The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread - Page 635

adamuptownsj · #**12681** Posted **Jul 4, 2022, 1:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by ColSJ

Paul Dears is the one who owns the paramount lot. He also owns one on Germain that connects to Princess. Like what Adam said, what is he waiting for? The boom is now.

Apparently it's Daeres' son who is slowly renovating 161 Germain. 171 Germain (the vacant lot) wraps around behind 161, but according to PAOL there is just an easement across the back of 157 to the Princess/Canterbury corner lot. Speaking of that, who owns owns the other lot across Princess? It's only a 14-car lot so you would think selling it would bring in more cash than monthly parking.

Saint John needs to dramatically raise property taxes on lots vacant for 5+ years to spur development- like, 10x. And actually enforce parking lot creation laws. 75 Duke has been a parking lot since it burned down 7-8 years ago and the city doesn't seem interested in enforcing anything.

I'm a bit more of an automobile realist than most people on here. But there's way too much surface parking, especially for institutional use, in the South End. Saint John High staff literally park on prime real estate- at least St Mac's is mostly under the school. 9-19 St James and 237 Germain are the biggest offenders.

There's also the Victor Train lots between Germain/St James/Charlotte/Ross. He owns almost that whole block.

ColSJ · #**12682** Posted **Jul 4, 2022, 2:48 PM**

The city owns that little parking lot. I asked Darling around a year ago if there was any plan for it and the response I got was they were waiting to see how The Telgraph made out.

bridgeoftea · #**12683** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 3:25 PM**

The technology site looks to have some of the foundation walls poured. I'll post some pictures I took in a little bit. The crane as of yesterday was still the only about 10 feet high.

bridgeoftea · #**12684** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 6:18 PM**

Technology Drive progress

adamuptownsj · #**12685** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 6:25 PM**

OK there was a crapton of activity at Tin Can Beach yesterday. See here: https://imgur.com/a/KgPtAWx

bridgeoftea · #**12686** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 6:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

OK there was a crapton of activity at Tin Can Beach yesterday. See here: https://imgur.com/a/KgPtAWx

I wonder if that is just the cleanup of Tin Can site resuming post memorial cup/fair week?

adamuptownsj · #**12687** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 5:44 PM**

Cross posting from the Uptown thread:

Historica-and-Belyea-backed Impact Developments also acquired the Main Street Forum ($300K from JDI) lot as well as the two small lots on Harvey and Main ($13K from the Land Bank). Will have substantial affordable component and be dense.

Brideau mentions 400 units total in the works, so I presume Main Street is ~280 or so at full buildout (Queen Sq is 120)

JHikka · #**12688** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 5:48 PM**

Tentatively hopeful. Will hold my opinion until there's a site plan, particularly concerning on-site parking and street fronting.

NewIreland · #**12689** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 6:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

Cross posting from the Uptown thread:

Historica-and-Belyea-backed Impact Developments also acquired the Main Street Forum ($300K from JDI) lot as well as the two small lots on Harvey and Main ($13K from the Land Bank). Will have substantial affordable component and be dense.

Brideau mentions 400 units total in the works, so I presume Main Street is ~280 or so at full buildout (Queen Sq is 120)

Main Street forum?

cdnguys · #**12690** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by NewIreland

Main Street forum?

Location of the the old Forum, not to be confused with the LBR. Corner of Main and Harvey Streets overlooking power boat club.

NewIreland · #**12691** Posted **Jul 8, 2022, 2:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by cdnguys

Location of the the old Forum, not to be confused with the LBR. Corner of Main and Harvey Streets overlooking power boat club.

Speaking of the LBR, wasn't it supposed to be refurbished? And weren't the lots across the street on Main supposed to be developed?

NewIreland · #**12692** Posted **Jul 8, 2022, 2:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by cdnguys

Location of the the old Forum, not to be confused with the LBR. Corner of Main and Harvey Streets overlooking power boat club.

Speaking of the LBR, wasn't it supposed to be refurbished? And weren't the lots across the street supposed to be developed?

adamuptownsj · #**12693** Posted **Jul 8, 2022, 6:10 PM**

The LBR refurbishment is in process. I believe new defoggers and other equipment took precedence over the cosmetics. Lots across the street have signage up indicating they are available for development too. I guess the plans to build 100+ units there haven't panned out. Not sure if plans are included.

Regarding the lot on Main, I doubt strongly they are taking street frontage into consideration. There's not much to front on and I reckon the development will be more waterfront-oriented. There's also a LOT of fill and drainage work to do. The topography is challenging: the land is basically a raised U with Main along the bottom of the U and the river/motor boat club at the top. Much of the middle of the lot flooded in 2018!

JHikka · #**12694** Posted **Jul 8, 2022, 6:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

Regarding the lot on Main, I doubt strongly they are taking street frontage into consideration. There's not much to front on and I reckon the development will be more waterfront-oriented.

Hm? AFAIK the lot is not waterfront and does front onto Main Street. It might be waterview - when the tide is in and the water covers the mudflats.

adamuptownsj · #**12695** Posted **Jul 8, 2022, 6:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Hm? AFAIK the lot is not waterfront and does front onto Main Street. It might be waterview - when the tide is in and the water covers the mudflats.

It fronts Main but there's not really a streetscape nearby- it's vacant lots and some affordable bungalows. It certainly affords a view of the river regardless of the Marble Cove mudflats, even from ground level, and while not actually bounding the river, it's as close as you can get.

ColSJ · #**12696** Posted **Jul 9, 2022, 7:00 PM**

There is fencing up around a portion of the 3- mile building.

cdnguys · #**12697** Posted **Jul 9, 2022, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by ColSJ

There is fencing up around a portion of the 3- mile building.

Squatters have taken it over so it may be due to that.

adamuptownsj · #**12698** Posted **Jul 9, 2022, 8:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by cdnguys

Squatters have taken it over so it may be due to that.

I believe it's coming down for Popeyes, no?

bridgeoftea · #**12699** Posted **Jul 10, 2022, 1:04 AM**

Anyone know what's up with the site on Main? I swear they stopped putting the siding on it like 4 months ago. Just sitting like quarter finished. No activity seems to happen, at all!

cdnguys · #**12700** Posted **Jul 10, 2022, 2:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by bridgeoftea

Anyone know what's up with the site on Main? I swear they stopped putting the siding on it like 4 months ago. Just sitting like quarter finished. No activity seems to happen, at all!

My friend lives nearby and said there is a lone guy putting on siding. I did notice little by little some siding going on. My guess is they can’t find tradespeople. Meanwhile the apartment building on Boars Head Road almost appears overnight !