Canadian LRT/RT projects U/C

[Coldrsx]

WEM Station


No connection to the mall.

https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_plans/transit/valley-line-west-lrt-and-me

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Yup. It will look like that.

Good to hear.

Originally Posted by Greetingsfromcanada

The metrotown connection was removed when the station was rebuilt. There's an empty walkway boarded up that leads to nowhere now

So, you no longer can get from the station to the mall?

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

WEM Station


No connection to the mall.

https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_plans/transit/valley-line-west-lrt-and-me

Wow I thought for sure they would link an indoor corridor to the Mall. Come to think of it, the parking lot would suffer, and the automobile is still king in Alberta. I see they are going to rebuild the transit center.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

There has been much bemoaning about the fact that Ottawa's will not. Go into the Confederation Line thread and go back a few years....

If Edmonton did just use what they could to get an airport link, it would be better than nothing.

Zero chance Edmonton will build an LRT line to the Edmonton International Airport. It's rural land for 10km from the southern most built up area to the airport. It would not be economically viable, as very few people would use the 10km stretch.

[casper]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Zero chance Edmonton will build an LRT line to the Edmonton International Airport. It's rural land for 10km from the southern most built up area to the airport. It would not be economically viable, as very few people would use the 10km stretch.

Relative to urban lines it would be quite a bit more economical to build, it could be at surface and single tracked. Relatively few stations between the airport and Edmonton.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Zero chance Edmonton will build an LRT line to the Edmonton International Airport. It's rural land for 10km from the southern most built up area to the airport. It would not be economically viable, as very few people would use the 10km stretch.

Then my only hope would be to tunnel to downtown a link to the existing rail infrastructure.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

So, you no longer can get from the station to the mall?

Not on an overhead walkway - not for the past six years.

You go down to grade on an escalator, cross the street, and enter the mall on the lower level.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Not on an overhead walkway - not for the past six years.

You go down to grade on an escalator, cross the street, and enter the mall on the lower level.

That is stupid.
Why did they do that?

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Zero chance Edmonton will build an LRT line to the Edmonton International Airport. It's rural land for 10km from the southern most built up area to the airport. It would not be economically viable, as very few people would use the 10km stretch.

It isn't and should not be a priority until the rest of the city-wide/regional system is up and running to help feed it, but I could see it happening around 25yrs from now.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

WEM Station


No connection to the mall.

https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_plans/transit/valley-line-west-lrt-and-me

Station looks good. Disappointing they won't build a connection. Will they at least improve the ground level pedestrian link to the mall?

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

That is stupid.
Why did they do that?

An enclosed pedway from the West Ed station to the Mall would be on Mall property and about 1 city block long. And the entrance there is at-grade under a parkade ramp if I remember - so you'd have to get the Mall to agree to all kinds of pricey stuff.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Station looks good. Disappointing they won't build a connection. Will they at least improve the ground level pedestrian link to the mall?

The connection is actually a straight shot through the parkade and isn't as bad as one thinks. It's usually pretty busy *with pedestrians* and used to use it daily and didn't notice any issues with cars there.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

An enclosed pedway from the West Ed station to the Mall would be on Mall property and about 1 city block long. And the entrance there is at-grade under a parkade ramp if I remember - so you'd have to get the Mall to agree to all kinds of pricey stuff.

Cities and malls have worked well together in the past when it comes to transit. In Ottawa, St. Laurent expanded to include a direct connection to the underground station, Rideau has three entrances to the subway station, Place d'Orleans and Billings have an overhead walkways, Bayshore has an overhead walkway to its parking garage, which connect to the mall (not great, but it's something), Gloucester Centre has a crosswalk to the station plaza. I'm sure I'm missing some.

Surely, Edmonton and WEM could have come up with some sort of agreement, even if it was a sidewalk.

EDIT: I see that parking garage now, thanks. Do they have a sidewalk under tehre from the station t the door?

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Cities and malls have worked well together in the past when it comes to transit. In Ottawa, St. Laurent expanded to include a direct connection to the underground station, Rideau has three entrances to the subway station, Place d'Orleans and Billings have an overhead walkways, Bayshore has an overhead walkway to its parking garage, which connect to the mall (not great, but it's something), Gloucester Centre has a crosswalk to the station plaza. I'm sure I'm missing some.

Surely, Edmonton and WEM could have come up with some sort of agreement, even if it was a sidewalk.

EDIT: I see that parking garage now, thanks. Do they have a sidewalk under tehre from the station t the door?

No just regular parkade pavement at grade so you walk from the station to mall entrance in the drive aisle as if you just parked your car

Also at our Southgate Station the mall there, if I recall, refused to play ball for a direct connection when it was built

[Coldrsx]

^that's correct; didn't want to provide any of their lot for park and ride.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

An enclosed pedway from the West Ed station to the Mall would be on Mall property and about 1 city block long. And the entrance there is at-grade under a parkade ramp if I remember - so you'd have to get the Mall to agree to all kinds of pricey stuff.

The station looked closer.

[itom 987]

There is a rumour that a mixed use tower is planned to be built on the parking lot between the LRT station and West Edmonton Mall connecting them together.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by itom 987

There is a rumour that a mixed use tower is planned to be built on the parking lot between the LRT station and West Edmonton Mall connecting them together.

Certainly hope that comes to be.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by itom 987

There is a rumour that a mixed use tower is planned to be built on the parking lot between the LRT station and West Edmonton Mall connecting them together.

By Triple Five Group?

[rbt]

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