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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 10:00 PM
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I think it's more the commercial isolation and urban design that made the businesses in those locations do poorly rather than a CRU being along the water and in an actual shopping area, like Marinaside Crescent, or the Craft at English Bay. These are the only 2 locations I can think of that are on the seawall and have more than 1 or 2 CRUs.

The Japanese restaurant under Burrard you'd never know was there and that whole segment of the seawall is awkward as balls. The Beach Ave bike lane bypass was good for transportation but ya bad for business there as thousands less pass by now.
Bike lanes bad for business!? Don't let Hub hear you say that.

Ultimately, everything on the seawall is an "edge space". Defined by their geography they are not in the centre of anything.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 10:07 PM
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Bike lanes bad for business!? Don't let Hub hear you say that.
They're literally saying the Japanese restaurant was helped by the bicyclists on the seawall and taking them away was bad for business but never lose your cute confirmation biases. Bless your heart.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 10:24 PM
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They're literally saying the Japanese restaurant was helped by the bicyclists on the seawall and taking them away was bad for business but never lose your cute confirmation biases. Bless your heart.
Did you actually read GenWhy's comment?

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...The Beach Ave bike lane bypass was good for transportation but ya bad for business there as thousands less pass by now.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 10:27 PM
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Did you actually read GenWhy's comment?
You literally know nothing about the layout of that area, do you? Don't embarass yourself and take the L here.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 10:31 PM
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I think it can be interpreted both ways.

The Beach Ave bike lane is good as it's more efficient, as a transportation route.

The Beach Ave bike lane is bad for the restaurant as it diverted thousands of potential customers and bike traffic away from it. I mean it's closed anyway due to the 3 year-long renovation of that tree stump.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 10:33 PM
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I think it can be interpreted both ways.

The Beach Ave bike lane is good as it's more efficient, as a transportation route.

The Beach Ave bike lane is bad for the restaurant as it diverted thousands of potential customers and bike traffic away from it. I mean it's closed anyway due to the 3 year-long renovation of that tree stump.
Agree to both, the Beach Ave bypass is bad for the restaurant because it diverts traffic a block away and bypassess the restaurant.

He just wants a quick gotcha and affirmation of his own biases but I'm not having it.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 11:05 PM
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Agree to both, the Beach Ave bypass is bad for the restaurant because it diverts traffic a block away and bypassess the restaurant.

He just wants a quick gotcha and affirmation of his own biases but I'm not having it.
Don't you live in North Van anyway?
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 11:13 PM
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Don't you live in North Van anyway?
I regularly cycle in Vancouver and have ridden along this section many times. In fact, when was the last time you were in any of these areas? What authority do you have to say anything? Just drop it.
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If the city wants to put some life into the sea wall, I suggest that the Vancouver Aquatic Center would be a great place to start.

Also, under the Burrard Street bridge is a huge covered area waiting for something. Put in a skate park!
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If the city wants to put some life into the sea wall, I suggest that the Vancouver Aquatic Center would be a great place to start.

Also, under the Burrard Street bridge is a huge covered area waiting for something. Put in a skate park!
That parking lot is definitely too big for the amount of drivers who actually use it.
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New permanent plaza design coming to Robson and Bute intersection in downtown Vancouver

I am very excited about this. The temporary plaza is one the most well-used spaces in the West End that isn't a beach, the seawall, or Stanley Park. Breka could also use the extra patio space!
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New permanent plaza design coming to Robson and Bute intersection in downtown Vancouver

I am very excited about this. The temporary plaza is one the most well-used spaces in the West End that isn't a beach, the seawall, or Stanley Park. Breka could also use the extra patio space!
ya I'm definitely looking forward to meet with Staff on this to recommend tweaks at the Haro-Bute intersection. Have you seen the Robson, Denman, Davie street renewal planning out? Highly recommend seeing them at their Staff pop-ups this week.
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ya I'm definitely looking forward to meet with Staff on this to recommend tweaks at the Haro-Bute intersection. Have you seen the Robson, Denman, Davie street renewal planning out? Highly recommend seeing them at their Staff pop-ups this week.
Thanks for the note. I won't make it to Nelson Park this week but I'll keep my eyes peeled for the Robson/Haro pop-up the week after.
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Thanks for the note. I won't make it to Nelson Park this week but I'll keep my eyes peeled for the Robson/Haro pop-up the week after.
Also note that the Waterfront Plan is coming up for another round of consultation this Summer.
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...and in better news

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Vancouverties will once again be allowed to bring their own booze and drink outdoors at select plazas across the city — and this time, it won't just be for the summer.

On Tuesday, Vancouver city council approved the return of the public drinking program that started in 2020, this time expanding it year-round.

Beginning May 15, alcohol consumption will be allowed at the following locations until May 14, 2024:

* Cambie Street and 17th Avenue.
* Cambie Street and 18th Avenue.
* Granville Street and 13th Avenue.
* Granville Street and 14th Avenue.
* Lot 19, 855 West Hastings Street.
* Main Street and 21st Avenue.

A location at Maple Street and Fourth Avenue will operate from May 15 to Oct. 31.

Summer hours are from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. daily. As the season shifts into winter and darker days, plazas will operate from 11 am to 5 pm.

"Community connection and spaces for public life are so important for our well-being and quality of life. Having plazas that allow alcohol consumption year-round will help make our city more vibrant while supporting local businesses," said Mayor Ken Sim in a statement.

All participating public plazas will have access to automated public toilets or temporary portable washrooms, according to the city. It says the sites will be managed in partnership with local business associations and nearby restaurants in consultation with police and the health authority.

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I assume this is the "plaza" component and the "park" component is forthcoming? Personally can't wait to celebrate by illegally drinking at my local parks in the summer.
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West End Waterfront's 3 final drafted redesign proposals are up.

Big bikelane improvements and lane reductions for Morton, Beach, Pacific.
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Hopefully the City has a dedicated daily cleaning crew going by these areas once the drinking hours are over. Too many litter bugs in this city.
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Vancouver Park Board approves new rules for clothing at pools and drinking at beaches

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Beers at the beach are in after the Vancouver Park Board approved changes to its alcohol policy.

By a unanimous vote, commissioners approved adding seven beaches to the public places in Vancouver where adults over 19 years of age can drink alcohol.

Under the pilot project this summer, beginning in June, glass bottles will not be allowed — although the park board is looking at concession stands that would serve them in cups.

The policy will apply to the following locations:

* Spanish Banks
* Jericho Beach
* Lorcarno Beach
* Kitsilano Beach
* Second Beach
* The beach at New Brighton Park
* The sandy area on the south side of Trout Lake

In addition, the number of regular parks where drinking is allowed in Vancouver will increase to 40, with the majority of them open for drinking year round.

A smaller number will only be allowed for drinking during the summer season due to their location near schools.

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The hours for legal drinking are 11 a.m. to 9 p.m., and a full list of locations can be found here (though Barclay Heritage Square was removed from the list during Monday's meeting).

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Old Posted Apr 25, 2023, 7:02 PM
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Am I reading this right but are they only allowing it on the grassy areas and not the sand?! At least my favorite picnic spot is now legal
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