Highways in Canada - Page 502

dmuzika · #**10021** Posted **May 7, 2023, 6:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

I mean, the 4 lanes of Yellowhead Highway extend a bit east of Saskatoon to the bedroom community of Clavet (actually a bit east of Clavet, completed as recently as 2016), but that’s about it.

Ps: Yellowhead Highway’s substandard compared to TCH. For example, what kind of bypass is Yellowhead Highway around North Battleford? It’s like Lougheed Highway Haney Bypass in B.C.

North Battleford bypass aside, most of the twinned sections of TCH 16 are comparable to the equivalent sections of TCH 1, especially Saskatoon-Edmonton vs. Regina-Calgary. If they ever build the Lloydminster bypass, that would deal with the remaining traffic signals between the two cities. I've seen articles suggesting that TCH 16 be twinned through eastern Saskatchewan and Manitoba, but I don't think the traffic demand is there, especially when SK 11 functions as the alternative. If only the NE section of the Regina Bypass was constructed, creating a more direct freeway bypass for Hwy 1 E <--> Hwy 11 N.

itom 987 · #**10022** Posted **May 7, 2023, 6:42 PM**

It is amazing how many Saskatchewan license plates are visible on the Edmoton to Saskatoon portion of the Yellowhead. The license plates are already on 50% of the vehicles as soon as you head east of Edmonton's bedroom community, Sherwood Park.

dmuzika · #**10023** Posted **May 7, 2023, 6:42 PM**

Here's an article for calls for a TCH 16 bypass in Prince George; https://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/local-news/prince-george-needs-a-ring-road-mayor-says-6485240. TCH 16 still goes through downtown Prince George on surface streets, even though BC 97 uses an arterial/limited access north-south route.

swimmer_spe · #**10024** Posted **May 7, 2023, 6:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by itom 987

It is amazing how many Saskatchewan license plates are visible on the Edmonton to Saskatoon portion of the Yellowhead. The license plates are already on 50% of the vehicles as soon as you head east of Edmonton's bedroom community, Sherwood Park.

At 5 hours, this does not surprise me.

dmuzika · #**10025** Posted **May 7, 2023, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by itom 987

It is amazing how many Saskatchewan license plates are visible on the Edmoton to Saskatoon portion of the Yellowhead. The license plates are already on 50% of the vehicles as soon as you head east of Edmonton's bedroom community, Sherwood Park.

I remember my dad saying that on long weekends (especially Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.) Hwy 16 east of Edmonton would be a lot busier that to the west. There's also the Saskatchewan ex-pats in Alberta that have local plates.

Airboy · #**10026** Posted **May 8, 2023, 7:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

At 5 hours, this does not surprise me.

If the bypass around Lloyd was done and the minor changes in NB like a rail bridge were complete that would be a quicker trip.

Airboy · #**10027** Posted **May 8, 2023, 7:36 PM**

Last weekend I had to do a later afternoon trip to Vegreville. At least half the vehicles we passed or passed us were Sask.

SignalHillHiker · #**10028** Posted **May 14, 2023, 9:19 PM**

Work (replacing divider and lighting on Pitts Memorial, part of our ring road system, Highway 2) is continuing.

ryanaye · #**10029** Posted **May 18, 2023, 4:36 PM**

The new bypass section of Highway 104 (Marshy Hope) between French River and James River is now open in Nova Scotia. This should help with reducing fatalities along this horrible stretch, a number of people in Antigonish and Pictou counties know someone who has passed away from a collision along this highway. The drive through Barney's River Station is no more.

https://novascotia.ca/news/release/?id=20230517003

ConundrumNL · #**10030** Posted **May 18, 2023, 4:44 PM**

Fixed Link Between Island and Labrador Still a Priority: Dempster --https://vocm.com/2023/05/18/fixed-link-between-island-and-labrador-still-a-priority-dempster/

swimmer_spe · #**10031** Posted **May 18, 2023, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by ConundrumNL

Fixed Link Between Island and Labrador Still a Priority: Dempster --https://vocm.com/2023/05/18/fixed-link-between-island-and-labrador-still-a-priority-dempster/

If it ever gets built, my hope is it is a 2 lane plus the ability to add rail. This might allow one day rail to return to the Island, and rail extended along the northern shore of the Gulf. If this bridge gets built, part of the agreement should include the extension of Quebec Route 138 eastward.

thewave46 · #**10032** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by ConundrumNL

Fixed Link Between Island and Labrador Still a Priority: Dempster --https://vocm.com/2023/05/18/fixed-link-between-island-and-labrador-still-a-priority-dempster/

“We screwed the pooch with Muskrat Falls and got bailed out, how can we do that again, b’y?”

“Let’s dig an expensive hole to the mainland in the middle of nowhere!”

swimmer_spe · #**10033** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by thewave46

“We screwed the pooch with Muskrat Falls and got bailed out, how can we do that again, b’y?”

“Let’s dig an expensive hole to the mainland in the middle of nowhere!”

Would you say that the Confederation Bridge was a bad idea?

All major islands should have a fixed link to the mainland if possible.This is possible for the island of Newfoundland. One day, maybe something will be done for Vancouver Island too.

Dengler Avenue · #**10034** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Would you say that the Confederation Bridge was a bad idea?

All major islands should have a fixed link to the mainland if possible.This is possible for the island of Newfoundland. One day, maybe something will be done for Vancouver Island too.

Vancouver Island’s a bit different. I’d rather wait for the big one to happen first, assess the damage after, then decide.

Innsertnamehere · #**10035** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Would you say that the Confederation Bridge was a bad idea?

All major islands should have a fixed link to the mainland if possible.This is possible for the island of Newfoundland. One day, maybe something will be done for Vancouver Island too.

unlike the Labrador connection you can drive from Charlottetown to Moncton in under 2 hours.

To get to a Labrador connection you need 400km of new roads just to get to the bridge site from Quebec. The drive from Sept Iles to Corner Brook, the two closest largish communities on both sides, would be well over 12 hours.

From Quebec City to St. Johns? Probably close to 27 hours of driving in remote wilderness.

Nobody will be using it as the ferry will continue to be a lot faster for most trips.

swimmer_spe · #**10036** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Vancouver Island’s a bit different. I’d rather wait for the big one to happen first then see.

So, no bridge or tunnel should exist in that area? Better tell the people of Vancouver about all their bridges and tunnels.

Dengler Avenue · #**10037** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

So, no bridge or tunnel should exist in that area? Better tell the people of Vancouver about all their bridges and tunnels.

Short ones are okay, but one that crosses Straight of Georgia is too ambitious given the seismic activity.

swimmer_spe · #**10038** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

unlike the Labrador connection you can drive from Charlottetown to Moncton in under 2 hours.

To get to a Labrador connection you need 400km of new roads just to get to the bridge site from Quebec. The drive from Sept Iles to Corner Brook, the two closest largish communities on both sides, would be well over 12 hours.

From Quebec City to St. Johns? Probably close to 27 hours of driving in remote wilderness.

Nobody will be using it as the ferry will continue to be a lot faster for most trips.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Quebec+C...d-52.7452511!2d47.5556097!3e0?authuser=0

Currently, St John's to Quebec City is 30 hours.
A bridge to save 3 hours? That would be worth it.

Over on the Housing forum, we talk of people moving to smaller cities and such. A fixed link could help the island grow. Maybe we might see other more northern communities on the island grow. This might also bring in well paying jobs. It is not just about the driving.

swimmer_spe · #**10039** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Short ones are okay, but one that crosses Straight of Georgia is too ambitious given the seismic activity.

Some of the plans would see one around Quadra Island.

ConundrumNL · #**10040** Posted **May 18, 2023, 5:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by thewave46

“We screwed the pooch with Muskrat Falls and got bailed out, how can we do that again, b’y?”

“Let’s dig an expensive hole to the mainland in the middle of nowhere!”

Lol. Misguided mega projects are a key component of the NL economy.

The FL is something that's brought up every few years as a replacement for for the NS ferry. Nothing comes of it, except maybe a study.

It's a non-starter for several reasons. A few that come to mind:

- Quebec would need to link up the two ends of Route 138 to make using the FL over the Ferry practicable
- It would cause economic issues to anywhere west of Deer Lake (less traffic using the ferry)
- Route 430/Northern Pen Highway/Viking Trail would require substantial upgrading to cope with the increased traffic. A not small section of the which runs through a National Park.
- Removing the NS-NL Ferry will require a constitutional amendment