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Depends on the candidates that run. I know that Cloutier was re-elected in Alta Vista last time despite being an objectively bad councillor. He won with 30% of the vote because there were three qualified challengers who all split the vote.
A little off topic, but yeah, that was a close one. I was hoping one of the other candidates would edge him out, but it was not to be. He's done nothing to improve his image over this term, IMO.

Brockington, who also won a close race, I find has put in the work this time around.
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Reconciliation is a very murky concept. It is a process. The best we have is the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission but that is only part of it.

Part of the problem here is that nobody speaks for Algonquins as a whole. As a result, there will always be conflict. Just look a Zibi project. They negotiated with one group while other groups were opposed. In some cases, there appears to be jealousy. One band is getting an advantage over another but nobody would ever admit to that. So how is there a meeting of minds? It does not seem possible. This no different from the conflict that sometimes exists between band councils and hereditary chiefs.

Then we throw in the concept of a 'Colonial system'. This just adds to the confusion, because there is no possible resolution to something that has been in place since the 17th century. We cannot go back.

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Today's revelation proved that this never had anything to do with reconciliation. It was a sad, cynical political ploy by Watson to use the rhetoric of reconciliation when in reality he was just enriching his most generous donors (the Taggart Family) all along.
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Tewin is a project of reconciliation. We shouldn't have to constantly defend it

Wendy Jocko
Publishing date: Oct 13, 2021 • 27 minutes ago • 3 minute read


Several months ago, Ottawa Council approved a motion to include land owned by the Algonquins of Ontario inside an expanded urban boundary, creating space for a transformational new community called Tewin.

On Thursday, the city’s planning and rural affairs committees will meet jointly to review Ottawa’s new Official Plan prior to a full council meeting on Oct. 27. That Official Plan contains the 445 hectares of land that will become Tewin, making it a particularly important vote for the future of Ottawa as a growing, inclusive, future-oriented city.

Tewin represents a generational opportunity to create one of Canada’s most innovative and environmentally sophisticated new communities. It will feature the very best planning, consultation, design and development, all guided by Algonquin principles and teachings, while allowing Algonquin people to take their rightful place within the economic fabric of Canada’s capital.

But Tewin is much more than that. It has been rigorously planned, scrutinized and modified to ensure it meets or exceeds every standard — a process that has played out in a more transparent manner than almost any new proposed development in Ottawa’s history, given the intense level of public interest.

Under that scrutiny, the project’s technical viability and planning merits have consistently been reconfirmed by a diverse group of professionals including soil experts, servicing engineers, transit engineers and cost consultants.

However, as the city’s planning and rural affairs committee prepares to meet, The Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) once again find themselves forced to answer the types of questions that few others face, including about actual ownership of the land.

To be clear, we are the only recognized body by the governments of Canada and Ontario involved with negotiating a modern-day treaty on our traditional territory, and the opportunity to purchase Tewin lands resulted from the duty to consult required by the Ontario government on the sale of surplus lands within the unceded Algonquins of Ontario Settlement Area.

The AOO purchased the land at fair market value — land where we have long had a historical presence — in the hopes of creating one of Canada’s most sustainable, future-oriented communities, and as part of our effort to rebuild and strengthen our Algonquin Nation.

In order to develop the land, we entered into a partnership with Taggart Group, a company with a long and successful history of building innovative communities, and it is a matter of disappointment and astonishment to the AOO that we must continually defend our actions, our interests and our partnerships from those who seem to think we are incapable of making effective choices about our own land.

The AOO are partners with the Taggart family on approximately 70 per cent of the lands that make up the Tewin growth area as designated by city staff in the Draft Official Plan. Any lands owned by Taggart and/or the Algonquins of Ontario are part of this partnership, which ensures the participation of the AOO in profit-sharing, design and planning, and the development of a One Planet Living community.

It is paternalistic, colonial, insulting and frustrating to have to constantly defend ourselves, particularly since our partnership with Taggart Group is a shining example of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s Call to Action #92, which is the call to ensure that Indigenous communities gain long-term sustainable benefits from economic development projects.

Tewin is a bold project. We want to build something extraordinary that combines respect for the earth with the latest technology; efficient transit options with walkable community spaces; affordable housing and jobs.

We understand that bold projects should face intense scrutiny and we have welcomed and met that scrutiny at every stage of the development process for Tewin. But now is the time to move forward. It is time for us to put aside outdated colonialist attitudes which have no place in a modern community and focus instead on building a sustainable, respectful future where all can flourish.

That is the Tewin approach, and the Algonquins of Ontario — whose past and present is inextricably linked to this land — look forward to helping build Ottawa’s future.

Wendy Jocko is Chief of the Algonquins of Pikwàkanagàn First Nation.

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Tewin is a project of reconciliation. We shouldn't have to constantly defend it

Wendy Jocko
Publishing date: Oct 13, 2021 • 27 minutes ago • 3 minute read


Several months ago, Ottawa Council approved a motion to include land owned by the Algonquins of Ontario inside an expanded urban boundary, creating space for a transformational new community called Tewin.

On Thursday, the city’s planning and rural affairs committees will meet jointly to review Ottawa’s new Official Plan prior to a full council meeting on Oct. 27. That Official Plan contains the 445 hectares of land that will become Tewin, making it a particularly important vote for the future of Ottawa as a growing, inclusive, future-oriented city.

Tewin represents a generational opportunity to create one of Canada’s most innovative and environmentally sophisticated new communities. It will feature the very best planning, consultation, design and development, all guided by Algonquin principles and teachings, while allowing Algonquin people to take their rightful place within the economic fabric of Canada’s capital.

But Tewin is much more than that. It has been rigorously planned, scrutinized and modified to ensure it meets or exceeds every standard — a process that has played out in a more transparent manner than almost any new proposed development in Ottawa’s history, given the intense level of public interest.

Under that scrutiny, the project’s technical viability and planning merits have consistently been reconfirmed by a diverse group of professionals including soil experts, servicing engineers, transit engineers and cost consultants.

However, as the city’s planning and rural affairs committee prepares to meet, The Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) once again find themselves forced to answer the types of questions that few others face, including about actual ownership of the land.

To be clear, we are the only recognized body by the governments of Canada and Ontario involved with negotiating a modern-day treaty on our traditional territory, and the opportunity to purchase Tewin lands resulted from the duty to consult required by the Ontario government on the sale of surplus lands within the unceded Algonquins of Ontario Settlement Area.

The AOO purchased the land at fair market value — land where we have long had a historical presence — in the hopes of creating one of Canada’s most sustainable, future-oriented communities, and as part of our effort to rebuild and strengthen our Algonquin Nation.

In order to develop the land, we entered into a partnership with Taggart Group, a company with a long and successful history of building innovative communities, and it is a matter of disappointment and astonishment to the AOO that we must continually defend our actions, our interests and our partnerships from those who seem to think we are incapable of making effective choices about our own land.

The AOO are partners with the Taggart family on approximately 70 per cent of the lands that make up the Tewin growth area as designated by city staff in the Draft Official Plan. Any lands owned by Taggart and/or the Algonquins of Ontario are part of this partnership, which ensures the participation of the AOO in profit-sharing, design and planning, and the development of a One Planet Living community.

It is paternalistic, colonial, insulting and frustrating to have to constantly defend ourselves, particularly since our partnership with Taggart Group is a shining example of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s Call to Action #92, which is the call to ensure that Indigenous communities gain long-term sustainable benefits from economic development projects.

Tewin is a bold project. We want to build something extraordinary that combines respect for the earth with the latest technology; efficient transit options with walkable community spaces; affordable housing and jobs.

We understand that bold projects should face intense scrutiny and we have welcomed and met that scrutiny at every stage of the development process for Tewin. But now is the time to move forward. It is time for us to put aside outdated colonialist attitudes which have no place in a modern community and focus instead on building a sustainable, respectful future where all can flourish.

That is the Tewin approach, and the Algonquins of Ontario — whose past and present is inextricably linked to this land — look forward to helping build Ottawa’s future.

Wendy Jocko is Chief of the Algonquins of Pikwàkanagàn First Nation.

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/jo...ntly-defend-it
If the city was serious about both reconciliation and building better, maybe they should look into swapping city-lands with the AOO so Tewin gets built in a sustainable fashion. If the city paid for the remediation and gave them the land south of Hurdman, for example. Pay the premium today so we aren't paying tomorrow's premium.
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So most of the Algonquins' land is protected and will not be developed?
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the response from Wendy Jocko is valid and if they feel this is reconciliation, that is fine. The city certainly sees it that way. Taggart's loving it.

I still don't feel this is true reconciliation-they didn't even reconcile with their community in kitigan zibi but maybe they don't have to. This is a business deal and the AOO can enter into a business deal. Fine by me. But with that, comes normal scrutiny, including the optics under which it was approved. Because if it wasn't the AOO, taggart would not be developing those lands along piperville and thunder roads in the middle of nowhere. So, I would only ask, which development partner was the first landowner in that area and under which circumstances did the other get involved? Who approached who?
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Mayor maintains support for Tewin expansion
Lands are not primarily owned by the Algonquins of Ontario, CBC News reported

Kate Porter · CBC News
Posted: Oct 14, 2021 7:15 AM ET | Last Updated: 12 minutes ago




Mayor Jim Watson says the City of Ottawa should still create a whole new community called Tewin, even if most of that land in the rural southeast is now known to be privately held rather than owned by the Algonquins of Ontario group.

City council decided last winter that hundreds of hectares should be allowed inside the city's urban boundary so the Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) could pursue a major development — a vision of a sustainable, compact suburb. The treaty-negotiating organization's lands didn't originally make the cut, compared to other rural properties, because city staff had scored them poorly for being far from transit and other infrastructure.

At the time, council members and the mayor said they made the decision in the name of reconciliation and economic development for Indigenous people.

Earlier this week, CBC News reported that the Algonquins of Ontario Realty Corporation owns less than a third of the expansion lands that have now been mapped, while their development partner, the Taggart Group, owns nearly half.

Asked on Wednesday if he still felt the Tewin lands should be brought within the urban boundary, when the official plan is voted on Oct. 27, Watson said he did.

"Lots of projects around the city are developed with more than one proponent, and it's not always a fifty-fifty split," answered Watson.

"My understanding, from discussions I've had and questions I've asked, is that there's profit-sharing for the Algonquins."

The AOO and Taggart Group had told CBC News in an email theirs was a "true partnership" based in reconciliation and profits would be shared over all lands at Tewin, so the AOO would directly benefit from lands Taggart as well.

Algonquin community leaders and chiefs, however, have questioned how individual Algonquin people will benefit from the project. They still strongly oppose the project and council's decision, because they do not recognize the AOO or many of its members as "legitimate" Algonquins.

Watson said he expects the city to have a "fulsome discussion" on Ottawa's new official plan, and its Tewin lands, at an important joint meeting of the planning committee and the agricultural and rural affairs committee that begins Thursday morning.

That meeting is expected to last a few days, and the mayor said more than 80 people have signed up to give public delegations.

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'Do we not have the right to make (this) deal?': Questioned over arrangement with Taggart, Algonquin partners on Tewin development push back
"No Algonquins are going home with a pocketful of cash. All of the money is coming to the AOO realty corporation. The money will be managed in trust, and we will deal with our affairs subsequently.”

Taylor Blewett, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Oct 14, 2021 • 2 hours ago • 5 minute read


City politicians were rebuked Thursday for asking certain questions about the partnership between Ottawa real-estate group Taggart and the Algonquins of Ontario to build a new suburban community in rural southeast Ottawa, with AOO representatives suggesting they were being disrespectful and unfair.

The Tewin development has been championed as reconciliation in action. This factor featured prominently when council and committee members decided earlier this year to include 445 hectares for the new community in an expansion of the urban boundary, jettisoning other lands proposed for inclusion in Kanata.

Staff tasked with determining which lands should be brought inside the urban boundary to satisfy the city’s growth projections weren’t bullish on the Tewin site, but they did give councillors the option of studying it over five years to see if it could be developed as a new community.

The majority elected not to wait, with Mayor Jim Watson celebrating the decision as an act of reconciliation, and noting, according to CBC Ottawa reporting, that it would have been a “harder sell” if the pitch had come from any other developer.

Algonquin communities that aren’t part of AOO have been critical of the embrace of Tewin in the name of reconciliation at city hall. It’s their position that AOO doesn’t represent true Algonquins.

AOO represents 10 communities in land-claim negotiations with the federal and Ontario governments, with one — Algonquins of Pikwakanagan First Nation — that is federally recognized.

The scrutiny over the Tewin plan intensified this week with the publication of a CBC Ottawa story showing that the Taggart side of the Taggart-AOO project partnership owned the majority of the land in question. Prominent Algonquin elder Claudette Commanda questioned whether AOO was being used as a veil and to what extent “legitimate” Algonquin people would benefit from Tewin.

“It is paternalistic, colonial, insulting and frustrating to have to constantly defend ourselves,” Algonquins of Pikwàkanagàn First Nation Chief Wendy Jocko fired back in a opinion piece in this newspaper, calling the partnership with Taggart “a shining example” of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission call to action that involves Indigenous communities gaining long-term benefits from private-sector economic development projects.

At a joint committee meeting Thursday on adopting the new official plan and supporting documents, including the Tewin land, Jocko and Algonquin negotiation representatives from other AOO communities spoke of the good that Tewin could do for Algonquin people and the cause of reconciliation and the central role that Algonquin values would play in the creation of the community.

“Tewin is not just a business deal for the Algonquin people in Ontario. Tewin reminds us that we are home in our traditional territory and assures us that we can rebuild our meaningful presence on these lands and within the social fabric of the city,” Jocko said.

Cyndi Rottenberg-Walker, an urban planner and partner at Urban Strategies who is working on Tewin, said the community would showcase innovation and sustainability, be transit-oriented from the start and be “a fundamentally different kind of community than Ottawa has seen to date” in its integration with nature, density, mix of uses and housing forms.

Tewin’s owners are also “fully committed” to paying for its infrastructure and services, including transit. A lack of water and wastewater infrastructure and the absence of nearby public transit were among the reasons city planners gave the proposed Tewin area a low score when they were considering lands for inclusion in the urban boundary.

It was during questions from Coun. Shawn Menard that the mood of the meeting changed.

He asked which party, of Taggart and AOO, reached out to the other first. Algonquin negotiation representative for Ottawa Lynn Clouthier said it was the Algonquins able to acquire the land who reached out to Taggart, and, when Menard asked who contacted who ahead of the land purchase, Clouthier called the question “misplaced.”

“Is this a common kind of question that you would ask developers about their private business deal?”

Menard later returned to the subject, and Clouthier explained that the AOO had long been assessing pieces of land they could acquire, the Tewin land became available to AOO, and they needed a partner.

“Because, as you know, our land claim has not been finalized. So, basically, our assets are only potential,” she said.

“We are fully competent to be able to manage our affairs here, and we have had good advice, this is a joint venture, and the details of the venture are, in fact, private.”

Menard said he wasn’t questioning competence whatsoever, but wanted to know whether they thought Taggart would have had this land included in the urban boundary expansion if it weren’t for AOO. Clouthier said she couldn’t answer that hypothetical, and committee co-chair Scott Moffatt interjected to agree.

Asked how individual Algonquins in Ontario would benefit from Tewin, Clouthier said that depended on what they would be able to accomplish with their treaty and investments.

“No Algonquins are going home with a pocketful of cash. All of the money is coming to the AOO realty corporation. The money will be managed in trust, and we will deal with our affairs subsequently.”

Bringing up recent reporting on the division of Tewin land ownership, Coun. Catherine Kitts asked how much of the land would benefit the AOO and whether they had any concerns with the parcels included in the staff-recommended boundary for the development.

They don’t, Clouthier said, explaining that any lands owned by either of the partners are part of their partnership.

“Why it is important to you that you question the deal that we have made. Do we not have the right to make that deal?”

In emails to this newspaper, project media contact Jennifer Stewart said 100 per cent of the lands owned by Taggart and/or AOO are part of a partnership and profit-sharing agreement, the contents of which are confidential.

Coun. George Darouze, whose ward will host Tewin, apologized to AOO representatives for “unplaced” questions and said he wanted to assure them that “not all committee member(s) feel the same.”

Menard jumped in to say he didn’t think any disrespectful questions were asked. “Respectfully, I would not agree,” Clouthier said.

“Exactly, maybe to you it was not … portrayed that way, but, to others in the gallery, perhaps it was,” Jocko said.

The joint committee meeting on the new official plan is expected to continue Friday.

With files from Jon Willing

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Algonquins of Ontario face questions about private venture
Algonquins of Ontario first of 94 delegations as Ottawa's official city plan nears approval

Kate Porter · CBC News
Posted: Oct 15, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago


The Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) says its realty corporation will set up a trust for any profits that flow from a major proposed development in Ottawa's southeast end and it will extend the Greenbelt by adding swaths of natural areas it owns.

The group provided more details about its vision for a new, sustainable suburb in the rural southeast, and its partnership with developer the Taggart Group, while answering Ottawa city councillors' questions Thursday — although they said they felt some questions about their private joint venture were disrespectful.

Four members of the AOO, and their consultant, were first on a list of 94 public delegations signed up to speak to two city committees about the new official plan. Councillors are also set to debate the city-building blueprint and tweak it with motions, before voting on it in the coming days.

"Tewin means home," Wendy Jocko, Chief of the Algonquins of Pikwakanagan First Nation told the committees. "Tewin is not just a business deal for the Algonquin people in Ontario. Tewin reminds us that we are at home in our traditional territory and assures us that we can rebuild our meaningful presence on these lands and within the social fabric of this city."

Last winter, city councillors had decided to admit 445.35 hectares of the vast Tewin lands for urban development, even though staff scored them poorly and had suggested five more years of study. Other parcels were considered closer to existing city infrastructure and, thus, cheaper to service, but councillors cited reconciliation and then economic development for expanding to Tewin.

Last winter, Coun. Shawn Menard had sided with those who felt staff should study the Tewin area for years longer to resolve concerns about infrastructure costs and construction conditions.

At Thursday's final committee meeting before the plan goes for approval — and after CBC News had reported the Taggart family owns two-thirds of the land being admitted into the urban boundary, while the AOO owns less than a third — Menard asked if it was the AOO that had approached Taggart.

The AOO's Ottawa representative Lynn Clouthier, who is also listed as president of the Algonquins of Ontario Realty Corp. on its records, told the meeting that surplus Ontario land had become available under the province's duty to consult with Indigenous communities.

"We needed a partner because, as you know, our land claim has not been finalized. So basically, our assets are only potential," she said.

Clouthier then asked Menard if he asked other developers about their private business deals, and questioned his right to ask at all.

"We are fully competent to be able to manage our affairs. We have had good advice. This is a joint venture. And the details of the venture are, in fact, private," Clouthier told him.

Menard said he wasn't questioning the group's competence, but how individual Algonquin people will benefit financially at Tewin, a key concern for other Algonquin leaders who oppose the project.

Clouthier said it depends on what the AOO is able to accomplish with its treaty and investments, but the goal is to have a "rebirth of a nation."

"How does that filter down to any particular Algonquin? Only the future can tell," Clouthier said. "But no Algonquins are going home with a pocketful of cash. All of the money is coming to the AOO Realty Corp. The money will be managed in trust and we will deal with our affairs subsequently."

As for the lands themselves, the AOO's consultant from Urban Strategies called Tewin "the missing piece in your urban structure."

Cyndi Rottenberg-Walker said trunk sewers and highway interchanges already exist from the 1970s when the area was slated to be a suburb like Kanata or Orléans.

The area would be built densely from the beginning in order to support transit, she said.

Of the more than 1,600 hectares the AOO bought from the Ontario government, about half fall outside the urban boundary in what's called a "natural heritage system".

Richard Zohr, the AOO's negotiating representative for the Bonnechere Algonquin First Nation, said the group is proposing protecting 600 hectares as a "natural land trust connecting to, and expanding the Greenbelt."

There were questions about whether those natural areas would always be protected. Staff are proposing a late change in wording to the official plan to "avoid" development in such areas rather than to "restrict" it.

Planning co-chair Scott Moffatt said Tewin's natural areas are unevaluated wetlands that would need further study, and a designation by Ontario's Ministry of Northern Development, Mines, Natural Resources and Forestry would carry more weight than the city's.

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Seems like alarm bells all over the place among Ottawa City residents, among Algonquin people...?
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Neighbours aghast at 'deforestation' of Tewin lands
Algonquins of Ontario, Taggart Group say tree cleanup needed after the derecho

Kate Porter · CBC News
Posted: Mar 01, 2023 4:00 AM EST | Last Updated: 9 minutes ago




The partners behind the future Ottawa suburb of Tewin say they've been cleaning up brush and trees felled by last year's wind storm on a parcel of land just outside the urban boundary, but aerial images appear to tell a different story.

Drone cameras sent up first by concerned neighbours and then CBC News show a swath of about 70 hectares has been clear-cut in recent weeks.

No permit was issued to remove the trees, according to the city.

Neighbours told CBC News they'd been catching whiffs of pine in the air and hearing a low hum at night, but couldn't see any activity because of a buffer of trees along Anderson, Piperville and Ramsayville roads.

It wasn't until someone flew a drone over the area and posted photos on a community Facebook group in mid-February that there was widespread alarm and an outcry at a Carlsbad Springs Community Association meeting.

"It was just devastating," said Monica Brewer, whose family has lived in the area for about 50 years. "We're not talking 10 trees. We're talking hundreds and hundreds of trees."

The property north of Piperville Road is owned by the Algonquins of Ontario (AOO). It lies within the larger area in the city's rural southeast where the AOO and its partner Taggart Group have proposed a large community that would be rooted in Algonquin values and make Ottawa a world leader in developing walkable, sustainable communities.

City council ultimately voted to redraw Ottawa's urban boundary — the urban-rural divide that delineates where development can occur — to include some of the AOO and Taggart lands so Tewin could begin building.

The parcel where trees have been cut falls just outside the urban area and is labelled "unevaluated wetlands" in the city's mapping database. The land is also subject to the city's new tree protection bylaw.



CBC News obtained its own drone footage this week that confirms rural land has been cleared in a broad swath stretching between Ramsayville and Anderson, and north to a creek that forms the new urban boundary.

Hundreds of logs sit in piles, awaiting heavy machinery to lift them onto trucks. Smaller trees are arranged in dozens of tidy bunches.

Google satellite imagery shows the area had previously been covered in greenery in the summer months and included some wet areas. The National Capital Commission's mapping of the tree canopy also showed the property covered in trees.

The parcel was among the approximately 1,600 hectares the AOO purchased from the Ontario government in January 2020 under the province's duty to consult.

Wendy Jocko, chief of Algonquins of Pikwakanagan First Nation, said she was unavailable for an interview but explained by email that debris from the derecho in 2022 needed to be cleaned up.

"The area in question was farmed several decades ago, and since then, a mix of grass, brush and trees have grown on the agricultural land," she wrote.

"Of note, this area remains outside of the urban boundary, is not designated floodplain or wetland, and suffered severe damage last May as a result of the storm."

Jocko said areas with less severe damage were left as untouched as possible.

"We were advised by the contractor that selective cutting in the worst-hit areas was not possible for safety reasons due to the extent of the damage," wrote Jocko. "City of Ottawa staff were made aware of the clean-up."

When reached by phone, the contractor, Ottawa Cedar and Lumber Inc., would not comment for this story.

An emailed statement from Taggart Group's Michelle Taggart echoed Jocko's comments that the lands were formerly farmed and "shrubs, grasses and some immature trees" have since regrown.

"We were advised by our environmental consultant … that the bylaws allow for the removal of trees in preparation for farming in the rural area," it said.

CBC News asked the City of Ottawa on Feb. 24 for an interview to confirm whether a permit had been issued to allow for the destruction of trees and if city staff knew about the cutting ahead of time.

​"The city continues to review the matter. We can confirm that a tree permit was not issued for this location," wrote Don Herweyer, interim general manager of planning, real estate and economic development, in an email Tuesday.

The city's tree protection bylaw that came into effect on Jan. 1, 2021, states that "no person shall injure or destroy or permit the injury or destruction of a tree" over 10 centimetres in diameter on many private properties greater than one hectare unless the general manager has issued a permit.

The bylaw includes maps of many woodland areas on either side of the new urban boundary where future homes are expected — including the Tewin parcel.

Seven exemptions exist that would allow a tree to be destroyed without a permit, including if the tree "is an immediate threat to public health and safety" or "the injury or destruction is a normal farm practice carried out as part of an agricultural operation by a farming business."

According to Herweyer, city staff are currently "reviewing if a permit was required" in this case.

The South Nation Conservation Authority, whose watershed includes Tewin, has no jurisdiction over tree cutting and can only regulate wetlands that have been officially designated as "provincially significant".

When city council was debating whether to include Tewin as an entirely new suburb in 2020 and 2021, city staff warned they hadn't properly assessed soil conditions or natural features there.

Council's approval in 2021 hinged on a long list of studies taking place in the area.

What most upsets residents is that they received no warning of the tree cutting despite having been promised regular updates and consultation by the AOO and Taggart.

"When there's work to be done, the community needs to know ahead of time," said Adrian Becea, president of the Carlsbad Springs Community Association.

"It caused a lot of turmoil in the community. We don't need this in the community, especially for the duration of time that a development of this size is going to take."

Brewer was surprised the cutting took place in an area where neighbours didn't expect to see development for many years, because that land is not yet included in the urban boundary.

She said neighbours understood the development was going to go ahead and were interested in the promise of a zero-carbon community. (Taggart and AOO had promised to follow a framework called One Planet Living).

"It was supposed to be a very special project," Brewer said. "Before the environmental assessments are finished, the first thing that's done is complete deforestation. There's no words for it."

Jocko pointed out that Tewin is much larger than that parcel.

"There are hundreds of acres of mature forests in the Tewin area that will be protected and enhanced and will be a cornerstone of the Tewin community and its commitment to sustainability and environmental preservation," she wrote.

Taggart added her company and the AOO would keep residents better informed in the future, given the public's interest.

Other residents told CBC they expect the suburb of Findlay Creek to the west will inevitably spread toward the future Tewin.

Last fall, Ontario municipal affairs and housing minister Steve Clark approved expanding Ottawa's urban boundary in Findlay Creek, which would bring new homes to within three kilometres of the Tewin land where the trees were cut.

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Not a good look for a project that touted protecting natural areas. Obviously clearing the land was going to happen, but without a permit and presumably without butternut assessments and tree conservation reports is not a good start for the AOO/Taggart.
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Not a good look for a project that touted protecting natural areas. Obviously clearing the land was going to happen, but without a permit and presumably without butternut assessments and tree conservation reports is not a good start for the AOO/Taggart.
Historically, where Bear Brook crossed Piperville Road was known as Butternut Valley for its population of butternut trees. Butternut trees have been devastated by disease in recent years and healthy specimens should be protected.

I can't attest to this specific location, but the derecho storm did cause devastation in areas between Blossom Park and Carlsbad Springs. Some areas require clear cutting because most trees in certain locations were blown over and are unsafe to the public.
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The area looks pretty scrubby/swampy. Just what was on the land before?

It does look like one square of land was planted with scotch pine, typically planted to provide lumber. Is this what was cut?

Our scotch pine mono-culture forests are reaching a beyond-mature age. What should we do with them? Same question came up for the lands surrounding the airport. Do we just wait for them all to be snapped like matchsticks during future storms, or do we harvest them and encourage an appropriate forest through conscientious planning?
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The area looks pretty scrubby/swampy. Just what was on the land before?

It does look like one square of land was planted with scotch pine, typically planted to provide lumber. Is this what was cut?

Our scotch pine mono-culture forests are reaching a beyond-mature age. What should we do with them? Same question came up for the lands surrounding the airport. Do we just wait for them all to be snapped like matchsticks during future storms, or do we harvest them and encourage an appropriate forest through conscientious planning?
That is exactly what happened at the Conroy Pit Dog Park. A pine forest was planted back in the 40s or 50s and the storm came through and snapped large patches of them off. Likewise at Pine Grove (Davidson Road) and at the old Capital Golf Gardens just off of Bank Street south. Thousands of the pine trees snapped off.
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Historically, where Bear Brook crossed Piperville Road was known as Butternut Valley for its population of butternut trees.
Since Ottawa is at the edge of its range and butternuts don’t usually form forests they were probably cultivated or facilitated by indigenous people at one point as a food source.
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Since Ottawa is at the edge of its range and butternuts don’t usually form forests they were probably cultivated or facilitated by indigenous people at one point as a food source.
I just read up on butternut and unfortunately, this tree is destined to disappear from our forests due to butternut canker accidentally imported from Asia. This is nearly 100% fatal. The butternut range in Ontario and Quebec is constrained by soil conditions rather than climate. It grows in areas with limestone bedrock and will not grow on the Canadian Shield. This is why it does not grow much north of Ottawa, although it can be found along the Gatineau River even beyond Maniwaki.
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Tewin clearcutting needs to be explained, says committee chair
Ottawa staff are looking into farming intentions of Tewin owners

Kate Porter · CBC News
Posted: Mar 02, 2023 6:54 AM EST | Last Updated: 5 hours ago


The chair of the City of Ottawa's environment and climate change committee wants staff to explain how hundreds of trees were cut down without a permit at the city's future suburb of Tewin and what could happen next under the tree protection bylaw.

Capital Coun. Shawn Menard said drone video taken by CBC News shows that the Tewin development partners — the Algonquins of Ontario and Taggart Group — were doing more than cleaning up from May's derecho, as they have stated.

For several weeks, residents near Piperville and Anderson roads in Ottawa's rural southeast had heard equipment operating at night and had seen trucks carrying logs, but neither neighbours nor the community association had been told any work was to take place.

Drone cameras sent up first by concerned neighbours and then CBC News show a swath of about 70 hectares has been clear cut in recent weeks behind a buffer of trees.

Shortly after CBC News reported that story Wednesday morning, the city's interim general manager of planning, real estate, and economic development Don Herweyer sent city council a memo that confirmed staff were made aware of a tree-cutting operation there on Feb. 17.

By that date, residents had already been commenting on aerial photos of the area on Facebook.

"Clearly there was a breakdown in communications in terms of notifying the community, the councillor and staff about this work," said Herweyer.

Herweyer told council that a stop-work order had been ordered on Feb. 22 so city staff could visit the land to investigate.

In his memo, Herweyer related what the Tewin partners had also told CBC News: that they were cleaning up extensive damage from May's storm and that they felt bylaws allowed land to be cleared for farming.

He said city staff would continue "to determine consistency with by-law exemptions" under rules for protecting trees and for altering sites.

The tree protection bylaw states that a permit is required on the Tewin lands for destroying any tree greater than 10 centimetres in diameter, except if it is destroyed through "normal farm practice" carried out by a farming business as defined in the Income Tax Act.

The site alteration bylaw, meanwhile, states land can't be altered near natural features except for "the clearing or stripping of trees and other vegetation by an agricultural operation in order to return lands to agricultural production".

"It is one of the exemptions in the bylaw, in terms of agriculture activities, so we're looking to learn more from the landowner as to their intentions in that regard," Herweyer told CBC News after a city council meeting on Wednesday.

Menard says farming isn't an "intention" he's seen formally mentioned at Tewin before and he's asked staff about the fines that might apply.

The Algonquins of Ontario purchased the parcel from the Ontario government in January 2020, along with a few dozen other properties.

A year later, they made a successful pitch to the former city council to be included in the urban boundary to build a sustainable new community rooted in Algonquin values.

City staff then defined a smaller area the AOO and partners Taggart Group could develop first.

"We've seen too many examples in the past where developers can get away with this cutting down trees and paying a minor fine, if at all, and then having their way with that land," said Menard. "That needs to stop in the city."

He has asked city staff for a briefing at the next meeting on March 21.

The tree protection bylaw includes special, unlimited fines that can exceed $100,000. At the time the bylaw was drafted, staff said that was meant to "eliminate or reduce any economic advantage or gain from contravening the by-law."

Asked for his response to the cutting of trees north of Piperville Road, Mayor Mark Sutcliffe said he only heard about it after a long council budget meeting. Generally speaking, Sutcliffe said the city's bylaws need to be enforced.

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