Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by logan5

Vin, I presume you’re in your late teens/early 20’s, so I’ll give you a pass, but as you get older, bs propaganda is easy to spot. You’ll see.

I would actually assume people raised in the digital social media age would be better at spotting this kind of BS. Just look at how many boomers get brainwashed by Fox News and Facebook. Yet here we are. It's a weird mix.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Directed by... Aaron Gunn, director of Vancouver Is Dying; affiliated with BC Proud, the Canadian Taxpayers Foundation and the former BC Liberals.

Skip it unless you were already planning to vote for United. That's what he wants.

He was booted from the BC Libs/United because he was too far right. He's more in the PPC or BC Cons range.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

He was booted from the BC Libs/United because he was too far right. He's more in the PPC or BC Cons range.

I believe he is indeed affiliated with the BC Cons, or at least endorses them.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by chowhou

I believe he is indeed affiliated with the BC Cons, or at least endorses them.

He has endorsed and apparently worked with the BC Conservatives quite a bit, most recently in the South Surrey byelection when the BC Liberal candidate won with 51.7% of the vote, and Gunn's 'good friend' Conservative managed 12.7%, behind the NDP who got 30%.

[SpongeG]

has anyone seen the people with the flags and banners that stand on street corners in the suburbs mainly? seen them a few times in Surrey, they have a mic and speaker set up and banners about digital IDs and then some handwritten anti-Trudeau stuff.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Multiple governments from Mulroney to Chretien to Harper have dropped the ball on social housing and mental health/addiction treatment, problems which've now snowballed; JT shares much of the blame, but not all the blame, and it's highly doubtful that Polly Oliver won't make the situation worse; the BC provincial government is currently cleaning house at Atira, and there's detox facilities in the pipeline. The only people being led "ashtray" are the ones dumb enough to see this as a documentary rather than a prelude to another failed attempt at being the BC United party leader.

And it still looks like the various strategies are not only failing, but the overall situation is so much worse than before. Yet those in authority are still proposing more of the same ol'.

Originally Posted by logan5

Vin, I presume you’re in your late teens/early 20’s, so I’ll give you a pass, but as you get older, bs propaganda is easy to spot. You’ll see.

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I would actually assume people raised in the digital social media age would be better at spotting this kind of BS. Just look at how many boomers get brainwashed by Fox News and Facebook. Yet here we are. It's a weird mix.

Perhaps you would like to share some of your more "mature" thoughts? Pray tell where you find faults with what's shown in the video. Otherwise, who's to say you are not BS-ing yourself?

Originally Posted by chowhou

I believe he is indeed affiliated with the BC Cons, or at least endorses them.

You already showed us that Migrant_Coco is very wrong in his deduction. That's what happens when conclusions are prematurely made.

Originally Posted by Changing City

He has endorsed and apparently worked with the BC Conservatives quite a bit, most recently in the South Surrey byelection when the BC Liberal candidate won with 51.7% of the vote, and Gunn's 'good friend' Conservative managed 12.7%, behind the NDP who got 30%.

There are areas where the Conservative government can do much better than the Liberals or NDP, and vice versa. When it comes to the Woke culture in cities, I think certain Conservative policies work better.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Vin

And it still looks like the various strategies are not only failing, but the overall situation is so much worse than before. Yet those in authority are still proposing more of the same ol'...

... You already showed us that Migrant_Coco is very wrong in his deduction. That's what happens when conclusions are prematurely made.

There are areas where the Conservative government can do much better than the Liberals or NDP, and vice versa. When it comes to the Woke culture in cities, I think certain Conservative policies work better.

There wasn't any effort to increase low-income housing or detox/psych treatment capacity 15-20 years ago when it could've made a difference. There is now.

Yeah, I was wrong: Aaron Gunn's politics are more loony than I thought they were, and my point is even more correct!

The BC and federal Con-men don't care about anything that's not transgender bathrooms, abortion, hunting rifles, Chinese infiltrators, the WEF or antivaxxer rights. I wouldn't trust them to run a food truck, and neither should you.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by Vin

Perhaps you would like to share some of your more "mature" thoughts? Pray tell where you find faults with what's shown in the video. Otherwise, who's to say you are not BS-ing yourself?

The video has the same issues many of your posts on this forum do: it over relies on anecdotes and regards the past through rose-colored glasses. Canada (and Vancouver) have many problems, but they have always had problems, and to say either is dying is hyperbolic and lacks any nuance.

Originally Posted by Vin

There are areas where the Conservative government can do much better than the Liberals or NDP, and vice versa. When it comes to the Woke culture in cities, I think certain Conservative policies work better.

Take a visit to Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon, or any rural prairie city. Conservative governments haven't saved them from drugs and homelessness, although perhaps cheaper real estate and poorer weather means the unhoused are less visible.

If we want to talk specific policies, Poilievre's solution for repeat offenders is denying bail which is unconstitutional and would never be actually implemented.

[Changing City]

Here's a recently posted (but shot maybe two months ago) story from the CBC that looks at the drug supply issue (and a tragic story of how quickly somebody can end up on the DTES).

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Vin

There are areas where the Conservative government can do much better than the Liberals or NDP, and vice versa. When it comes to the Woke culture in cities, I think certain Conservative policies work better.

Conservative "policies" can change "woke culture"? How, pray tell?

Also please explain what "woke" means in your own words.

[whatnext]

The cancer is spreading. Met friends at Earls on Broadway & Fir (don't judge me ) this weekend. Across the street at Tim Hortons there was someone doing the opioid slump in their patio chairs. Totally folded in half. There was also someone in a sleeping bag on the park benches of the condo behind.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by whatnext

The cancer is spreading. Met friends at Earls on Broadway & Fir (don't judge me ) this weekend. Across the street at Tim Hortons there was someone doing the opioid slump in their patio chairs. Totally folded in half. There was also someone in a sleeping bag on the park benches of the condo behind.

Nah, Earl's is fine. Instead, I'm going to judge your naivete: that Tim Hortons block had people sleeping on public spaces since 5-8 years ago.

[chowhou]

Being worried about being judged for going to Earls is indicative of a seriously out of touch mindset.

"Oh my god girls, please don't judge me for wearing Banana Republic instead of my regular Gucci! I was at the gym!"

[WarrenC12]

whatnext has friends?

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Being worried about being judged for going to Earls is indicative of a seriously out of touch mindset.

"Oh my god girls, please don't judge me for wearing Banana Republic instead of my regular Gucci! I was at the gym!"

Well, perhaps in North Van Earls is considered fine dining, no doubt rivalled only by Cactus Club.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Well, perhaps in North Van Earls is considered fine dining, no doubt rivalled only by Cactus Club.

I can't honestly believe you're doubling down on trying prove yourself better than the common chaff by virtue signalling that Earls with its $120 seafood platters and $70 surf + turf is but merely despicable food for those plebeians amongst us with no dignity or self respect.

Talk about stuck up.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Being an elitist snob in the Pacific Northwest, of all places, isn't exactly something to be proud of - it just means that one isn't rich enough to move to Cali or the East Coast.

[LeftCoaster]

Sure it is... tell that to Bezos or Gates?

Guess they can't afford that LA real estate.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Plot twist: both Bezos and Gates have property in SoCal - where all the real "fine dining" on the West Coast is. Seeing as Bill prefers fast food though (and probably wouldn't give a rodent's backside about being seen at Earl's), it's kind of moot.

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Nah, Earl's is fine. Instead, I'm going to judge your naivete: that Tim Hortons block had people sleeping on public spaces since 5-8 years ago.

isn't that about the time when that social housing opened just down the street? I knew someone who lived near that building in a condo and he said it was awful now, so many more street people in the area and ambulances all the time and more noise etc. He was not happy with that building coming to the area.