Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport (YOW/CYOW) 1.0

[Zmonkey]

Originally Posted by fanofYOW

This is my thinking as well. If I was from a small Maritime city, having YOW as a connecting option over YYZ and YUL is great. That’s just me though, as I much more prefer to avoid big airports.

Its because of how many flights are available. Toronto to Calgary/Vancouver/Montreal are basically every 60-90 minutes so if you are coming in from Moncton or Saint John you don't have long waits to connect.

Porter will likely make it easy in Ottawa but will take a while until they can build it up.

Heck porter out of Billy Bishop 13 flights tomorrow to New York. Makes connecting and planning much easier.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

For once a post that didn't age well in favour of YOW with today's annoucement! At last some big news for the airport. BOS is back, YQB finally has some real competition and now there's suddenly two competitors to YQT after a decade without any.

The press release says it all: "The network expansion in Ottawa shows our commitment to the Ottawa-Gatineau region and its people. We expect our presence in Ottawa will continue growing."!

I'm happy to be wrong!

Though I dunno if I was that wrong. Launching service from YOW to those cities was always expected. I never said they wouldn't launch/add services here. What I suggested was that they seem to be prioritizing YYZ as a hub over Ottawa. And even with this announcement for YOW that still seems to be the case.

[fanofYOW]

Originally Posted by Zmonkey

Its because of how many flights are available. Toronto to Calgary/Vancouver/Montreal are basically every 60-90 minutes so if you are coming in from Moncton or Saint John you don't have long waits to connect.

Porter will likely make it easy in Ottawa but will take a while until they can build it up.

Heck porter out of Billy Bishop 13 flights tomorrow to New York. Makes connecting and planning much easier.

Yes of course frequency is everything here, but I was more thinking along the lines of if they time it well. Higher frequency airports have the advantage of putting you on the next flight out if there is an interruption with that next flight not being too long of a wait. But again, if they time it well with let’s say an hour layover, then I still would choose YOW over YYZ/YUL. Personal preference to use not so big airports on my part.

[Harley613]

Flying to EWR on a Dash 8 sounds like a dream. I have flown there on an ERJ145 dozens of times and I HATE IT.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

I'm happy to be wrong!

Though I dunno if I was that wrong. Launching service from YOW to those cities was always expected. I never said they wouldn't launch/add services here. What I suggested was that they seem to be prioritizing YYZ as a hub over Ottawa. And even with this announcement for YOW that still seems to be the case.

I have no illusions that long-term YOW won't be bigger than YYZ. However, with the announcements over the past week, they're well on their way to hitting that 60-70 daily YOW departures mark within 5 years that I'd mentioned a couple of months ago. At the very least this summer they'll be at:
-YYZ 4x
-YHZ 3x
-YTZ 11x
-YQM 1x
-YFC 1x
-YQB 1x
-BOX 1x
-EWR 2x
-YQT 2x

That takes them to 26x without any additional announcements...which I think there will be at least one more, even if it's just to up YYZ to 6-7x by summer. 26x on weekdays is already the most daily YOW departures they've ever had. Pre-pandemic in their peak seasons they'd top out at 22-23x.

[Calfan12]

Originally Posted by mxg308

Why would passengers choose to connect at YUL or YYZ? Pretty sure they would likely like to avoid connecting at those two airports if possible from a passenger perspective. It's not about passengers choosing, it's about airlines routing passengers.

Because Toronto YYZ & Montreal YUL have more flight options from different Airlines to connect to Domestic, US & International destinations .

[originalmuffins]

Porter is awesome. I'm so glad they're going to give YOW a shot.

[MountainView]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

I have no illusions that long-term YOW won't be bigger than YYZ. However, with the announcements over the past week, they're well on their way to hitting that 60-70 daily YOW departures mark within 5 years that I'd mentioned a couple of months ago. At the very least this summer they'll be at:
-YYZ 4x
-YHZ 3x
-YTZ 11x
-YQM 1x
-YFC 1x
-YQB 1x
-BOX 1x
-EWR 2x
-YQT 2x

That takes them to 26x without any additional announcements...which I think there will be at least one more, even if it's just to up YYZ to 6-7x by summer. 26x on weekdays is already the most daily YOW departures they've ever had. Pre-pandemic in their peak seasons they'd top out at 22-23x.

Similar amount of non-stop destinations that Air Canada will have! Wild.

AC will have YVR, YYC, YWG, YYZ, YTZ, YUL, YHZ, EWR, DCA, and YQB (scheduled to resume May 2023)

[fanofYOW]

https://www.flyporter.com/en-ca/book-flights/where-we-fly/route-map

Anyone else find it extremely satisfying to put all the routes into perspective with their route map? YOW is starting to feel like a real hub if only a slightly minor one right now.

Also, YYZ-YYC starting Feb 21 as a new route. They’re ramping up much quicker than I expected.

[MountainView]

Embraer E195-E2 and E190-E2 Receives Type Certification in Canada

Embraer’s E2 family of commercial jets, the E195-E2 and E190-E2, has received Type Certification from Transport Canada Civil Aviation (TCCA), following certification from ANAC (Brazil), the FAA (USA), and EASA (Europe) in 2019 and 2018 respectively.

The delivery of the first of fifty E195-E2 ordered by Toronto based Porter Airlines, which will also be the first E195-E2 to operate in North America, will take place at Embraer’s headquarters in São José dos Campos, Brazil, in the coming days.

Porter Airlines has orders with Embraer for up to 100 E195-E2 aircraft; 50 firm commitments and 50 purchase rights. In 2021 Porter ordered 30 Embraer E195-E2 jets, with purchase rights for a further 50 aircraft, worth US$5.82 billion at list price, with all options exercised. A firm order for a further 20 aircraft followed in 2022, valued at US$1.56 billion

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by fanofYOW

https://www.flyporter.com/en-ca/book-flights/where-we-fly/route-map

Anyone else find it extremely satisfying to put all the routes into perspective with their route map? YOW is starting to feel like a real hub if only a slightly minor one right now.

Also, YYZ-YYC starting Feb 21 as a new route. They’re ramping up much quicker than I expected.

Looks like the interactive part of the map isn't working at the moment. I see MYR and Muskoka are absent from the map. I wonder if that means they're dropped out of YTZ? Tremblant is still there as a seasonal destination.

Today's departure count: 61 - including 3 sun flights

Today's cancellation count (so far): 4 - looks like the storm is already starting to affect YYZ & YTZ. While it's currently raining in Toronto, it's expected to turn to heavy wet snow shortly, so these are probably pre-emptive cancellations to maintain schedule integrity as best as possible. Should be a mess here tomorrow!

[MountainView]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

Looks like the interactive part of the map isn't working at the moment. I see MYR and Muskoka are absent from the map. I wonder if that means they're dropped out of YTZ? Tremblant is still there as a seasonal destination.

Today's departure count: 61 - including 3 sun flights

Today's cancellation count (so far): 4 - looks like the storm is already starting to affect YYZ & YTZ. While it's currently raining in Toronto, it's expected to turn to heavy wet snow shortly, so these are probably pre-emptive cancellations to maintain schedule integrity as best as possible. Should be a mess here tomorrow!

Rouge 1511 from YYZ to YQT (Thunder Bay) flew all the way to YQT before not being able to land and flew to YOW! What a ride! Wonder if the folks get bonus Aeroplan points for that one!

ROU1511 flight track

[hehehe]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

Looks like the interactive part of the map isn't working at the moment. I see MYR and Muskoka are absent from the map. I wonder if that means they're dropped out of YTZ? Tremblant is still there as a seasonal destination.

Today's departure count: 61 - including 3 sun flights

Today's cancellation count (so far): 4 - looks like the storm is already starting to affect YYZ & YTZ. While it's currently raining in Toronto, it's expected to turn to heavy wet snow shortly, so these are probably pre-emptive cancellations to maintain schedule integrity as best as possible. Should be a mess here tomorrow!

I think Muskoka Myrtle beach were both dropped, they haven't been bookable for a while now.

With regard to Porter I fully expect a YYT service from YOW sometime next summer.

[Calfan12]

PORTER EXPANDS OTTAWA NETWORK FROM LATE-MARCH 2023

Porter Airlines yesterday (14DEC22) announced network expansion at Ottawa, at the launch of Northern summer 2023 season. From 27MAR23, the carrier will be assigning Dash 8-Q400 aircraft on service to Boston, Newark, Quebec City and Thunder Bay. Planned schedule as follows.

Ottawa – Boston eff 27MAR23 1 daily Dash 8-Q400
PD2341 YOW1105 – 1215BOS DH4 6
PD2345 YOW1600 – 1710BOS DH4 x67
PD2345 YOW1615 – 1725BOS DH4 7

PD2342 BOS1305 – 1439YOW DH4 6
PD2346 BOS1800 – 1934YOW DH4 x67
PD2346 BOS1815 – 1949YOW DH4 7

Ottawa – Newark eff 27MAR23 2 daily Dash 8-Q400 (1 daily on weekends)
PD2323 YOW0755 – 0925EWR DH4 x6
PD2327 YOW1000 – 1130EWR DH4 6
PD2339 YOW1610 – 1740EWR DH4 x6

PD2324 EWR1000 – 1140YOW DH4 x6
PD2328 EWR1210 – 1350YOW DH4 6
PD2340 EWR1825 – 2010YOW DH4 x6

Ottawa – Quebec City eff 27MAR23 1 daily Dash 8-Q400
PD2363 YOW1630 – 1728YQB DH4 6
PD2363 YOW1925 – 2023YQB DH4 x67
PD2363 YOW1935 – 2033YQB DH4 7

PD2360 YQB0755 – 0904YOW DH4 x67
PD2360 YQB0840 – 0949YOW DH4 6
PD2360 YQB0925 – 1034YOW DH4 7

Ottawa – Thunder Bay eff 27MAR23 2 daily Dash 8-Q400 (1 daily on weekends)
PD2351 YOW0945 – 1209YQT DH4 x67
PD2353 YOW1145 – 1409YQT DH4 67
PD2355 YOW1825 – 2049YQT DH4 x67
PD2355 YOW1905 – 2129YQT DH4 7

PD2350 YQT0750 – 1010YOW DH4 x7
PD2350 YQT0820 – 1040YOW DH4 7
PD2352 YQT1255 – 1515YOW DH4 x67
PD2354 YQT1500 – 1720YOW DH4 7

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/221215-pdns23yow

[Calfan12]

Air Canada inflight entertainment has new features now. Good for Sports fans & the 1's that enjoys the news world wide✅!!

Air Canada has upped their game with exclusive new in-flight features.

With the holiday season upon us, thousands will be travelling across the country to see their loved ones. And if you’re someone who tends to get super bored on flights, we’ve got good news.

Thanks to Air Canada, flying just got a whole lot better — especially for sports fans. The airline has recently launched Live TV on select domestic flights, which means passengers will no longer miss out on exciting live-action sports games while in the air.

With six live channels in both English and French, passengers will also be able to keep up-to-date with live national news onboard.

TV programming consists of TSN 1, TSN 2, and RDS, which will deliver comprehensive live sports coverage for marquee sports events including soccer, hockey, basketball, football, baseball, and more; CTV News Channel for 24-hour worldwide breaking news; LCN, Quebec’s all-news station; and BNN Bloomberg for all things new in the business and finance world.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/air-canada-new-in-flight-features-live-tv

[Dominion301]

Today’s departure count: 61 - including 1 Jetz charter to DTW and 5 sun flights

Today’s cancellation count: 8 - not bad considering the snowstorm

[Dominion301]

Today’s departure count: 67 - including 12 sun flights and the inaugural flight on WG to Cayo Largo Del Sur - I don’t even know the airport code!

Today’s cancellation count (so far): 4

[fanofYOW]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

Today’s departure count: 67 - including 12 sun flights and the inaugural flight on WG to Cayo Largo Del Sur - I don’t even know the airport code!

Today’s cancellation count (so far): 4

Always great to see a new route start up. Seems like YOW is getting a little bit of attention these days except from AC or WS - unsurprisingly. Speaking of which, I wonder what AC will do (if anything at all) about this Porter initiating YOW-BOS thing or about Porter's regional expansion in general.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by fanofYOW

Always great to see a new route start up. Seems like YOW is getting a little bit of attention these days except from AC or WS - unsurprisingly. Speaking of which, I wonder what AC will do (if anything at all) about this Porter initiating YOW-BOS thing or about Porter's regional expansion in general.

It was a missing route recently with some business travel and higher end leisure. If history is any guide Air Canada will respond. Thunder Bay seems safer and they can steal connections from there if BOS or NYC are big destinations. It's always easy to criticize from the cheap seats but they don't seem to have added much and splitting their fleet in Toronto seems like they lose their biggest advantage that is especially valuable with infrequent YYZ-YOW flights right now from AC.

[fanofYOW]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

It was a missing route recently with some business travel and higher end leisure. If history is any guide Air Canada will respond. Thunder Bay seems safer and they can steal connections from there if BOS or NYC are big destinations. It's always easy to criticize from the cheap seats but they don't seem to have added much and splitting their fleet in Toronto seems like they lose their biggest advantage that is especially valuable with infrequent YYZ-YOW flights right now from AC.

Good point. Time will tell if AC retracts their Summer 2023 schedule plans to increase frequency and possibly return the YOW-BOS route.