think it could be renovated and reactivated more cheaply than building a new school, and, it would have the advantage of actually being located in the downtown (rather than out by the Kent County line).

Good thought.

Has any of the demolding/renos been completed? There was talk of up to $40M in repairs needed to get the building up to code to maintain the old High School. Have at least the basics been completed with any further repairs being contingent on a long term tenant?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by David_99

Has any of the demolding/renos been completed? There was talk of up to $40M in repairs needed to get the building up to code to maintain the old High School. Have at least the basics been completed with any further repairs being contingent on a long term tenant?

I believe this is the case, but the memory fades............

It still wouldn't be cheap to reactivate the school though, but, there is a lot of apartment construction going on in the core, and, at some point, the government will have to think about putting a new school downtown rather than bussing students to the suburbs.

[MonctonianSentinel01]

Originally Posted by Mattyyy

That would imply growth of only 3,000 per year - well below the 9,000 people from last year. While I might not expect the Moncton CMA to continue at almost 9,000 annually - 3,000 seems low.

I can't remember where I seen it. I thought that I had read that about 4,??? came from international immigration while almost 4000 had come from mostly Ontario and British Columbia. That made most of the almost 9000 people increase from last year. IIRC we were getting 3000 something people a year in international immigration the couple of years before that (which made up most of our growth). Perhaps like MonctonRad said it is a lowball estimate, otherwise it doesn't make much sense, the reason being is because I don't expect this moving out east from other parts of Canada to really end or slow down soon. The secret is out, lots of land and houses for sale where people can have a good quality of life will continue to attact others from other parts of the country for a while yet.

[habs33]

Looks like the Prov decided against this
Province considered buying back former Moncton High School

Morgan Bell, a spokesperson for the province's education department, confirmed it considered "reclaiming" the building for a school.

"However, due to the significant amount of investment that would be needed to meet current educational facilities standards, this is not a viable option," Bell said in an email.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The building is sitting empty right now. I think it could be renovated and reactivated more cheaply than building a new school, and, it would have the advantage of actually being located in the downtown (rather than out by the Kent County line).

Good thought.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by habs33

Looks like the Prov decided against this
Province considered buying back former Moncton High School

Interesting.

They could still buy back the property, demolish the old school (except for the historic entrance, the auditorium and the gymnasium), and build a new school on site.

It remains a fact that metro Moncton is growing, and a significant portion of this growth will be downtown as new apartment buildings are built. There will be a need for increased school capacity in central Moncton over the next decade, and, large tracts of land large enough for school buildings and associated infrastructure will become increasingly scarce as this growth occurs.

The province may revisit this decision in 4-5 years time.

[MonctonRad]

Anticipating population growth, Moncton approves 10-year recreation plan
Plan recommends various new or improved facilities across city

Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Apr 04, 2023 7:00 AM ADT | Last Updated: 2 hours ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-council-recreation-plan-1.6799927

Among its specific recommendations are facilities for rugby, cricket and ultimate Frisbee, studying a new downtown library combined with a market and recreation centre, and exploring a new aquatics centre.

One main recommendation is for the city to study the need for new aquatics facilities. That study has already started, a step city staff said was in anticipation of the report's recommendation.

The report notes pools in Riverview and at the Université de Moncton CEPS are near the point where they will need to be decommissioned.

While Riverview plans to build a new facility, the report calls on the city to begin talks with the university.

"If the UdeM pool were to be decommissioned, the city would have an opportunity to explore the creation of a facility that simultaneously provides family play space as well as sufficient deck, hosting and viewing space for regional-level events," the report states.

The report points to growing demand for rugby, cricket and ultimate Frisbee facilities in the city. It suggests a joint turf with washrooms and changing rooms at the CN Sportplex(e).

The report calls on the city to commission a study of a downtown centre with a library, market and recreation centre.

It suggests the centre could include retail and social space, a field house, walking track, fitness centre and a public plaza with a performance and presentation space.

Another study is recommended to explore the feasibility, size and potential locations of a "multi-use outdoor adventure park" for activities like cycling, trail running, hiking, snowshoeing, fat biking and cross-country skiing.

As well, another study is recommended about the city's riverfront. It would look at establishing beach volleyball courts, a social and performance space, and some retail space.

Report sounds interesting. The city however is not bound to follow it's recommendations.

[MonctonRad]

Here is the link to the Recreational Master Plan for the city of Moncton (in case anyone wants to read all 166 pages).

https://www5.moncton.ca/docs/recreation-master-plan-phase-2.pdf

[MonctonRad]

From CCD Canada:

C. OF MONCTON, AFFORDABLE HOUSING

CCD Ref. Number : NB169406-23-03

Stage : 2-Planning

Published : April 3, 2023

Starting Date (estimated) : September 2023

Size : Mid-sized ($3,078,000)

Work type : New construction

Sector : Public

Category : 4-Residential

Subcategories : 4C-Multi Housing

Disciplines : ARCH, ELEC, EQUI, HVAC, MEC-B, STRUC, OTHER*

Location :

MONCTON (NB)
(Moncton - Richibucto) E1C 1G2

On the map : maps.google.com

Description :
NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING -
Located in Moncton, this project estimated at $3 078 000 is slated to begin in September 2023. It is in the initial stage. Works concern the construction of 27 affordable housing units.

- Initiator: INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO SUBSCRIBERS

[MonctonRad]

Another relatively ho-hum PAC agenda for the city of Moncton.

https://www5.moncton.ca/docs/pac/PAC/Apr_26_2023/1_Agenda_Ordre_du_jour_Apr_26_avril.pdf

[Leroy321]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I know what it is, but, just like the moderator on Retail Talk & Share, I have been sworn to secrecy as the proponent wants to make his own announcement.

The announcement should be public in the next 3-4 weeks. It is not for any sort of a huge building, so everyone can relax about that, but it does concern a significant new addition to the downtown core which will change the character of the neighbourhood. That's about as much as I am willing to say right now.

was this the Baton Rouge you were talking about?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Leroy321

was this the Baton Rouge you were talking about?

Yes. There is a $4.5M restaurant construction project mentioned on canada constructconnect.com which is slated for a fall construction start. I have suspicions this is it, but that is only a supposition.

[MonctonRad]

Report on immigration growth for the Moncton CMA:

https://tj.news/times-and-transcript/102102909 (paywall).

Highlights:

- the 5.4% growth rate in greater Moncton in 2022 is the highest growth rate seen in any Canadian CMA in the last 20 years!!
- Moncton CMA population increased by 8,800 in 2022.
- immigrants and non permanent residents account for 15% of Moncton's population, 12% of Dieppe's population and 7% of Riverview's population.
- there is 82% retention of immigrants after two years.
- 25% of immigrants to the Moncton CMA are francophone.

[Monctoncore]

What is happening in Moncton, population is booming, high demand for housing of all kinds and yet it’s been dead for months on new announcements for development

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Monctoncore

What is happening in Moncton, population is booming, high demand for housing of all kinds and yet it’s been dead for months on new announcements for development

It seems incongruous doesn't it.

There are a number of previously approved projects that are waiting to start, and also a number of projects in active construction. It's not as if things have ground to a halt.

I think there are several large high profile projects ready to be announced (Ashford/Downing Street for one). They are just waiting for all the i's to be dotted and the t's to be crossed. This is a complex process, especially when there are multiple parties involved. I think these large projects are using up all the oxygen behind the scene, explaining all the cryptic rumours of city development officers run off their feet. Meanwhile, smaller developers are holding off on new plans while they wait and see what's happening. There is going to be a serious shortage of tradespeople in the city for the next decade. This will make some developers think twice about starting anything new.

[jonny golden]

It's a good point about construction workers/trades people. If all the projects that we've heard about were to start this year, it's hard to imagine where they'd find enough workers.

St. Bernard's Square
Junction Urban Village
ICON next to Staples
Galco Robinson St. parking lot
Ashford south of Assomption Place
Corner of Main & Vaughan Harvey

And on top of all that, there's multiple other projects currently under construction all around the city as well as Riverview and Dieppe.

Of course it's great when these projects get completed so those workers can move on to the next one. And there are new classes of trades people graduating every year.

So hopefully we see at least some of the bigger projects get under way this year.

[new kid in town]

Hi guys, I've been lurking this thread for the past several months. I moved to Moncton about a year ago after living in Toronto for a decade.

Love the city and its people for the most part. While I'm happy to get away from the hustle of a huge city, I also find the growth of Moncton (and its skyline) exciting. I'm really excited about the Three Sisters construction, and the rumored 20-story building plans that might be announced this year.

[MonctonRad]

Welcome to the forums.

As I'm sure you figured out, there are over a dozen active [Moncton] threads, some neighbourhood specific, others project specific and a few topic specific (like the Retail thread). Make sure to keep an eye on them all.

Feel free to contribute anytime.

[new kid in town]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Welcome to the forums.

As I'm sure you figured out, there are over a dozen active [Moncton] threads, some neighbourhood specific, others project specific and a few topic specific (like the Retail thread). Make sure to keep an eye on them all.

Feel free to contribute anytime.

Thank you! I'm just right now discovering the other threads. I love reading all your updates.

[jonny golden]

Originally Posted by new kid in town

Thank you! I'm just right now discovering the other threads. I love reading all your updates.

Welcome! We're all also waiting for some big announcements! Hopefully soon.