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Old Posted Aug 12, 2022, 10:29 PM
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Pretty soon some of those businesses might not even be able to get private security guards:

Vancouver security guard taken to hospital after Chinatown assault

By Simon Little Global News
Posted August 12, 2022

A security guard working Vancouver’s Historic Chinatown was taken to hospital after allegedly being assaulted on Friday.

Vancouver police say the guard was on his morning rounds near the Chinese Cultural Centre, and taking photos to document the state of the area around 11 a.m.

According to police, he was taking photos in a laneway when someone in the area became angry and attacked him....


https://globalnews.ca/news/9057076/vancouver-security-guard-assault/

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Even security guards and cops fear for their lives. If this keeps worsening, this area will become like those ghettos found in the most crime-ridden neighborhoods in cities like Rio or Cape Town, where security forces dare not venture in and residents having to fend for themselves.
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Anybody who's gullible enough to use YouTube op-eds and tabloid articles as "facts" is already losing the argument.
The worst type of person to discuss any topic with is the kind who won’t recant anything they say, no matter how faulty it is shown to be. It’s a Trumpian level of idiocy.
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Don't think this got posted from last week:

Man charged with assault after stranger attack in Strathcona
By Charlie Carey
Posted Aug 12, 2022, 5:58PM PDT.Last Updated Aug 12, 2022, 7:51PM PDT.
A 31-year-old man has been charged after a random attack in a Vancouver neighbourhood Wednesday.

According to police, a man was walking his dog in McLean Park in the Strathcona neighbourhood at around 6:20 p.m. when the suspect allegedly approached him from behind and held a knife to his neck.

The suspect took off after bystanders began to scream.

“We believe the incident was unprovoked, with no apparent motive,” Sgt. Steve Addison said in a statement to CityNews...


https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/08/12/strathcona-random-assault/
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89-year-old assaulted in Chinatown: Vancouver police

A woman has been charged with assault after an 89-year-old man was knocked to the ground in Vancouver's Chinatown, police say.

On Saturday morning, the senior was walking alone near Main and Keefer streets around 10:45, according to a news release from the Vancouver Police Department issued Sunday.

"A woman he didn’t know approached and knocked him to the ground. The man, who lives nearby, suffered cuts and scrapes," wrote spokesperson Sgt. Steve Addison, who said patrol officers in the area quickly made an arrest.

Patricia MacDonald, 58, has been charged with assault and has since been released from custody.



this is totally little Johnny Whore-again's fault. why are people like this women released hours after they assault a senior citizen? where the hell is the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General?

I figure they push people like this out on the street so fast so there are more NDP voters out there incase the new loser calls a snap election like the old loser called one. And a few hundred beaten old people is just collateral damage. as long as the NDP wins next election anything will be worth it.
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this is totally little Johnny Whore-again's fault. why are people like this women released hours after they assault a senior citizen? where the hell is the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General?

I figure they push people like this out on the street so fast so there are more NDP voters out there incase the new loser calls a snap election like the old loser called one. And a few hundred beaten old people is just collateral damage. as long as the NDP wins next election anything will be worth it.
So when Sarah Sullivan was charged with assault causing bodily harm and was released from custody in 2016, I assume you think that was all Christy Clark's fault?

Or when Dolores Pearl Robinson from Vancouver, 20-year-old Molly Robinson and another 17-year-old female were all charged with assault on a bus driver, grabbing her hair and punching her. Dolores Robinson was well known to police she had 462 negative police contacts recorded. Molly Robinson is her sister and had 267 negative police contacts recorded. All three were released from custody in 2014. That was Christy's fault too?
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I assume you think that was all Christy Clark's fault?
Minor correction: It's Crispy Fart, not "Christy Clark". Please keep the discussion civil. (obligatory /s)
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So when Sarah Sullivan was charged with assault causing bodily harm and was released from custody in 2016, I assume you think that was all Christy Clark's fault?

Or when Dolores Pearl Robinson from Vancouver, 20-year-old Molly Robinson and another 17-year-old female were all charged with assault on a bus driver, grabbing her hair and punching her. Dolores Robinson was well known to police she had 462 negative police contacts recorded. Molly Robinson is her sister and had 267 negative police contacts recorded. All three were released from custody in 2014. That was Christy's fault too?
Yes, it is and was every authority figure's fault when that kind of situation were to persist. Stop bringing back the past and focus on the present. People with authority who has the will to make things better can do it if they want to. I don't get why you keep laying red herrings. They won't stop the most dangerous criminals living among us, and discharged very soon after being arrested. Only the dumbest of societies tolerate that.

Again these two latest incidents occurred in your neighbourhood. Still safe you reckon?
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The worst type of person to discuss any topic with is the kind who won’t recant anything they say, no matter how faulty it is shown to be. It’s a Trumpian level of idiocy.
Say all you want but I hate to break it to you like this: this thread isn't just about yours sincerely. Stay on point and contribute something useful for a change will ya.

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Dwelling on this other incident from last weekend:

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"An attack on Chinatown": Beloved Vancouver security guard victim of stranger attack
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-chinatown-security-guard-attack

Lorraine Lowe is the director of the Dr. Sun Yat-Sen Classical Chinese Garden and she told Daily Hive that this was indicative of something bigger.

Streets are becoming unsafe for everyone — including first responders and now security guards. Never has this happened to Harold — he’s a man in his 60s.”

Kevin Aaron Hibbard is the 44-year-old suspect in question and he has been charged with assault.
Of course, we all know that the director of the Sun Yat Sen garden was merely exaggerating when she said that streets are now "unsafe" compared to before. Right?
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“Post-apocalyptic scenes": Poor tourist reviews hurt Chinatown businesses
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/poor-reviews-hurting-struggling-chinatown

“Chinatown has been ringing the alarm bells for a long time receiving only lip service from the politicians. Our neighborhood has been experiencing the overflow and collateral damage of what is happening on Hastings Street — social disorder, graffiti, anti-Asian defacement of cultural institutions,” he said.
What is the City doing about this, and to bring back the golden days of this historical district? Of are they just going to become an extension of DTES? Soon this will also spread to Granville Street and the surrounding areas if left unchecked.
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Extinction Rebellion spawns another splinter group planning to block streets

Different name, same face.

The Vancouver chapter of Extinction Rebellion has spawned another protest sub-brand that threatens to disrupt traffic Monday for an anti-shale gas march from Vancouver city hall to the CBC studios, via the Cambie Bridge.

The central coordinator of Stop Fracking Around (SFA) is Muhammad Zain Ul-Haq, the Save Old Growth (SOG) co-founder. The 21-year-old Pakistani Simon Fraser University student was detained by Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) in June for allegedly violating terms of his student visa. Haq was freed after a closed-door Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB) hearing on June 23, but neither IRB nor CBSA will comment on the outcome.

SOG has failed to convince the NDP government to stop old growth logging. SFA pledges to disrupt infrastructure and tourism sites until Vancouver city council bans residential use of shale gas by 2025. SFA/SOG member Sophie Papp was arrested Aug. 10 for pouring molasses on the Gastown Steam Clock.

A B.C. Supreme Court judge sentenced Haq in February to 14 days in jail for contempt of court after blocking Trans Mountain Pipeline construction. The judge’s verdict said he was also national action and strategy coordinator for Extinction Rebellion. The court database shows Haq is scheduled for trials on mischief charges in November, January and February.

SOG’s website says the group receives most of its funding for recruitment, training, capacity building and education from the Climate Emergency Fund (CEF), a California-based charity whose board includes an heiress to the Getty oil fortune. The New York Times reported SOG has received US$170,000 in grants from CEF, which was co-founded by Trevor Neilson, chairman of natural gas-from-trash and agricultural waste marketer WasteFuel.

Haq did not respond for comment.

Haq is one of five people listed on the Jan. 27 federal incorporation for Eco-Mobilization Canada. Another is Ian Shigeaki Weber, 26, who was sentenced to 14 days in jail on July 20 for mischief and violating an undertaking to not block traffic.

At that hearing, Crown lawyer Ellen Leno said there had been 43 arrests of 31 individuals from Save Old Growth in the Vancouver area and 96 arrests of 71 individuals from Extinction Rebellion protests.

Vancouver Provincial Court Judge James Sutherland agreed to the joint sentencing proposal from Leno and Weber’s lawyer, Sarah Grewal, which also included 18 months probation and an order to not intentionally block roadways.

Weber had been arrested for blocking traffic on Broadway near Environment Minister George Heyman’s office last September, near Vancouver International Airport and the north end of the Burrard Bridge last October, and the Upper Levels Highway near the Horseshoe Bay ferry terminal at the end of January.

Leno told the court that Weber continued coordinate SOG’s April roadblocks.

“There was a minor collision caused because of one of them,” Leno told the court. “There was a woman who was in labour who police had to escort over the Lions Gate

Bridge after they cleared a blockade, and frustrated motorists did attempt to physically pull protesters off the roadway before police arrived.”

Three vehicles seized by Vancouver Police from a June 13 protest at the Ironworkers Memorial Second Narrows Bridge were registered to Weber and Eco-Mobilization Canada.

Sutherland noted the YVR protest was near Canada’s second-busiest airport and a COVID-19 testing site.

“The interruption of traffic flow to the airport was not only one that affected citizens in terms of their mobility and travel but also placed at risk emergency services as well,” he said.

The court heard that 26-year-old, Richmond-born Weber has a bachelor’s degree in engineering from UBC and has worked as a dog walker and for Uber Eats, but is otherwise unemployed. Weber did not express remorse in a statement he read to the court. Instead, he admitted he was scared to go to jail, but even more fearful of the perceived lack of action by governments toward climate change.

“Somebody like Mr. Weber is passionate enough, committed enough and bright enough to be creative enough, I'm sure, to pursue his passions, but in a way that conforms with the rule of law,” Sutherland said.

Ultimately, the judge said, “it’s the method that’s the rub.”

“Without the rule of law, random anarchy results,” Sutherland said.

Sutherland waived the $100-per-offence victim fine surcharge because he said Weber had devoted more time to environmental pursuits than earning an income.

Weber was released after nine days in jail. SOG resumed its roadblock campaign on July 29.

A month earlier, on June 29, SOG announced it stopped roadblocks. That was also the day Ian Wilton Schortinghuis, 30, pleaded guilty to three counts of mischief and two counts of breach of undertaking. He had been in jail since his June 13 arrest at the Massey Tunnel. Judge Laura Bakan freed him June 30 on a conditional discharge and 24 months probation due to his remorse and desire to pursue training to be an auto mechanic.

“He fits the profile of some persons that I find, unfortunately, are used by organizations as foot soldiers while those behind organizing stay safe and sound,” Bakan said.
https://biv.com/article/2022/08/extincti...er-splinter-group-planning-block-streets
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Say all you want but I hate to break it to you like this: this thread isn't just about yours sincerely. Stay on point and contribute something useful for a change will ya.
Oh wow, I never mentioned you in my post but I guess you do have at least a modicum of self-awareness.
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Here's another serious example of the breakdown of order in society.




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One threatening note constitutes a breakdown in society...when all the various drug use, vandalism, arsons, fires, violence, assaults, breakins, burglaries, robberies, murders, etc. etc. are just due to "normal acceptable human behaviours", as according to someone.

Of course, the following also ISN'T a breakdown of order in society.......
Enablers:"Let them do what they want, if they die, so what?"

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"No words can replace these losses": BC surpasses 10,000 illicit drug deaths in six years
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-10000-illicit-drug-deaths
That public health emergency was declared back in 2016 and since then, BC has repeatedly seen a record number of people dying from toxic drugs.
Seriously, what's the point of flushing down millions down the drain and to see a complete breakdown of the system? Why should we all be paying?


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Oh wow, I never mentioned you in my post but I guess you do have at least a modicum of self-awareness.
Wow back to you indeed.
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These 5 myths about B.C.'s toxic drug crisis are hurting efforts to stop the deaths, say experts (CBC)

Advocates argue part of the problem is that many people with the power to make a difference are relying on outdated or incorrect ideas.

"People don't want to actually confront some serious realities here, and so these comforting lies are embraced in many ways. It's horrible because it prevents all of us from actually addressing this in a real way," said Karen Ward, a drug policy consultant with the City of Vancouver.

To get a better handle on some of the misconceptions, CBC spoke to experts who are experiencing the crisis from three different viewpoints: Leslie McBain, co-founder of Moms Stop the Harm, chief coroner Lisa LaPointe, and Ward.

Here are five of the most common myths they've encountered.

It's an 'opioid' or 'overdose' crisis

These shorthands for the emergency have only become less accurate as the years wear on. 

"People are actually trying to find opioids," Ward said. "The problem is that they're getting basically unknown substances."

If people don't know what they're taking, the word "overdose" — which implies someone has simply taken too much — hardly captures what's happening.

LaPointe adds that unlike in other parts of North America, B.C.'s crisis has never been about over-prescription of painkillers like oxycodone, and attempts to address the problem by limiting doctors' ability to prescribe opioids have been misguided at best.

The latest statistics from the coroner show a mishmash of drugs linked to deaths in B.C., with fentanyl and analogues like carfentanil detected in 91 per cent of fatal doses in December, and stimulants like methamphetamine and cocaine in 73 per cent

Perhaps most alarmingly, benzodiazepines were found in half of the samples, up from just 15 per cent in July 2020.

There could be some serious consequences as a result. For one thing, benzodiazepines are highly addictive, LaPointe notes.

"Withdrawing from opioids is difficult but it's nothing compared to withdrawing from benzodiazepines," she said.

There's also the fact that naloxone, one of the key planks in B.C.'s harm reduction strategy, will not reverse overdose from non-opioid drugs like benzodiazepines.

"Naloxone doesn't touch benzodiazepines," McBain explained.

B.C. has a safe supply of drugs

As it's been nearly two years since B.C. announced plans to provide a safe supply of drugs during the COVID-19 pandemic through access to prescription alternatives, shouldn't safe supply be widely available by now?

"I dearly wish that was true," LaPointe said.

She says she checks in regularly with health authorities to see how many people are able to access safe supply.

"The answer is always hardly anybody."

There are just a handful federally funded safe supply programs in B.C., all located in Vancouver and Victoria.

Leslie McBain, co-founder of Moms Stop the Harm, says B.C.'s limited safe supply programs aren't providing the right drugs.

"How do you actually access them? Nobody really knows," Ward said. "If you have the social power to have your own doctor … you might be able to do something."

McBain also takes issue with the drugs offered through the programs she's seen.

"If you're a person who, let's just say, is addicted to fentanyl, the government isn't willing to give you fentanyl. They say, 'Well, we're just going to give you some hydromorphone,'" she said.

"That doesn't work for people."

Only 'addicts' are dying

According to LaPointe, the B.C. Coroners Service convened a death review panel in December to discuss the drug poisoning crisis, and the data they reviewed show that people with severe drug dependencies do not represent the majority of deaths.

"You can be a first-time user, you can be a weekend user, you can be every few days, you can be a daily user," she said. "The supply is the unknown."

Ward says the increasingly toxic drug supply is making her feel more and more worried about the dangers of what she describes as "the normals" — people who might dabble in drugs for fun at a party, for example.

"If you're a regular user of an opiate, you've actually got the tolerance," she said. "But … the vast majority of people who use drugs just do it a once in a while."

People die from injected drugs

The image of someone dying with a needle stuck in their arm just doesn't match up with B.C.'s reality. According to the latest report from the coroner, only 19 per cent of toxic drug deaths in 2020 could be traced to consumption through injection.

By far the most common path to a drug-related death in 2020 was through smoking, at 56 per cent.

"There is another myth that smoking is safer, but it is not," LaPointe said.

B.C.'s chief coroner Lisa Lapointe says she's frustrated by the myth that people are mainly dying from illicit drugs in the Downtown Eastside. 

This is significant in part because of the role that supervised consumption sites and overdose prevention sites play in saving lives. According to the coroner, no one died of illicit drug poisoning at these sites in 2021, but they are still largely geared toward injection drug users.

"If we want to keep people safe, then consumption sites only for intravenous use or needle users are not going to be effective," LaPointe said.

She acknowledged concerns about protecting staff from drug fumes, but said overdose prevention sites are now beginning to accommodate more smokers.

It's a Downtown Eastside problem

LaPointe describes this as one of the most frustrating myths she encounters.

"The drugs are toxic, so it doesn't matter where you live in the province or your socioeconomic status or your job. If you take a drug that is toxic, you will die," she said.

Even so, services for drug users in B.C. are largely concentrated in the downtown Vancouver core and other urban areas.

It's true that the largest number of toxic drug deaths happen in Vancouver, but every corner of the province is seeing people die from drug poisoning: the Thompson Cariboo, Northwest, Northern Interior and Fraser East regions saw some of the highest death rates in 2021.

"It is in every community in B.C.," McBain said.

"It is in rural communities, it's in small towns, it's in bigger towns, it's urban, and it just so happens that the people in the Downtown Eastside are more visible."
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Perhaps most alarmingly, benzodiazepines were found in half of the samples, up from just 15 per cent in July 2020.

There could be some serious consequences as a result. For one thing, benzodiazepines are highly addictive, LaPointe notes.

"Withdrawing from opioids is difficult but it's nothing compared to withdrawing from benzodiazepines," she said.
Thankfully the one time I had to take benzos was short term and I didn't have a big problem getting off them. I'm sure that was helped by the fact that I absolutely hated them and was overjoyed when I could start weaning off them (stopping cold turkey is dangerous). They made me a space cadet - I'd get up and walk a couple feet to get something from the next room, and then stand there wondering why I was going into that room.
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One threatening note constitutes a breakdown in society.
Yes Vin, I think that letter is the most sickening thing we've seen yet.

And no, saying that doesn't mean we are excusing violent behaviour by individuals in the past.
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