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Old Posted Sep 24, 2022, 12:06 AM
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Rond-point all the time (in spoken form). But you’re right about the official name of the setup.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2022, 6:23 AM
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We have a lot of that appearing here in Vancouver now, with the restriction imposed because of right-of-way given to bike lanes, it's irritating as it constricts the traffic flow.
It’s the right move. Right on red turns kill cyclists and pedestrians - the majority of motorists do not stop as required and are only concerned about cross traffic when they approach the intersection. I’ve also noticed more of these bans in the GTA (905) on this particular trip back and it’s nice to see our cities taking something other than traffic flow into account when planning our roadways.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2022, 7:49 AM
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An article in the Le Devoir today that will "delight" one of the forumers here. It's called "In the land of the «Eastern Townshippers»". In it, Lisa, from the municipality of Brome Village, where 62% of the population are native English speakers, expresses her outrage at Bill 96, but says she won't vote anyway, because her little vote will make 0 difference, it is Legault who will have the last say anyway, she says. She also says it will become impossible to receive health services in English.

She says she's going to sell her house in the Eastern Townships and resettle in Ontario, "where it's English", "where you can read road signs and know where you're going".

It's pretty incredible that someone could have lived their whole life in Québec and made absolutely no effort to learn even minimal French to be able to read road signs... In the article she says that Bill 96 was "the icing on the cake", and has determined her to leave.

François, a recent retiree from Saint-Léonard (Montréal) who settled in Brome Village during Covid-19, says he feels no tension between French and English speakers, but he says "I can't accept that Anglophones make no effort to speak French. It shows contempt, as far as I'm concerned." Nathalie, his Francophone neighbor, adds: "As for me, my father came from England and he learned French".

In the nearby village of Stanstead, at the US border, several people also bemoan Bill 96. One Anglophone, called Naomie, describes it as "a screw around your neck, that is getting tightened ever more". Another Anglophone, called Kim, says Anglophones and Francophones get along well, but she says there are people in the community who are "feverishly anti-Anglophone", and it's shameful she says. She also says she speaks French better after a bottle of wine.

The article is here: https://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebe...ec-2022-au-pays-des-eastern-townshippers
Well I had an experience today in Timmins where I had to speak French to get service! It was at a local restaurant that serves mainly francophone customers. I've gone there in the past and all of the servers were bilingual. But the restaurant is very short of workers and is having to hire immigrants. So our server was a young lady who obviously immigrated from an African country going by her accent in French. She did not know any English at all! But she was very easy to understand in French. And she was relieved that I could speak French. It was funny watching her serve senior citizen francophones who use a lot of slang/joual. They had to speak properly and clearly in French for her to understand them. And it's also funny because the menus and menu boards there are all in English only.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2022, 12:24 PM
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Latest Mainstreet poll has the Liberals (PLQ) at 4.5% support among francophones.

Not the best pollster as I always say but they won't be much higher with the others.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2022, 1:28 PM
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Rond-point all the time (in spoken form). But you’re right about the official name of the setup.
“Le giratoire” or “le carrefour giratoire” is more frequent in Montreal (in Île-des-Sœurs, for example) and in the Laurentians. Depends on the region I guess.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2022, 1:34 PM
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Well I had an experience today in Timmins where I had to speak French to get service! It was at a local restaurant that serves mainly francophone customers . (…) And it's also funny because the menus and menu boards there are all in English only.
There’s a manager (or restaurant owner/ franchisee) who’s not doing his job properly. I mean, come on… *sigh*
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2022, 1:14 AM
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There’s a manager (or restaurant owner/ franchisee) who’s not doing his job properly. I mean, come on… *sigh*
I do find it strange that the menu isn't bilingual. But most of the customers are seniors and most older Franco-Ontarians don't read French very well. Sad but true.
     
     
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I'm an Anglo in MTL who works part time in a dep in a Franco/Italo part of town and I can assure you:

Nobody, and I mean nobody, is talking about the election or Bill whatever - nobody!

I spend most of my time trying to understand Spanish-speaking customers or French from France (WTF? That can be multiple dialects) or the multitude of others who don't know if they should speak English or French to me (I always open in French). Whatever. We always figure it out!

I think Legault tries to divide us when there is no will on the part of anybody I know to be divided.

I think he's done an OK enough job and added just a touch of nationalism and fear in the regions - and the opposition is a mess - to reach another majority.

I'll vote QS, as always.
     
     
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I think Legault tries to divide us when there is no will on the part of anybody I know to be divided.
Problem is, society is far larger than the small bubble of your own acquaintances and clients in your tiny neighborhood.

Nobody can pretend to know a society based on one's own limited circle of relations in a small part of a given country.

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I'll vote QS, as always.
QS would be the ruin of your business. People wouldn't be wealthy enough anymore to be able to eat in restaurants.
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Actually, he said he worked in a corner store, one of the few business types that actually benefit from local poverty rather than the other way around, so electing QS is fine
     
     
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Always such a CAQ love-in on SSP

I'm voting QS, along with 2/3 of my neighbours, if the last election results are anything to go by. Do I want a QS government? Not necessarily, but I'd sure as hell prefer it over a transit-hating, climate-killing, "systemic racism doesn't exist" CAQ government that is going to eviscerate our already awful public health care system.
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Always such a CAQ love-in on SSP

I'm voting QS, along with 2/3 of my neighbours, if the last election results are anything to go by. Do I want a QS government? Not necessarily, but I'd sure as hell prefer it over a transit-hating, climate-killing, "systemic racism doesn't exist" CAQ government that is going to eviscerate our already awful public health care system.
I wasn't sure that I wanted to vote for the CAQ, but in my district I had no choice this time to go ''strategic'' in Charlesbourg to block the Parti des Clown du Québec (PCQ)
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Fun fact: Parti Québécois leader Paul St-Pierre Plamondon speaks French, English, Spanish, Danish and Swedish.
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This is only tangentially related but likely fits into the general theme of the thread. Just got back from a hurricane wedding in NB, but flew in and out of Halifax as I found extremely cheap fares on Flair airlines. On the way back we flew in a brand new 737-MAX and I noticed that all of the warning labels were in English and... Portuguese!

Fairly certain this aircraft was one of the those originally slated for sale to another airline and cancelled for understandable reasons, but interesting that they wouldn't redo the labels in French. Or possibly they haven't had a chance to yet. I didn't do a thorough check but they may have added French labels for safety features, as I imagine that would be mandated. Not really sure what the requirements are though.



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Spanish, not Portuguese.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 30, 2022, 2:30 PM
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Spanish, not Portuguese.
Whoops - meant to type Spanish. Not sure why I was thinking Portuguese when I made the post.
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Fairly standard for US domestic consumption nowadays, with California/Texas/Florida being the top three states.

Corporate-type stuff like McDonald’s signs and labels is bilingual in a good chunk of the country.

This plane was intended for the US market and they didn’t get to re-do the labels (yet). In other words, the infamous 7up Guy hasn’t flown in that particular plane yet.

Edit - if this plane was intended for somewhere like Mexico or Panama it makes even more sense (in the States, Spanish would almost always be below English).
     
     
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Fun fact: Parti Québécois leader Paul St-Pierre Plamondon speaks French, English, Spanish, Danish and Swedish.
Screw that. My PQ leader should only speak joual.
     
     
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Fairly standard for US domestic consumption nowadays, with California/Texas/Florida being the top three states.

Corporate-type stuff like McDonald’s signs and labels is bilingual in a good chunk of the country.

This plane was intended for the US market and they didn’t get to re-do the labels (yet). In other words, the infamous 7up Guy hasn’t flown in that particular plane yet.

The latter is more what I was getting at! Interesting that a Canadian airline didn't take the (I assume) minimal time to do the relabeling on delivery when they redid the rest of the interior.

Bilingual labels in public (transit, etc.) was one of the things I noticed on my first trip to Chicago. Took me a second to realize why it was so familiar but seemed out of place. I'd seen the corporate labeling before but municipal signage in Spanish was more unexpected.
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I’m thinking that any French Canadian passenger can safely leave the water basin totally wet every time as a discourtesy to the next passenger, since they have plausible deniability for just not being aware of the request
     
     
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