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That's great, a real Concert-Mall experience.
I wonder about the acoustics though?
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Didn't they change the station area for something less ambitious in order to cut costs? Some other parts of their grandiose plans are probly going to be cut as well.
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Didn't they change the station area for something less ambitious in order to cut costs? Some other parts of their grandiose plans are probly going to be cut as well.
It went from this



http://vancouversun.com/business/commerc...real-see-cultural-hub-at-oakridge-centre

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I personally prefer the economized version because it seems more functional for actually protecting people from the weather if they are at street level. Not a fan of the Telus Garden canopy either.
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It went from this

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I personally prefer the economized version because it seems more functional for actually protecting people from the weather if they are at street level. Not a fan of the Telus Garden canopy either.
I think there were a few other designs in between those two. The top one, extending over the street (and supported by ????) was never approved, and it would have been surprising if it would have been acceptable to the City Engineer. I agree that the new design seems more realistic. Let's hope Henriquez have learned that they need to design canopies for the possibility that it might rain!
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One of the older concepts



A simple glass version of the transit plaza



The 2019 concept



https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-canada-line-station-gateway-plaza-concept

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The amount of cranes all lit up the same against the night skyline are quite the landmark already. I've noticed them from as far the Oak Street Bridge, Knight Street Bridge, and even as far south as the 91.
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I see in the first pic that the super boring/ugly three storey office buildings on the SE corner of 41st and Cambie are now totally demo'd. New building is Claridge House by Polygon.
While I am happy to see the old office building gone, the replacement tower is the most generic building one can think of.
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Drone footage of towers 1/2

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In the context of how tall suburban tower projects these days tend to be, the rental tower here seems so unremarkable even when topped out. It is good that it won't detract any attention from rest of the complex, but I think it will never fit within rest of the masterplan.

I also find it interesting how the NW side of 41St/Cambie got built with only midrises. Did Westbank buy their air rights to forever have Downtown views from Oakridge towers? Midrises feel odd when all other corners of that intersection will see towers deep into the lowrises.
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Wasn't W41st upzoned under the "Eco density" plan from years back? Well before Oakridge was designated a municipal town centre, which allows for much higher density in the area.
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In the context of how tall suburban tower projects these days tend to be, the rental tower here seems so unremarkable even when topped out. It is good that it won't detract any attention from rest of the complex, but I think it will never fit within rest of the masterplan.

I also find it interesting how the NW side of 41St/Cambie got built with only midrises. Did Westbank buy their air rights to forever have Downtown views from Oakridge towers? Midrises feel odd when all other corners of that intersection will see towers deep into the lowrises.
Most of those sites aren't that large so it would be hard to imagine anything of any scale being built on those sites.

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Wasn't W41st upzoned under the "Eco density" plan from years back? Well before Oakridge was designated a municipal town centre, which allows for much higher density in the area.
They were built under the rezonings permitted by Phase 1 of the Cambie Corridor Plan, approved by Council in 2010. The Municipal Town Centre designation was in the City's Regional Growth Statement in 2013, and the Cambie Plan was also before the Oakridge Centre application in 2013, (and that has also evolved with a totally altered design, and added height and density since it was submitted).

Two of the buildings on W41st opposite Oakridge Park are rental - the Leo Wertman Residence is senior's supportive housing, and the building to the east is the Oakridge Lutheran Church which they developed with a replacement church and community centre, and non-market rental units on the upper floors. That building in particular would be unlikely to have been developed much bigger - as jollyburger notes, it's not a big site.
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I think the podium along Cambie is now complete.
Weired how there is not a single window installed yet anywhere...

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I think the podium along Cambie is now complete.
Weired how there is not a single window installed yet anywhere...
The ship hasn't docked yet? Most likley China or maybe Korea supplying the glazing.
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The ship hasn't docked yet? Most likley China or maybe Korea supplying the glazing.
That’s actually exactly why I thought about it!
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2023, 6:53 AM
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Back in November it seemed like they suggested the curtain wall would start going up around March.

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The $4.5-billion project by Vancouver developers Westbank and QuadReal will end with 14 towers
Walking or driving by the corner of Cambie Street and 41st Avenue—the former site of the Oakridge shopping centre—you just know that whatever is going on behind the chain-link fencing and the shipping-container hoarding must be chaos.

Seriously: look skyward and there is a disorienting dance of a dozen tower cranes, all hoisting and swinging independently and somehow not banging into one another. At street level, an army of flag people are waving with equal gusto, warning off cars and cyclists and ushering through a ceaseless parade of cement trucks. In the morning, nearly 1,000 workers file in from the Canada Line or from vehicles dispersed across the neighbourhood. And when they all leave in the evening, the whole, burgeoning form looks like it has accumulated another layer of concrete and steel.

This is the largest construction project in Metro Vancouver, likely the largest in Western Canada. When it’s done, there will be 14 towers, rising as high as 55 storeys over the second-largest shopping centre in the region. There will be enough retail and office space (810,000 square feet of the latter alone) to qualify this as a second downtown for the City of Vancouver, and there will be some 3 million square feet of residential—including 2,300 condos (many priced at over $2,000 per square foot), as well as 587 units of market rental and 420 of affordable rental.

Add to that a 100,000-square-foot community centre, a kilometre-long running track, a two-acre “food hall,” and a nine-acre park with more than 1,400 trees (which is the number of trees calculated to have been growing here when Oakridge was still an old-growth forest). And this is all unfolding on a 28-acre site at one of the busiest intersections in town. Chaos.

Except for this: once you get through the gate—past the safety officer accosting people for having the wrong footwear or (horrors!) no safety vest—the place is an odd kind of sanctuary. I mean, it’s no Walden Pond, but, for starters, its weirdly quiet. Yes, there are trucks and cranes, along with the constant thrum of machine noise that drives the neighbours crazy. But there’s little shouting or banging. Turns out that it’s a lot less noisy to tie rebar (the steel rods used to reinforce concrete) than it is to hammer lumber.

Also—and this is obvious once you think about it—no one is running around. First of all, they can’t be; the aforementioned safety officers would have a coronary. But these are hourly workers moving at a measured pace. At least it seems measured until you try to keep up. Stumbling across a couple of feet of freshly tied rebar, wearing borrowed steel-toed rubber boots, I realize they’re actually sprinting.

Still, the key to output isn’t hustle so much as effective planning and methodical execution. It begins with a daily 7 a.m. meeting of site superintendents, but instead of three or four attendees as you’d have on a typical high-rise project, there are up to 40 of them. You have senior superintendents for the biggest buildings, assistant supers representing the trades and someone whose sole role is to make sure all those cranes keep not bumping into one another.

The meeting is a study in nonchalance. Everyone speaks just loudly enough to be heard by the general superintendent, who pumps up the volume if it’s an update for the whole group. Then, everybody breaks into task-specific huddles, which wrap with near-military precision as people disperse through the site, joining workers who have already resumed their tasks from the previous day.

Still, the scale is all but unfathomable. This is a $4.5-billion project, from Vancouver developers Westbank and QuadReal. The site excavation went into the ground five storeys deep, constituting 761,000 cubic metres of material; it took 54,760 dump trucks to carry it all away.

Now, it comes back. On the biggest day, contractor EllisDon poured 5,000 cubic metres of concrete in one go—that parade had more than 500 cement trucks. It was for a “raft slab,” the foundation of two big buildings along 41st Avenue. They had to book every concrete plant in the city, months ahead, and complete the pour on a Saturday when no other work sites were competing for product.

And that’s the easy part. Leigh Edge from Westbank says that all they’ve been building so far is “the skeleton”—the concrete bones. Now, crews are starting on major mechanical components, heating and air conditioning—“the heart and lungs.” And, soon, others will begin hanging the curtain-wall “skin,” mostly glass cladding. Then (and by this point, the number of workers on site will have almost doubled) they’ll fill in the designer interiors, installing everything from handmade Italian cabinetry to 1.125 million square feet of carpet (most of it from 100-percent recycled material).

All that will take some time. But Edge says that, by next March, “you’re really going to see something” as the exteriors take shape. And, by Christmas 2024, you’ll be wandering Vancouver’s most beautiful new park and frolicking through the entertainment and retail pleasures of the city’s second cultural hub.

With enthusiasm—and just a hint of equivocation—Edge says: “That’s the plan!”

Water In; Water Out
The stuff might fall out of the sky, but even in Vancouver water is too precious a resource to waste. So, Oakridge Park is going to dip into the 195-square-kilometre Quadra Sands aquifer to source water for everything from flushing toilets and washing Teslas to watering trees and gardens in the nine-acre mall-top park.

Actually, the term “aquifer” might make you think that Oakridge is perched over a big underground pool or cave; but it’s more like a vast bathtub full of saturated sand—the water in which flows beneath Oakridge from the highpoint at Queen Elizabeth Park south toward the Fraser River. Rather than relying exclusively on fresh water drawn and pumped from the North Shore mountains, 15 kilometres away, Oakridge will tap the aquifer, which, added to recycled stormwater, will provide 72 percent of the project’s non-potable water, breaking a North American record.

That still won’t quench the thirst for drinking water—or manage the kind of wastewater that won’t sit well on the greenery. For that, Westbank added:

2 kilometres of new storm sewers—6 feet in diameter
2 kilometres of sanitary sewers—2.5 feet in diameter
1.5 kilometres of water mains—12 inches in diameter
https://www.bcbusiness.ca/A-peek-behind-...on-project-in-the-former-Oakridge-Centre

With all the projects they've done for Westbank you assume Iljin is the supplier. Some shipment data from some other projects 76 Containers from Iljin weighing almost 600,000 gross weight kgs. Two small shipmnets from SHANGHAI HONG YU BUILDING MATERIAL and STELONG CONSTRUCTION CO., LTD.

https://www.importgenius.com/importers/nelson-burrard-holdings-inc

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This one is for Butterfly. I wonder why they were unloaded in Portland. Noticed other shipments getting dropped in Tacoma and Seattle as well.
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Date
2022-09-02
Shipper Name
Iljin Unisco Corp.
Shipper Address
275-1, Samhomulsan Building, Yangjae-Dong, Seocho Gu, Seoul, South Korea, 137-070
Consignee Name
Nelson Burrard Holdings Inc
Consignee Address
1067 W CORDOVA ST VANCOUVER BCV6C 1C7 CA
Notify Party Name
Bollore Logistics Canada
Notify Party Address
5200 MILLER ROAD, SUITE 2100, RICHMOND BC V7B 1L1 CANADA
Weight
17825
Weight Unit
K
Weight in KG
17825.0
Quantity
24
Quantity Unit
PKG
Measure
127
Measure Unit
X
Shipment Origin
South Korea
Details
17,825.0 kg
From port: Busan, South Korea
To port: Port of Portland, Portland, Oregon
Place of Receipt
Busan
Foreign Port of Lading
Busan, South Korea
U.S. Port of Unlading
Port of Portland, Portland, Oregon
U.S. Destination Port
Port of Portland, Portland, Oregon
Commodity
WINDOW WALL UNIT - OF WINDOW WALL UNIT (76101 0) INV NO.: ILJIN-220812_B_CA WINDOW WALL UNIT - OF WINDOW WALL UNIT (76101 0) INV NO.: ILJIN-220812_B_CA FREIGHT PREPAI D
Container
MEDU4491754
MEDU7778938
Carrier Name
MSC MEDITTERRANEAN SHIPPING COMPANY SA
Vessel Name
MSC LISA
Voyage Number
232A
Bill of Lading Number
MEDUK1565192
Lloyd's Code
9281279
HTS Codes
HTS 7610.10
https://panjiva.com/Iljin-Unisco-Corp/1499475

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Thanks for the BC Business story - cool info in there.
I just wonder how tapping the aquifer will affect strata fees and/or liability if something screws up in the future.
It's like having a private district system that may be expensive to maintain and operate.
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