Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[Makid]

For a guesstimated height for the Sears Block we can use IMC as a reference (similar floor usage presumed).

I think that due to ambulance/emergency services, the block will be cut in 4. This limits the overall width of the hospital, parking structure, and supporting buildings which pushes the buildings taller. Also, expect multiple sky bridges.

Ground Level - 15' - 20'
Procedure floors (3-4) - 45' - 60'
Recovery rooms estimated around 300 (15 - 20) - 195' - 260'

This puts the hospital tower at a range of roughly 250' - 350'. The majority of the height comes from the 300 rooms.

The parking needs will very likely be similar to IMC. With limits on surface lots, we should expect multiple parking structures.

We also should expect the plans to include spaces for clinics. If the project replicates the same clinic options as IMC in a single tower, it would be around 275'. If it is split in 2 buildings, the buildings would likely need to be built over the parking structures, not only due to limited space on the site but also to reduce parking visibility from the street while activating the ground floor. This would lean towards 2 towers of roughly 180' each.

My thoughts on the layout would be a block split evenly in 4 pieces by N/S and E/W streets. The hospital would sit on the SE corner of the block. Clinics would be in the NW corner. Employee parking would be in the NE corner space behind existing buildings (possible location for helipad on top of the parking structure). This would leave the SW corner open. Possibly used by a parking structure but I would think by a smaller building that can be replaced by a second hospital tower as demand increases.

All the above buildings could be built, as of right under a D1 zoning change using the locations listed.

[Atlas]

Yeah, with 300 beds, parking, and a litany of other hospital functions and clinics, the ~8.5 acres of the Sears Block isn't a lot of space. They will need to build upward.

IHC in Murray is 504 beds (per Wikipedia) but the campus is 75+ acres. A lot of that is surface parking. The main hospital tower is probably 180-200 ft tall.

[delts145]

Great post Makid, very helpful. Can't wait to see the renderings of that project!

[Pencil]

From the Building Salt Lake article two days go.

Intermountain provided some hints about the scale of its eventual facility, comparing it to the height of the Grand America hotel and several new office and apartment projects nearby.

[delts145]

Here's some additional news on that 'ONE BURTON' project that was posted in the Tribune yesterday. It's for South Salt Lake, but I wanted to post it here also. Hopefully, this is a sign of things to come for more of an urban South Salt Lake Downtown

(Architectural Nexus) Rendering of One Burton, a mixed-use development that is kick-starting South Salt Lake's plans to create a downtown district.


See what’s finally coming to South Salt Lake: its first ‘downtown’ building

By Alixel Cabrera | Nov. 16, 2022, 5:00 a.m. - https://www.sltrib.com/news/2022/11/16/see-whats-finally-coming-south/


South Salt Lake • Buzz about South Salt Lake revitalization took a tangible step forward Tuesday with a ceremonial shovel turn on Main Street and Burton Avenue.

Construction of One Burton, a new mixed-use development near 2400 South, is now underway, and, along with other building projects, so is the prospect of creating a downtown in this city of 27,000 residents.

The eight-story complex will have 180 apartments — 50 two-bedroom, 103 one-bedroom and 27 studio units. Planned amenities include a gallery, spa and fitness facilities along with rooftop courtyards. The project, which is expected to open in 2024, also will include 7,000 square feet of retail space for restaurants or neighborhood shops.

(Rick Egan | The Salt Lake Tribune) South Salt Lake VIPs turn over a shovel of dirt for groundbreaking of South Salt Lake's Downtown East Streetcar District, which will provide 180 multifamily housing units, on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2022.

South Salt Lake’s downtown has been in the works since 2016. The intention is to add more housing, commercial and nightlife, said Mayor Cherie Wood. After years of planning, pandemic-related disruptions and infrastructure issues, city officials, architects and developers staged Tuesday’s ceremony on an open parcel where a church, an apartment building and a storage facility used to sit.

“This is our first one after all of that to break ground, and we’re excited,” said Wood, highlighting how much she liked the design, which wraps around a billboard facing Interstate 80. “This is one of many coming to our downtown area.”

(Rick Egan | The Salt Lake Tribune) One Burton, the redevelopment area planned for South Salt Lake's downtown revitalization, known as the Downtown East Streetcar District, will provide 180 multifamily housing units, on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2022.

Despite the excitement surrounding One Burton, the building will not include the affordable units that Utah so desperately needs to ease a housing crisis.

City officials had been working with these developers before the housing crunch deepened, Wood said, so they did not address the affordability element for this building. But the mayor expects future developments to include affordable units.

What it will look like

One Burton will boast midcentury modern architecture that fits with the neighborhood, said Doug Thimm, an architect at Architectural Nexus, the Salt Lake City firm designing the building. “The idea was to bring something in that could be a piece of architecture that became part of the greater whole.”

Thimm is confident that this development will help execute the city’s vision for its downtown. The building, including its commercial space, is expected to draw people from across Salt Lake County.

“I’ve been talking on and off with the city for over 20 years,” Thimm said, “and to see something finally happening here is really exciting for us.”

(Architectural Nexus) Rendering of One Burton, a mixed-use development that is kick-starting South Salt Lake's plans to create a downtown district.
For this project, Architectural Nexus is working alongside Abstract Development Group, an affiliate of a New York-based real estate firm, and Jacobsen Construction Co.

More changes coming to South Salt Lake

Developers are planning another 12 projects in the area in the near future.

“You’re going to see change as you’re already seeing in South Salt Lake right now,” said Gary Ellis, Jacobsen’s president and CEO. “...This is a true sign that we’re providing an area for people to come and live in South Salt Lake and really revitalize the area.”

South Salt Lake’s downtown expects to offer grocery stores, public spaces and access to public transportation.

“We’ve always struggled from people not knowing that we’re a city. If we built a downtown, those types of developments would last 50-plus years,” Wood said, “and so that would really be something we can hang our hat on as a community.”

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[mstar]

Regarding the new IHC hospital on the Sears site, it seems like I read somewhere that that IHC would also want to build their own offices on this site as well. If this is true, that would make the available space even less for the hospital requiring more height. And, who knows how large the offices would need to be???

[Paniolo Man]

Originally Posted by mstar

Regarding the new IHC hospital on the Sears site, it seems like I read somewhere that that IHC would also want to build their own offices on this site as well. If this is true, that would make the available space even less for the hospital requiring more height. And, who knows how large the offices would need to be???

I'd bet it's referring to medical offices. Intermountain's administrative offices are in a complex out on the west side of town iirc.

[Ironweed]

Originally Posted by Paniolo Man

I'd bet it's referring to medical offices. Intermountain's administrative offices are in a complex out on the west side of town iirc.

It would make sense to have their administrative offices in downtown. IMO
What excites me is how this project will be an impetus to spur other development in proximity to the hospital.

[SLCHenry]

Hey! I saw this Reddit post about the empty lot by the Harmons. Are there any plans for something there?

I also am wondering if anyone has heard any rumors of new towers. Really hoping for a 500+ footer in the next few years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DevelopmentSLC/...here_plans_for_this_lot_east_of_harmons/

[The Scorpion Critic]

Originally Posted by SLCHenry

Hey! I saw this Reddit post about the empty lot by the Harmons. Are there any plans for something there?

I also am wondering if anyone has heard any rumors of new towers. Really hoping for a 500+ footer in the next few years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DevelopmentSLC/...here_plans_for_this_lot_east_of_harmons/

I’m going to be blunt. No. At least not yet.

[Enemy4thePeople]

Originally Posted by Makid

All the above buildings could be built, as of right under a D1 zoning change using the locations listed.

Except that Hospitals are not a permitted use.

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by Enemy4thePeople

Except that Hospitals are not a permitted use.

I think he means once the zoning change is approved. They're asking for hospitals to be a by-right use. And considering it's IHC requesting the change, I'm sure they'll have no problem getting that through.

Either way it will probably be another year before we start to see the changes coming to that lot.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by Makid

For a guesstimated height for the Sears Block we can use IMC as a reference (similar floor usage presumed).

I'm not sure why you'd use IMC as the reference, when IMC is their flagship hospital and this one will not be. It makes more sense to use the current LDS hospital, and the other other 3.5 blocks of professional offices as the reference. What will they have to do to fit all 5.5 blocks of buildings on 9/10 of a block (with perhaps 10-15% more for growth since all of those were built.)

[Makid]

Originally Posted by Stenar

I'm not sure why you'd use IMC as the reference, when IMC is their flagship hospital and this one will not be. It makes more sense to use the current LDS hospital, and the other other 3.5 blocks of professional offices as the reference. What will they have to do to fit all 5.5 blocks of buildings on 9/10 of a block (with perhaps 10-15% more for growth since all of those were built.)

With more news coming out regarding what is planned (high level right now), it sounds likely IHC is looking at mostly replicating IMC but on a much smaller footprint.

It is also good to use a flagship as a model as later built hospitals will incorporate the efficiencies that were instituted as the flagship.

Of course, it is just what I used as my source for my guesstimate. The overall project could be bigger or smaller than my guesstimate. It will mostly come down to IHC's overall plans.

My thoughts for IHC's plans are that they want IMC to continue to be their flagship. They have space available there to expand for decades. IMC has, however, already run into capacity issues and it is projected to get worse over the next decade.

Because of this, I look at the planned SLC hospital as more than just a replacement of LDS, but also as a northern anchor for IHC. With the population growth in SLC, I can see the need for a more central hospital for northern SL County. The Sears block is more central to the current and planned population growth for SLC and SSL than an expanded SL Regional or U hospital would be.

I also see, at least to me, positive confirmation of this with seeing the recovery room/bed count already increasing from around 250 (originally stated) to around 300 now. I could see this count increase closer to 400 when the plans are finalized.

This would provide positive relief for IMC to then work on their next planned expansion. I could see a southern relief hospital campus being needed in the next 25 to 30 years and I would expect it to happen around the current Riverton hospital.

Of course, there are just my thoughts and guesstimates. Until something is officially announced, nothing should be taken seriously as they are all just fanciful dreams.

[SLCHenry]

What ever happened to the APS tower and the new Zions Bank?

[mattreedah]

Originally Posted by SLCHenry

What ever happened to the APS tower and the new Zions Bank?

There were never concrete plans for either.

[Blah_Amazing]

https://citizenportal.slcgov.com/Citizen...16&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

Address: 515 S 500 W

The Basics: First phase of the Silos development. 8 floors. 175 units. 204 parking stalls (to be shared across development).

Project Description (from developer)
The LIHTC portion of the Silos site development is located at 515 S 500 W. The project is composed of a 3 level (Concrete) podium Parking Garage with 204 parking stalls and 175 LIHTC units in 5 levels of (wood) vertical Construction. The parking spaces will provide a cross shared use across the site for residents as well as the commercial office users in the restored Mill Building. The project provides 65 Studios, 90-1 bedrooms, and 20-2 Bedrooms. Within the building there will also be a leasing lobby with a single office, amenity rooms, bike storage, and access to the local park on the overall Site. The project will highlight an all electric building with Energy Star appliances as well as a cluster of electric water heaters per floor.

[Ironweed]

A picture of Comrade with members of the SLC planning commission:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=674332407386835&set=a.198674411619306

I should have some new intel on the Greek Orthodox Development by the 3'rd of Dec. I will share it once received.

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by Ironweed

A picture of Comrade with members of the SLC planning commission:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=674332407386835&set=a.198674411619306

I should have some new intel on the Greek Orthodox Development by the 3'rd of Dec. I will share it once received.

[SLCHenry]

Originally Posted by Ironweed

A picture of Comrade with members of the SLC planning commission:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=674332407386835&set=a.198674411619306

I should have some new intel on the Greek Orthodox Development by the 3'rd of Dec. I will share it once received.

Really hope this Greek town becomes reality, Salt Lake could use some culture…