Ugly Canada 2 (Only architecture, planning and design faux pas)

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Harley613

So much drama on this thread right now

That's it, buddy. I'm gonna come over there and kick your ass.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by esquire

$3.2 million for that. Utterly breathtaking. It's nice on the inside but I'm not sure that tasteful decor is enough to overcome the narrow boxcar-shaped layout, apparently non-existent backyard and frankly awful external appearance.

I mean, I could certainly live there and be happy. But that is certainly not what I'd envision for a $3.2 million price tag. Is that all-black sensory deprivation room where the kids are sent for punishment?!

I calculate that if you can house at least 100 South Asians in there, then the cap rate starts to make sense at $3.2M.

If only a double-digit number of South Asians can fit in there, then yes, it's priced too high.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Wigs

speaking of Niagara Falls tackiness and overpriced real estate, I thought this was a joke

Fugly 1,600 sq ft (+1000sq ft basement) $2-$2.5M townhouses backing onto a golf course in the older part of NF, the former village of Chippawa where James Cameron is from









"So this home has all modern amenities and features a Yoga room. Isn't that fun!?"


"Great backyard" where area teens will get high and drunk in the woods




https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/2...-niagara-falls


Do you have discriminating tastes like Carmela Soprano? Do you want to live where the wealthy I-talians live that may or may not be connected to waste management and hospitality/tourism?
6840 Mountain Rd might be for YOU!
$1,899,000
Do you guys remember The Sims? It looks kinda like when you extend your bungalow after getting a decent job in the game. The realtors take dumb braggadouchio to the next level.
• Video Link
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/2...-niagara-falls

Never underestimate the ancillary drawing power of leather pants.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by lio45

Is it just me, or do I distinctly recall googling which suitable meeting place would be conveniently halfway between Stratford and London not that long ago?

(Much more realistic than for Chadillaccc; you'd have had to meet in Manitoba...)

So glad I am not the only one who remembered the fight challenge issued to Chad!

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by harls

What I'm getting at is - why do you care?

I have to say I ask myself the same question about the hateful obsession some have over the Baldanus guy, Eddy Savoie of Résidences Soleil or any number of others targeted on here.

Why do they care?

Even if Baldanus was an asshole to MolsonEx when he worked for him, at what point do you get over this stuff?

I too once had an asshole boss. And it was in the "career" period of my life when I had way more responsibilities. It wasn't during my student Joe Job phase.

This guy caused tremendous problems for me in my life and if I hadn't been quick on my feet and probably even a bit lucky, I could very well have lost everything because of him.

But it's long over now and I basically never think about him. Even though he is a low level public figure in my region and his "endeavours" are still in my face from time to time.

So you guys will forgive me if I see these hateful obsessions as psychologically, socially and societally unhealthy.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I have to say I ask myself the same question about the hateful obsession some have over the Baldanus guy, Eddy Savoie of Résidences Soleil or any number of others targeted on here.

Why do they care?

Even if Baldanus was an asshole to MolsonEx when he worked for him, at what point do you get over this stuff?

I too once had an asshole boss. And it was in the "career" period of my life when I had way more responsibilities. It wasn't during my student Joe Job phase.

This guy caused tremendous problems for me in my life and if I hadn't been quick on my feet and probably even a bit lucky, I could very well have lost everything because of him.

But it's long over now and I basically never think about him. Even though he is a low level public figure in my region and his "endeavours" are still in my face from time to time.

So you guys will forgive me if I see these hateful obsessions as psychologically, socially and societally unhealthy.

It’s like the concepts of humour, and sarcasm and inside jokes and levity just sail right over your head. You call this obscure internet thread and its posts a societal ill and yet carry on for thousands of posts questioning the authenticity of trans people and downplaying the horrors of the Trump administration. Ok then.

[dleung]

^^Lol I was gonna say that, plus the thousands of posts about the "threat" of wokism and how bad BLM is

I too, wonder about the obsessions of only my political opponents - allies exempted of course!

[chowhou]

So uh, you got any more of them ugly houses?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

It’s like the concepts of humour, and sarcasm and inside jokes and levity just sail right over your head. You call this obscure internet thread and its posts a societal ill and yet carry on for thousands of posts questioning the authenticity of trans people and downplaying the horrors of the Trump administration. Ok then.

Guess I am severely underestimating the broad societal impacts across western civilization of an individual fast food entrepreneur in the western suburbs of Montreal.

Gotta work on that blind spot, I guess.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I have to say I ask myself the same question about the hateful obsession some have over the Baldanus guy, Eddy Savoie of Résidences Soleil or any number of others targeted on here.

Why do they care?

Even if Baldanus was an asshole to MolsonEx when he worked for him, at what point do you get over this stuff?

I too once had an asshole boss. And it was in the "career" period of my life when I had way more responsibilities. It wasn't during my student Joe Job phase.

If I recall correctly, Molson managed a McDonald's for numerous years before returning to earning his PhD and becoming a Prof so not exactly a HS student job for him. Dozens of employees to manage, not "fry guy".

[Wigs]

Escape to a world of indulgence and luxury in Niagara's most prestigious neighborhood, surrounded by stunning multi-million dollar homes and breathtaking countryside views. Immerse yourself in the charm of small-town living and the allure of world-class wineries, with 28 of them located right in your backyard. Start your day with a round of golf at one of the two nearby courses or choose from one of the many other courses throughout the Niagara Region. Then, unwind with a glass of wine from one of NOTL's esteemed wineries. With interior finishes customizable to your liking, you'll marvel at the soaring 10' ceilings, curl up next to one of the two gas fireplaces, and entertain guests in one of two kitchens. Take your private elevator up to the upper level, where you can relish the stunning views of the Toronto skyline from your balcony, and retire for the evening in your spacious primary room with an ensuite and large walk-in closet. The home is also equipped with two laundry facilities and two kitchens, making it perfect for accommodating two families.

Located just a short drive from historic Old Town Niagara-on-the-Lake, schools, shopping, restaurants, hiking & biking trails, and the Shaw Festival Theatre, this home offers both the tranquility of country living and the convenience of city amenities. Don't miss out on the opportunity to make this enchanting abode your own and select your finishes! Elevator access from garage to all three floors, creating wheelchair accessibility throughout.

This incomplete home can be yours for... $2,499,990
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/2...ra-on-the-lake

[rousseau]

Originally Posted by dleung

^^Lol I was gonna say that, plus the thousands of posts about the "threat" of wokism and how bad BLM is

That's hilarious. You wanna get ugly? Have a look into BLM's finances. If you can, that is. It's looking like the greatest grift in history.

On 20 December 2020, The Economist noted that $10.6 billion had been pledged to causes and organisations affiliated with BLM.

As far as I can tell, no comprehensive or even partial audit of what happened to this staggering sum of money has ever taken place. Indeed, given the sheer number of corporate and NGO players involved, conducting one would be incredibly difficult. However, taking a look at the experience of just one BLM-affiliated organisation – BLMGNF – could give us an insight into what went on more broadly. The foundation’s story is truly remarkable.

BLMGNF received more than $90 million in 2020, the year George Floyd was killed. According to the New York Post, by the end of 2020 the group had ‘an approximate balance of $60 million’ after spending $8.4 million on undefined expenses and costs, and committing ‘$21.7 million to local chapters’.

This is where the picture gets complicated. A group of 10 Black Lives Matter chapters known as the #BLM10, which includes the organisation’s sizeable New Jersey and Hudson Valley branches, publicly criticised BLMGNF in November 2020 over ‘financial transparency, decision making and accountability’. ‘To the best of our knowledge’, a spokesperson for #BLM10 stated in an open letter, ‘most chapters have received little to no financial support from BLMGNF since the launch in 2013’.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/0...sing-billions/

"Undefined expenses." Yeah, those words are doing a lot of heavy lifting here!

[Wigs]

Ugly new builds in Welland increasing in price again. Miltonization in full effect.

A Beautiful 2955 Sqft House W/Double Garage,10Ft Ceiling, Mainfloor Located At The Heart Of Welland ,The Best Community In Niagara Region. Bright And Spacious 4 Bedrooms,4 Washrooms, Convenient Upstairs W/D Room,Office At The Main,A Open Concept Living Room, Family Room, And Unfinished Walkout Basement Facing A Beautiful Water View. Take A Short Walk To The Trail Alongside Amazing Welland Canal. Two Minutes Commute To Walmart S.P.C, Canadian Tire,Rona & Hwy 406.**** EXTRAS **** Stainless Steel 32""Samsung Fridge,Stove,White Micrawave,Bosch Brand Dishwasher ,Elfs And ,Washer Dryer.

This can all be yours... for $1,249,900

Front door already has dents










Worst kitchen for a home asking for $1.25M I've seen









https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/2...iew-dr-welland

[thewave46]

Originally Posted by Wigs

This can all be yours... for $1,249,900

The extra $300k over the other guys gets you level front steps. No grass in the yard though.

The Barenaked Ladies couldn't afford here. They only have $1 million.

[esquire]

^ That one seems like a steal compared to the overpriced calamities you posted earlier.

EDIT: I looked at the interior pics. How does a 2,955 sf home look so cramped?!

[rousseau]

Originally Posted by esquire

That's it, buddy. I'm gonna come over there and kick your ass.

Discussion forums used to have meet-ups. Now we're talking about having punch-ups.

[TorontoDrew]

I don't find these FUGLY at all.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

I don't find these FUGLY at all.

They're asking $2.5M. I'd want a better design than that. Maybe Toronto pricing has clouded your judgement

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ That one seems like a steal compared to the overpriced calamities you posted earlier.

EDIT: I looked at the interior pics. How does a 2,955 sf home look so cramped?!

To those not from southern Ontario, here's a map showing Niagara's location and a police station map which basically corresponds with the municipalities most connected to each other

Welland is seen as the least desirable municipality in Niagara. It was formerly a mini Hamilton employing thousands in manufacturing, until most of the factories shut down and manufacturing jobs disappeared.
Now they're mass producing housing, and infills, and some new apartments/condos are popping up so it's growing like crazy.

The population was 44k in 1971. Didn't reach 50k until 2006 and stagnated until 2011.
It grew to 55,750 by 2021, and currently is around 58k in 2023.
Almost 1000 units of housing were built in 2022!

[esquire]

^ At those prices, who could blame them. I'm sure a lot of landowners must be making bank with their developments.