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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 1:27 PM
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The points are fairly useless. The miles, segment, and spend is not for a status seeker.

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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 7:37 PM
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Today’s departure count: 54 including 5 sun flights

Today’s cancellation count (so far): 1 - AC to YTZ
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 8:10 PM
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Check out Flair's S23 aircraft scheduling and in orange where there are still holes to fill: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10e0BV3L96ueQCXtOgNZb3SQ417iB6S9a/edit#gid=1120481158
This is pretty neat. Did you put this together? Seems very time consuming!

Interesting that all of the YOW flights are operated by the YOW base except the YEG routing. Also, that Flair has an aircraft that literally just flies YYZ-YVR-YYZ on loop infinitely.

When you say "holes to fill"... what exactly did you mean? Seems like the YOW based aircraft's rotation is full.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 8:12 PM
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Nice to see that you finally got your forum name changed, and that you are still a regular contributor here! Cheers.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 10:57 PM
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Hey, thanks. I must credit our very own Rocketphish for the name help.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 6:47 PM
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Experts say the sun may set on Sunwing as the airline struggles to keep its operations afloat
Sunwing cuts half of winter flights from Saskatoon and all winter flights from Regina

Pratyush Dayal · CBC News
Posted: Jan 19, 2023 4:00 AM EST | Last Updated: 4 hours ago




Lindsay May always wanted a destination wedding.

She and her fiancé originally had it planned for February 2022, but postponed to January of this year due to the pandemic.

"I got my pedicure and had my hair and dress ready to go, but four days before we were supposed to depart on Jan. 2 of 2023, I found out through social media that Sunwing cancelled absolutely everything from Regina," she said.

"I went through the seven stages of grief in one day and had a couple of panic attacks, but we rebooked our flight for March 13."

On Tuesday, the Regina couple learned Sunwing had once again cancelled their flight out of Regina.

"Why did you even allow us to rebook and give us hope?" she asked.

Now, she and her guests are trying to rebook for a fourth time, this time through WestJet, as the $16,000 she paid for a wedding at a resort in Mexico is non-refundable.

"What I really want from Sunwing is for them to compensate for the time and effort of everyone having to go through this," she said.

"Sunwing has completely lost my faith in them. I never had a problem with them before but I will never fly with them again. Certainly I don't see anyone in Saskatchewan having faith and trust in them anymore."

May was offered an alternative of flying out of Saskatoon when her March 13 flight was cancelled, but she opted against it. That was a wise decision, as on Wednesday Saskatoon's airport confirmed that Sunwing would be cancelling half of its flights out of Saskatoon for the rest of the winter season.

Lisa Adams-Krahenbil was ready to go to Cuba with her kids after the pandemic delayed earlier plans, but a day before their departure the Sunwing flight out of Regina was cancelled.

"I don't understand why they have to cancel now. Sunwing is the only flight [from Regina] that flies directly to Cuba," she said, noting they are now flying out of Winnipeg.

"It was upsetting and frustrating. It's unfair that Saskatchewan gets cancelled. It was supposed to be the first plane ride and hot weather vacation for our kids."

The family had saved up for the trip, but now a lot of the money will go to travelling to Winnipeg and accommodations there before and after the trip, she said.

"I still have my doubts if I will reach Cuba on Jan. 27. I know travelling is not the best right now, but we have paid for our hot holiday and we will go."

CBC reached out multiple times to Sunwing for an interview on Wednesday. It did not grant one, but confirmed the cancellations.

A recent survey from Angus Reid Institute found that almost as many Canadian respondents blamed the airlines and rail companies (68 per cent) for the holiday travel chaos as blamed the weather (70 per cent).

One in three also pointed the finger at the federal government.

The survey also found a strong desire from respondents for more government regulation to protect consumers from cancellations.

The poll surveyed 1,611 Canadians and had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 per cent, 19 times out of 20.

"Due to all the disruptions in six months, the U.S. is considering re-regulating the business, but I don't hear similar noise coming from Canada," said John Gradek, an aviation expert and a lecturer in the aviation management program at McGill University.

"It's a failure on the part of Sunwing to understand that their schedule was a little too aggressive or optimistic."

Gradek said the Canadian government is being silent.

In a written statement Wednesday, the Office of the Minister of Transport said airlines are private entities that decide their own flight frequency and destinations, and "not at the direction of the government."

"Regarding WestJet's proposed acquisition of Sunwing Vacations and Sunwing Airlines, the Minister determined that the transaction raised public interest considerations related to national transportation," the statement read.

"The Minister takes this issue very seriously and is ensuring to consider and study all the public interest considerations that have been raised before providing a recommendation to the Governor in Council on the proposed purchase."

Gradek said Sunwing is now "thinning out its schedule" and pulling out of Saskatchewan to have a "half-decent chance" at keeping other destination flights running.

He said the airline assumed it would be able to bring in 64 foreign pilots like in previous years, but "the Canadian government did not allow those permits to be issued."

"[Sunwing] promised a lot more than they could. It seems Saskatchewan wasn't profitable for Sunwing," he said.

The airline said a week ago that it got 7,000 complaints tied to the 2022 holiday travel season. Since then, talks of a class action lawsuit against the airline have been brewing. Gradek said Sunwing's reputation has been tarnished and loyal customers are dwindling.

"Its overambitious holiday schedule creating a lot of animosity, and the loss of brand value in the Canadian marketplace due to its actions, will end up having them pay a price," he said.

"There's no way Sunwing can escape some loss of market share and value."

Gradek said the airline has 15 more days to address compensation concerns from its passengers before they can proceed to the Canadian Transportation Agency (CTA).

"But then those passengers will join the other 33,000 Canadians who are already in front of the CTA with complaints of not being compensated by the industry. It's a mess created by the industry."

Calgary-based independent aviation industry analyst Rick Erickson said Sunwing's decision-making has him at a loss for words.

"Sunwing has been profitable in the Saskatchewan market for a number of years and just to abruptly cancel services there out of the blue is out of rationale," he said.

Unlike in the U.S. where airlines got $25 billion in "outright grants," Erickson said "there were no grants" in Canada, but carriers like Sunwing and Air Canada took short term loans.

He said the future of Sunwing is "uncertain," as WestJet wants to buy the airline — hoping to tap into that Eastern Canadian market and Sunwing's owned resorts — but that decision may not be concrete until summer.

Erickson said other carriers like Flair Airlines are also looking to fill in the routes abandoned by Air Canada and Sunwing in Saskatchewan.

"Sunwing has a long uphill road to be the airline it was. It would be a shame to lose Sunwing," Gradek said.

"Unless something happens dramatically changing Sunwing's behaviour and its way of doing business, the sun may set on Sunwing."

With files from Daniella Ponticelli and Sophia Harris

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon...wing-as-more-disruptions-occur-1.6718375
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 11:34 PM
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This is pretty neat. Did you put this together? Seems very time consuming!

Interesting that all of the YOW flights are operated by the YOW base except the YEG routing. Also, that Flair has an aircraft that literally just flies YYZ-YVR-YYZ on loop infinitely.

When you say "holes to fill"... what exactly did you mean? Seems like the YOW based aircraft's rotation is full.
I can’t take the credit for this. It’s theoretically possible for the same aircraft to continuously do YYZ-YVR.

Today’s departure count: 56 - including 4 sun flights

Today’s cancellation count: 1
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 11:49 PM
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Surge of discount airlines making Canada's pilot shortage worse: experts

Amanda Stephenson, The Canadian Press
Published Jan 19, 2023 • Last updated 9 hours ago • 4 minute read


With their promise of cheaper fares and no unnecessary frills, a flurry of so-called discount airlines has burst onto the Canadian scene in the last few years.

But experts say the low-cost airline model is exacerbating an already existing pilot shortage that could become an even bigger problem for this country’s aviation industry in the years to come.

Start-up discount airlines — such as Edmonton-based Flair Airlines, Calgary-based Lynx, and WestJet subsidiary Swoop — have been rapidly expanding across Canada since the COVID-19 pandemic, — that there’s enough pent-up demand from budget-conscious travellers to support additional capacity.

While each operates slightly differently, the basic premise of a low-cost airline is that travellers receive stripped-down service in exchange for low basic fares. Things like carry-on and checked bags, snacks and beverages, and cancellation protection are all considered extras and must be paid for separately.

The jury is still out on which, if any, of these upstart airlines will survive in a crowded field. However, experts say the rapid proliferation of new flights and routes is putting pressure on the aviation labour market — including for pilots.

“If I have a new airline that starts up with 10 airplanes, I theoretically need about 200 pilots,” said Mike Doiron, president of Moncton, N.B.-based Doiron Aviation Consulting.

“And getting new pilots trained doesn’t happen overnight, even though the demand for pilots has skyrocketed.”

A pilot shortage has been brewing in Canada for years, based on a variety of factors including an aging workforce, pandemic-related layoffs and early retirements, and spiralling training costs. (Becoming a commercial pilot can now cost upwards of $100,000, discouraging some young people from entering the profession, experts say).

Last week, vacation airline Sunwing blamed its spate of holiday season flight disruptions and cancellations in part on a pilot shortage, telling the federal transport committee that the government’s decision to deny the airline’s recent application to hire 63 temporary foreign workers (TFW) for pilot roles impacted its ability to deliver service.

Tim Perry — president of the Canadian division of the Air Line Pilots Association, the union that represents pilots at a number of Canadian airlines, including WestJet and Transat (but not Sunwing) — said that argument is “absurd.” He said he doesn’t believe any Canadian airline that compensates its pilots appropriately should need to hire TFWs.

However, Perry said there are real labour challenges in the aviation industry. He said flight schools, northern and regional airlines in particular are struggling to recruit certified pilots, in part because new carriers are hiring pilots who otherwise would have gone to work at some of these smaller operators. And because discount carriers don’t pay as well as Air Canada or WestJet, lower-cost airlines also struggle with retention.

“They are introducing a ton of capacity onto the market, at low cost, and it’s added to the draw on pilots,” Perry said.

“But those entry level jobs (at discount carriers) historically have not been career destinations. So those airlines end up with a higher training burden per unit of productive flying.”

None of the airlines contacted by The Canadian Press were willing to speak about the current state of the pilot labour market, nor was the National Airlines Council of Canada industry group.

But a 2018 report by the Canadian Council for Aviation and Aerospace said that a third of flight operators in this country at that time cited pilots as their biggest skills shortage. The report said the need for experienced pilots is beginning to outpace the available national supply, and projected the industry will need an additional 7,300 pilots by 2025.

“There’s only maybe 15,000 to 20,000 pilots in the entire system right now, so that’s a pretty significant number,” Doiron said.

He added that some small airlines are already lowering their hiring standards — reducing the amount of flying hours they would normally require a pilot to have, or considering applicants who don’t have university degrees — in order to be competitive in the labour market.

While pilots will always have to meet the minimum training requirements set by Transport Canada, Doiron said, a worsening pilot shortage in future will mean less experience in the cockpit. In addition, he said, it could lead to a long-term increase in the number of flight disruptions and cancellations travellers experience as airlines struggle with scheduling and labour.

“The shortage of qualified, experienced personnel is really going to put the whole industry upside down for the next little while,” Doiron said.

“I’m glad I’m not running an airline right now, because it’s going to be a tough five to 10 years, I would suggest.”

Among the startup airlines that have added capacity since the COVID-19 pandemic are Flair Airlines, which has expanded aggressively to serve more than 30 destinations in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico; Lynx, which says it will be offering 5,292 seats per week to and from the United States from its Toronto and Calgary hubs as of February; and Canada Jetlines, which launched in September with twice weekly flights between Toronto and Calgary.

Toronto-based Porter Airlines is also launching new routes, and says it has up to 100 new aircraft on order which will give it the ability to operate across Canada, the U.S., Mexico, and the Caribbean.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Jan. 19, 2023.

https://ottawacitizen.com/pmn/travel-pmn...wcm/bc605bc2-3001-4edc-bc1e-27b72c74b8ab
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2023, 3:29 AM
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Today’s departure count: 52 - including 12 sun flights

Today’s cancellation count (so far): 1 - what do you know, AC to YTZ
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2023, 3:51 AM
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YOW's December 2022 and year-end pax numbers are out. Just shy of 3M pax = 1996 traffic levels.

Sector / Dec-21 / Dec-22 / % Change
Dom: 165,898 / 235,732 / +42.1%
TB: 7,292 / 38,258 / +424.7%
Int'l: 11,955 / 34,505 / +188.6% - This total = international sun fully recovered vs 2019 minus LHR
TTL: 185,145 / 308,495 / +66.6%

Sector / YTD 2021 / YTD 2022 / % Change
Dom: 1,143,950 / 2,708,999 / +136.8%
TB: 11,242 / 190,335 / +1,593.1%
Int'l: 15,597 / 93,000 / +496.3%
TTL: 1,170,789 / 2,992,334 / +155.6%

Month-Over-Month Change
Sector / Nov-22 / Dec-22 / % Change
Dom: 228,252 / 235,732 / +3.3%
TB: 27,541 / 38,258 / +38.9%
Int'l: 15,773 / 34,505 / +118.8%
TTL: 271,566 / 308,495 / +13.6%
Avg/Day: 9,052 / 9,951 / +9.9%
% of month's 2019 traffic (2019 = 13,990/day) = 71.1% + 6.4% vs November
Year-End TTL vs 2019 = 58.6%

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2020
Dom: 2,708,999 / +162.5%
TB: 190,335 / +16.7%
Int'l: 93,000 / -44.8%
TTL: 2,992,334 / +119.5%
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2023, 10:40 PM
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Porter was doing a couple, what I presume were, training flights today on the E2.

Landing back at YOW shortly

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Old Posted Jan 22, 2023, 2:59 PM
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Today’s departure count: 62 - including 8 sun flights

Today’s cancellation count (so far): 0
     
     
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If Air Canada ever lost your luggage:
"... Air Canada had allegedly donated their suitcase to a charity"
https://www.blogto.com/travel/2023/01/on...gage-shocked-air-canada-gave-it-charity/
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2023, 2:44 PM
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If Air Canada ever lost your luggage:
"... Air Canada had allegedly donated their suitcase to a charity"
https://www.blogto.com/travel/2023/01/on...gage-shocked-air-canada-gave-it-charity/
That's terrible...not to mention criminal on AC's part.

Today's departure count: 59 - including 6 sun flights

Today's cancellation count (so far): 0
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2023, 4:07 PM
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Wonder if they end up launching a co-branded credit card at some point with one of the big five banks. Currently with TD/Aeroplan but could definitely be enticed to make the switch.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2023, 8:00 PM
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Porter's Network Map with planned destinations
Ottawa is a hub, hopefully we can get some good options from here:

     
     
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Porter's Network Map with planned destinations
Ottawa is a hub, hopefully we can get some good options from here:
They’re going to start in YYZ and with domestic destinations no doubt. Hopefully though we’ll see something for us this year. It’s just been good news after good news so far for YOW, and the more they announce, the more I believe we may end up being a true hub for them with their announcement of the maintenance base, increase dash-8 service (possibly for more feed to YOW), and the CEO publicly talking about how underserved YOW is. I’m very hopeful but until they actually add something, it’s just hope. We also start off with more frequency to YYZ in comparison to YUL. That must mean something hopefully.

The number of year-round destinations served by Porter from YOW is almost just as much as AC, and we’re talking about a fleet of 236 vs. 34.

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They’re going to start in YYZ and with domestic destinations no doubt. Hopefully though we’ll see something for us this year. It’s just been good news after good news so far for YOW, and the more they announce, the more I believe we may end up being a true hub for them with their announcement of the maintenance base, increase dash-8 service (possibly for more feed to YOW), and the CEO publicly talking about how underserved YOW is. I’m very hopeful but until they actually add something, it’s just hope. We also start off with more frequency to YYZ in comparison to YUL. That must mean something hopefully.
Good news after good news? I don't see anything that would qualify as such. Flights to Thunder Bay?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2023, 10:10 PM
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Good news after good news? I don't see anything that would qualify as such. Flights to Thunder Bay?
Their primary maintenance base, 4 new destinations, the CEO clearly emphasizing how service is going to continue to grow in YOW are all not considered good news? Those all seem pretty dang positive to me.
     
     
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