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I wish Watson would have the balls to step up and to explain his thinking on this issue. He was quite vocal in supporting this until last week.
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I wish Watson would have the balls to step up and to explain his thinking on this issue. He was quite vocal in supporting this until last week.
Taggart haven't told him yet what his rationale is yet on the inclusion on these lands. Watch lots of posturing and horse trading tomorrow at the Council meeting on this issue.
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Council allows Algonquins of Ontario 'Tewin' site inside a new urban boundary
The Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) and Taggart want to a build a suburb called Tewin west of Carlsbad Springs.

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Feb 10, 2021 • 12 hours ago • 3 minute read


A new satellite community in rural southeast Ottawa created by the Algonquins of Ontario and Taggart Investments will be included in an expanded urban boundary, city council decided Wednesday.

Council’s job was to approve 1,281 hectares of land that would be brought into the urban boundary as part of the city’s growth management strategy in the next official plan.

But 445 hectares pitched as an isolated community based on Algonquin values have drawn the strongest public reaction.

The Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) and Taggart want to a build a suburb called Tewin west of Carlsbad Springs. They envision an eco-focused community of up to 45,000 residents developed with the guidance of Algonquin values and have vowed to pay for infrastructure costs, such as water and wastewater services to the site.

The Tewin land didn’t get included as a the staff-recommended site for urban expansion, but staff opened the door to the possibility of the site being established as a new community through a five-year study.

Instead, the joint planning and rural affairs committee last month voted to remove proposed expansion land in the South March area, combine it with expansion area that still had to be determined and immediately assign the total 445 hectares of land to Tewin.

Council on Wednesday accepted the recommendation with a 16-8 vote.

Voting in favour were councillors Tim Tierney, Jan Harder, Laura Dudas, George Darouze, Jean Cloutier, Jenna Sudds, Allan Hubley, Eli El-Chantiry, Glen Gower, Catherine Kitts, Scott Moffatt, Carol Anne Meehan, Rick Chiarelli, Matthew Luloff, Keith Egli and Mayor Jim Watson.

Councillors Jeff Leiper, Theresa Kavanagh, Mathieu Fleury, Catherine McKenney, Rawlson King, Shawn Menard, Riley Brockington and Diane Deans voted in opposition.

The updated official plan is scheduled to be considered by council later this year. Council’s decision on the official plan will be final, unless the minister of municipal affairs or a court steps in.

There were attempts by some councillors during the daylong meeting to delay the Tewin question.

Menard asked for a year-long delay, while McKenney asked council to reverse the committee’s decision when it came to the South March lands and send staff to review Tewin.

However, most of council clearly arrived at the meeting already knowing where their votes would go.

Gower accused council of avoiding making tough, bold decisions and saw no point in delaying a decision about Tewin. He won council’s support to make sure staff confirm the viability and municipal cost of the Tewin project.

“Let’s get on with the most important project we’re doing…for the rest of this century,” Harder, the planning chair, told council while backing Tewin’s inclusion inside the urban boundary.

Watson scoffed at the notion of delaying the matter for years.

“That’s really not leadership in my way of thinking,” Watson said.

On the other side of the vote, Coun. Diane Deans blasted colleagues for not listening to many Algonquin people who have warned the city about adopting the Tewin project as a signal of Indigenous reconciliation.

“This is poor planning based on a false promise of reconciliation,” Deans said, calling it “an embarrassment to our city.”

Algonquin communities that aren’t part of AOO, including several in Quebec, have criticized the city for allowing Tewin in the name of reconciliation. Those communities, which accuse AOO of not representing true Algonquins, don’t see it that way.

AOO represents 10 communities in land-claim negotiations with the federal and Ontario governments. Only one of the AOO communities, Algonquins of Pikwakanagan First Nation, is federally recognized.
Pikwakanagan Chief Wendy Jocko defended the AOO communities, both status and non-status, as being “real Algonquins” in a 10-minute videotaped message to council posted before the meeting.

The Tewin matter was just one of the big controversial issues in front of council when it comes the urban boundary.

Council removed the staff-proposed “gold belt” of protected agricultural land on the request of Kitts, who said the idea caused “undue confusion” in rural Ottawa.

Existing land designations already protect rural villages and agricultural properties and the gold belt proposal was just a manner of applying new terminology, city staff acknowledged.

There was a wrong perception that government was going to expropriate land in the gold belt to create something like a second greenbelt, council heard. Planning general manager Stephen Willis said it was a “communications problem.”

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Watson answered a motion yesterday was to ensure that beyond written commitments from AOO & Taggart that "that is part of any document going forward". And costs on the site are the obligation of AOO and Taggart, as it is in any other new community. I think he meant this motion:




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The Tewin development can learn from how Kanata was built
In a small municipality that could not afford professional staff, it was the early residents who took up the challenge. Hundreds helped plan everything from land use and transportation, to cultural activities, recreation and more.

Marianne Wilkinson
Publishing date: Feb 22, 2021 • 6 hours ago • 3 minute read


With the approval of city council, now is the time for the Tewin development near Highway 417 and Boundary Road to proceed, so it can become a special place in the city. Planning for an entire area is not new. Tewin has 445 hectares, providing the opportunity to create a full concept for development from the beginning.

That’s what happened in the 1960s when Bill Teron put together 1,295 hectares in March Township to create his vision of a new town of 60,000 people. He wanted to move from building homes to building a full town. So he built a model of the future city, his “Kanata Concept,” with residential communities, a town centre, a technology park and an open space country club.

Just as Tewin has agreed to pay for all services, Teron did the same, including being one of the first developers to bury all residential hydro lines. (Even now, Hydro Ottawa still has overhead lines on collector roads.)

Creating a new town from scratch depends not only on the initial broad concepts, but on the many details and modifications that follow over time. For Kanata, a small municipality that could not afford professional staff, it was the early residents who took up the challenge through KanPlan. It was exciting, hard work, but hundreds took part in planning everything from land use and transportation, to cultural activities, recreational programming and more.

Their work created the first 15-minute communities (which still exist) and is where now, 60 years later, residents still step up to ensure that any changes work. High-density housing is welcomed in the town centre area and the technology park is now the largest in Canada.

Tewin, with its unique property, has a wonderful opportunity. The owners can learn from what worked in Kanata and other new towns. They can also find out about why failures happened and so ensure that they don’t fall into similar traps.

They need to let community members, first those interested in the development and later those who live there, play a major part in what is built and how various uses can be easily accessible to all. They need to ensure that infrastructure includes community centres, retail outlets, sports facilities, schools, churches and more. These need to be there from the beginning so everyone can meet their daily needs within a 15-minute walk.

They need to help put in place and support community groups so these can provide the feedback that makes for better communities.

Every development has challenges and Tewin will have its share. So take the time to do it right. Once built, it will be there for a very long time. Don’t rely solely on professionals but undertake broad consultation, study developments elsewhere in Canada and the world and create partnerships.

In Kanata, from the beginning, the developer, the township and the residents worked together. Tewin needs to do the same. By listening to each other and considering ideas, they can best fulfil community needs.

Provide for all income groups in differing types of homes to make a complete community. Everything needs to be thought about in advance and provision made for it to happen.

Moving to Kanata years ago was a game-changer for our family as we were able to participate in its ongoing creation. Tewin can do the same for its residents. I look forward to watching as it evolves into another great place.


Marianne Wilkinson served for 29 years on municipal councils between 1970 and 2018 in the Township of March; Regional Municipality of Ottawa Carleton; City of Kanata and City of Ottawa. As Reeve and the first Mayor of the City of Kanata, she was the head of Council for nine years.

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Province questions including Tewin lands in Ottawa's growth plans
Ministry of Municipal Affairs tells city to double-check if project meets planning policies

Joanne Chianello · CBC News
Posted: Jul 22, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 14 minutes ago




The Ontario government wants the City of Ottawa to double-check whether creating the new Tewin suburb is the best choice for expanding the city, and whether it meets both the province's and the city's own planning policies.

The draft official plan was released last November, and in February council voted to include a whole new suburb in the rural southeast. The controversial Tewin project, proposed by the Algonquins of Ontario and Taggart Group, infuriated chiefs of Quebec First Nations after a joint committee backed by Mayor Jim Watson pointed to reconciliation as a reason to allow the new suburb.

Some councillors also questioned whether the lands, which the city's planning staff scored poorly, met planning policies and the city's growth goals.

Provincial officials appear to have similar concerns.

Last week, Ontario's Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing sent the city 33 comments on the draft official plan, the 25-year blueprint for how the city should grow.

The final comment was a reminder to the city that any property that is included in the expanded urban area must meet the province's planning guidelines, known as the Provincial Policy Statement, and that any new development can be supported by the city's own infrastructure system.

The province specifically references Tewin as a project that may not meet existing planning policies.

"For instance, the location of the 'Tewin Lands' does not appear to align with the City's goal of a 15-minute community or being within 2.5 linear kilometre distance (1.9 km radius) of any rapid transit," according to the ministry's feedback to the city.

"It is noted that these lands are distant from any LRT stations invested by the City and Province. Additionally, due to the proximity of the 'Tewin Lands' to Highway 417, future pressures on the highway (including for new interchanges) may result to accommodate the growth projected in the area."

The province goes on to say that the city needs to be sure that expanding the city to include Tewin is an "efficient" and "cost-effective" use of planning infrastructure.

The province has not recommended that that city remove Tewin from the draft official plan, but reminds the city to make sure it is "satisfied that the most suitable lands have been selected" to be added to the urban area.

The city is set to release its updated version of the official plan late next month, in advance of a scheduled three-day planning meeting in mid-September to consider the massive new policy.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...ions-1.6112100
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Province questions including Tewin lands in Ottawa's growth plans
Ministry of Municipal Affairs tells city to double-check if project meets planning policies

Joanne Chianello · CBC News
Posted: Jul 22, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 14 minutes ago




The Ontario government wants the City of Ottawa to double-check whether creating the new Tewin suburb is the best choice for expanding the city, and whether it meets both the province's and the city's own planning policies.

The draft official plan was released last November, and in February council voted to include a whole new suburb in the rural southeast. The controversial Tewin project, proposed by the Algonquins of Ontario and Taggart Group, infuriated chiefs of Quebec First Nations after a joint committee backed by Mayor Jim Watson pointed to reconciliation as a reason to allow the new suburb.

Some councillors also questioned whether the lands, which the city's planning staff scored poorly, met planning policies and the city's growth goals.

Provincial officials appear to have similar concerns.

Last week, Ontario's Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing sent the city 33 comments on the draft official plan, the 25-year blueprint for how the city should grow.

The final comment was a reminder to the city that any property that is included in the expanded urban area must meet the province's planning guidelines, known as the Provincial Policy Statement, and that any new development can be supported by the city's own infrastructure system.

The province specifically references Tewin as a project that may not meet existing planning policies.

"For instance, the location of the 'Tewin Lands' does not appear to align with the City's goal of a 15-minute community or being within 2.5 linear kilometre distance (1.9 km radius) of any rapid transit," according to the ministry's feedback to the city.

"It is noted that these lands are distant from any LRT stations invested by the City and Province. Additionally, due to the proximity of the 'Tewin Lands' to Highway 417, future pressures on the highway (including for new interchanges) may result to accommodate the growth projected in the area."

The province goes on to say that the city needs to be sure that expanding the city to include Tewin is an "efficient" and "cost-effective" use of planning infrastructure.

The province has not recommended that that city remove Tewin from the draft official plan, but reminds the city to make sure it is "satisfied that the most suitable lands have been selected" to be added to the urban area.

The city is set to release its updated version of the official plan late next month, in advance of a scheduled three-day planning meeting in mid-September to consider the massive new policy.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...ions-1.6112100
Well duh! But this must be a bureaucratic initiative. Can't see this government fighting against sprawl.
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Tewin community has been mapped, and affected residents are skeptical

Kate Porter · CBC News · Posted: Oct 06, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: October 6




Rural residents who live smack in the middle of what's slated to become Ottawa's next suburb remain perplexed as to why their area was pegged for urban development, and don't see how thousands of new homes can be built on the soil around them.

City staff have now identified the area that will form the suburb to be called Tewin after they met monthly with the Algonquins of Ontario — a treaty-negotiating body that includes Algonquins of Pikwakanagan First Nation — and their partner Taggart Investments.

The map and new urban boundary will form part of the new official plan, which is set to be approved by city council at the end of October.

After a pivotal council vote last winter, city staff were told to select the land for Tewin that measures about 445 hectares from a vast area in the rural southeast end.

Politicians decided to allocate the Algonquins of Ontario about a third of the overall 1,281-hectare urban expansion so it could embark on a vision for a sustainable community, but Quebec-based Algonquin chiefs argued this decision could not be defined as reconciliation, as politicians had believed. City staff also scored the area poorly.

The area, which stretches between Leitrim and Thunder roads and hugs Anderson Road, was found to be most suitable, according to the city's director of long-term planning Don Herweyer.

He told CBC News the area has the fewest environmental constraints, it sits near Highway 417, and could be serviced.

Piperville Road crosses the middle of Tewin's proposed area like a belt, and those who live along the country road talk of little else but the plan for up to 45,000 new residents all around them.

Monica and John Brewer were shocked by the "brash" and "sudden" decision to choose their area because they have to travel far for groceries, live amid natural wetlands and on soil that shifts, and just recently got their first bus route.

Monica's family has lived in the area since the 1970s and built homes there, and she says the Leda clay underneath poses problems. Neighbours have spent tens of thousands to repair foundations.

"I'd like some pretty fancy engineers to tell me, and convince me ... [how] a five-storey walk-up condo [is] not going to shift?" John added, referring to denser buildings required in a more sustainable new community.

Their neighbours, Kelly and Shannon McInnis, live in a newer home that had 2.4-metre-thick Styrofoam pieces installed along its foundation so the home would not shift.

The Algonquins of Ontario have said a team of experienced engineers confirm the area can be developed despite concerns raised at last winter's council meeting, including questions about soil conditions and earthquake risk.

Finding answers to such big questions requires more than the seven months since February's meeting, Herweyer says, but staff have come up with a long to-do list of detailed studies for council to adopt, which Tewin land owners would pay for.

The cost of taking infrastructure so far out is another big concern.

Officials from Ontario's Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing have said Tewin appeared very far from light-rail transit stations, and recommended the city ensure urban expansion follows provincial planning policies that require infrastructure be cost-effective.

City staff have now drafted a deal to sign with Tewin land owners to ensure "Tewin pays for Tewin" and new homes could cover costs through an extra development charge.

CBC News calculated the city has actually mapped about 800 hectares for Tewin, but Herweyer said that includes areas that aren't developable and only the 445 hectares approved by council will ultimately be built. The exact boundaries of Tewin also still need to be "refined" even after the official plan is approved, Herweyer said.

He also noted city council will have four or five more "touch points" before the land is developed.

"This is establishing the baseline and the principles of Tewin," said Herweyer.

Some Piperville Road residents say they're frustrated neither the city nor their councillor, Catherine Kitts, has informed or consulted them about the big plans for their area.

Kitts, who voted in favour of Tewin, said resident feedback has been mixed, but she was drawn by the idea of building a transit-oriented, 15-minute community with none of the problems of past suburban design.

"We're going to have to make sure the proof is in the pudding, and ask these difficult questions," said Kitts, who wants staff to assure councillors Tewin is viable and taxpayers will be protected.

Some of her constituents don't think the city will be insulated from financial risk.

"We're 60 years old. We're not children. We know these things are promised and then they're not delivered," said Monica Brewer.

"It's like when I get the phone call saying I've won a cruise. I don't believe it," Kelly McInnis agreed.

McInnis called last winter's city council meeting on Tewin a "political grandstand," during which politicians veered from the agreed process for choosing urban boundary parcels. He felt they should have listened to their own staff, who gave the Tewin lands a poor score.

"I have faith that potentially the provincial government, who has to green-light it, will sort of see the forest for the trees," he said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...plan-1.6195236
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This all baffles me. After a prior plan for a satellite city in the area was rejected in the 1970s because of unstable soil conditions, then we design our city to go in entirely different direction, here we go again. I don't know how this becomes anything other than worst kind of car oriented sprawl. We seem to say the right things, but we continue to go in the opposite direction seemingly at an accelerating pace.
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If Minto could build on the swamp that is now Avalon (albeit with some headaches along the way) then I think this is no problem
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This is an awful plan in every respect
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Agreed. It only ticks one box and even that is tenuous. Sprawl and speculation.
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Agreed. It only ticks one box and even that is tenuous. Sprawl and speculation.
I mean i know reconciliation is all about these no cost to us empty gestures but this while thing smacks of corruption as well. It's so shockingly bad planning
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I mean i know reconciliation is all about these no cost to us empty gestures but this while thing smacks of corruption as well. It's so shockingly bad planning
Funny how they throw reconciliation into this and then tell us how wonderful planning there will be when it is so distant from the city and from all our transit plans. And it is right next to the 417 so how can anybody be fooled that this will be anything other than the worst car oriented development. In the long-term, all I see are extra costs to service such a community. Our existing suburbs are dragging down the city and this is far worse.

They keep telling us that they are putting a round peg in a round hole, but we look at the peg and we all know it is square.
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Algonquins of Ontario is not the biggest landowner at Tewin
Analysis of property records found group's partner, Taggart family, owns larger area

Kate Porter · CBC News
Posted: Oct 12, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago




Hundreds of rural hectares have changed hands for millions of dollars over the past seven years along the country roads where Ottawa's fourth suburb will spring up, and the Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) group wasn't the only one buying.

Now that the map setting out the future Tewin community is public, and set to be included in the new official plan at the end of the month, CBC News has analyzed land parcels and found the AOO Realty Corporation is not the biggest landowner on the block.

That's raising questions, given the AOO was front and centre last winter during a critical debate at city council.

The group's vision for a sustainable community built on Algonquin values wasn't near transit or pipes, and had not been studied carefully by city staff. Yet, city councillors decided, through a series of motions, that Ottawa's urban boundary should expand southeast, so the AOO could pursue its bid to develop a whole new urban area from scratch.

Chiefs from Quebec-based First Nations decried council's move as "wreck-on-ciliation" because they view the AOO as an illegitimate body negotiating a treaty on their ancestral lands. Developers in South March, whose lands were taken off the table in favour of Tewin, also made a rare public statement saying politics had taken over the agreed scoring process.

In his concluding remarks to council on Feb. 10, Mayor Jim Watson said the AOO had made the city a proposal and sought a chance to create wealth for its people. He said there was no dispute the group owned the land — the AOO bought surplus provincial lands at market value and outside of treaty negotiations.

"The land is worth no more than what the AOO paid for it unless we give it the green light to be uplifted and developed," he said, telling reporters afterward the pitch would have been a "harder sell" had it come from any other developer.

Eight months later, however, an analysis shows land owned by the AOO Realty Corp. represents less than a third of what's being admitted for urban development in the city's rural southeast end. Included are approximately 250 hectares of the 1,624 it bought from the Ontario government in January 2020 with the goal of creating "one of Canada's most sustainable, future-oriented new communities."

Most of what the AOO purchased will remain outside of Ottawa's urban boundary — about half the hectares fall within a "natural heritage system" that cannot be developed.

Records show the AOO's partner at Tewin, the Taggart family, owns the most land on the identified area set out for Tewin: approximately 390 hectares bought between November 2014 and February 2020, plus more than 240 hectares just beyond what's currently allocated for the Tewin community.

The parcels of land don't fall under the Taggart name in a database of property titles and sales histories run by the company that operates Ontario's land registry, however.

They're owned by Anderson Fairlawn Inc. and 2595469 Ontario Inc. Corporate reports show a single lawyer each as director, although Michelle Taggart, Taggart's vice-president of land development, confirmed both are their companies.

Taggart declined an interview, as did Lynn Clouthier, AOO Realty Corp.'s president and Ottawa's AOO negotiating representative, but both answered emailed questions. Chief Wendy Jocko of Pikwakanagan First Nation, listed as the realty corporation's secretary, was not available for comment.

Despite owning a minority of the land, Clouthier said a profit-sharing agreement would ensure the AOO directly benefits from Taggart lands too. She did not specify what proportion of the profit the AOO would receive.

The partners met with city staff over recent months to help determine where the Tewin development should begin. An area between Leitrim and Thunder roads was selected, and the city's director of long-term planning knew the development would include a "blend" of AOO and Taggart lands.

Ultimately, only the precise 445.35 hectares approved by city council will be developed, not the block's creeks, wetlands, and hydro corridors.

The AOO says it approached the Taggart family in 2017 to be its development partner.

The family was "honoured" to be asked and was a "logical partner" because it already owned land in the area, Michelle Taggart told CBC News in an email.

The Taggart Group is listed as the AOO's partner on the Tewin website and it has been known to take part in meetings with city staff and councillors. The AOO says it has made clear it was in a partnership with Taggart in all materials provided to city staff and council.

But until now, even though the partnership has always been public, the split in land ownership between AOO and Tewin wasn't known.

On Jan. 25, when the AOO pitched its vision publicly and urged councillors to let Tewin lands inside the urban boundary — a request that would be granted later that same meeting by members of the planning and rural affairs committees — the AOO did not mention the name Taggart, nor its extensive land ownership.

"Our time is now," Clouthier told councillors at the time, as she, along with executive director Janet Stavinga, and an Urban Strategies consultant, urged councillors to let in the Tewin lands.

When asked by CBC why they did not have Taggart at the table or make clear whose land was involved, Clouthier wrote: "Our partnership with Taggart Group is a shining example of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's Call to Action No. 92, which is the call to ensure that Indigenous communities gain long-term sustainable benefits from economic development projects.

"It is paternalistic and colonial to position this partnership as anything other than reconciliation and a true partnership."

For her part, Taggart rejects the premise her company might have had lands admitted inside the urban boundary that likely would not have been without the AOO.

"What I find frustrating is that some people do not understand the opportunity we have before us to build a unique, first-of-its-kind, sustainable community founded on Algonquin values and place-keeping principles," she wrote.

Many Algonquin leaders, however, allege Taggart and the City of Ottawa are dealing with an illegitimate group that does not represent the Algonquin people.

"I don't buy it as reconciliation, and I don't buy it as an economic development venture for the Algonquin nation or the Algonquins of Pikwakanagan," said Algonquin elder Claudette Commanda, upon seeing the map.

Commanda said she has serious doubts about how profits from a major land development will flow.

Tewin has been "shrouded in mystery," Commanda said, and she said every answer raises more questions. She wondered how a treaty-negotiating group had nearly $17 million to buy land from the Ontario government. The AOO has told CBC it entered into an agreement with its financial partner, Taggart Group.

"The next question is, 'Who owns the land then? Whose development really is this? Is this the AOO as the veil and the true owner is Taggart?'" Commanda asked, adding the land remains unceded Algonquin territory.

"Taggart is going to develop it, and Taggart is going to make all the money out of this," she claimed. "And, at the end of the day, are there really any legitimate Algonquin people that are going to benefit from this?"

Commanda wondered whether the people of Pikwakanagan, or other federally recognized First Nations communities, will receive housing or financial benefit from Tewin.

"I say no, they will not."

CBC News asked Clouthier how individual Algonquins in the province would know and see how they benefit, but she did not directly answer.

"This project is an important recognition of the unique role that Indigenous communities can have in land use planning and development," she wrote in an email. "We are excited about what this development means for Algonquins in Ontario, both in terms of the opportunity to be able to call Tewin home as well as to participate in the socioeconomic life of this new community."

Tewin will also create training and job opportunities, she wrote.

Dylan Whiteduck, chief of Kitigan Zibi Anishinabeg First Nation near Maniwaki, Que., said "the real Algonquins are still upset about this."

Whiteduck, along with other Algonquin chiefs, called on council last February to postpone adding the Tewin development inside the city's urban boundary. Council did not, but promised a meeting with local chiefs and to inform First Nations communities when future steps for Tewin arise.

Whiteduck told CBC he's had neither meetings nor emails on Tewin, only on renaming the William Commanda Bridge.

He wants city councillors who voted for Tewin to "look in the mirror" and understand they are dealing with a group that has members whose Indigenous ancestry is being increasingly challenged, including by the leadership of Pikwakanagan itself, according to a recent CBC investigation.

"Taggart is guilty in this, as well," said Whiteduck. "They're the ones on the sidelines nobody wants to talk about because they're just the developers working on this. [They] too, they have to realize this is wrong."

"I don't think this is over by a long shot," he said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...ario-1.6207407
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Algonquins of Ontario is not the biggest landowner at Tewin
Analysis of property records found group's partner, Taggart family, owns larger area

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Now that the map setting out the future Tewin community is public, and set to be included in the new official plan at the end of the month, CBC News has analyzed land parcels and found the AOO Realty Corporation is not the biggest landowner on the block.

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This doesn't surprise me at all. I have a feeling that this won't matter to any Councillors who were in support previously.
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Great answers to legitimate questions.

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I find the CBC article on Tewin a bit damning. It is not at all the proposal I thought it was. Kitigan zibi probably should have been in the mix of this-anyone who knows anything about the algonquin community in this area understands that Pikwakanagan and Kitigan zibi are communities with shared family lines. They are in many cases quite closely related to each other. That one will benefit while the other doesn't is a rift that they themselves are creating which is unfortunate.

This just doesn't have the feel of the reconciliation development project that was presented and touted by the city.

That being said, they have the support of an Ontario Algonquin group and the project is in Ontario-though those borders are essentially meaningless to Algonquins.
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Good lord. This stinks to high heaven. I seriously hope Watson Club councillors take some heat over this.

Serious question: Does Watson (or #WatsonClub councillors) have a chance of getting re-elected on the sheer force of so-called "scandal fatigue"? I'm thinking this is something like a George W. Bush type situation where there were so many serious scandals every other week coming out that it was difficult to give any one of them the attention they deserved and so they sort of all started blurring together in the public imagination.
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Good lord. This stinks to high heaven. I seriously hope Watson Club councillors take some heat over this.

Serious question: Does Watson (or #WatsonClub councillors) have a chance of getting re-elected on the sheer force of so-called "scandal fatigue"? I'm thinking this is something like a George W. Bush type situation where there were so many serious scandals every other week coming out that it was difficult to give any one of them the attention they deserved and so they sort of all started blurring together in the public imagination.
Depends on the candidates that run. I know that Cloutier was re-elected in Alta Vista last time despite being an objectively bad councillor. He won with 30% of the vote because there were three qualified challengers who all split the vote.
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