Great Canadian Skyline Thread II - Page 1013

Rico Rommheim · #**20241** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 2:28 PM**

That is correct. PVM was the world's 20th tallest building in 1962 (when measured by rooftop height). CIBC was the 23rd.

When tour de la bourse was built 1 year later, it was also the 20th tallest.

Of course even more impressive was the BMO tower in TO. which was the 7th tallest in the world.

WhipperSnapper · #**20242** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 2:29 PM**

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I think Place Ville-Marie was also the tallest building in the British Empire or Commonwealth and one point, and may have been the tallest building outside of the USA as well.

Will stand corrected if not true.

There's some Stalinist designs taller than PVM. I don't know if that includes roof height. It's definitely ranked in the top 3 for modernist post war skyscrapers

Rico Rommheim · #**20243** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 2:34 PM**

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Was the height limit established in part to the towers built in the early 1960s? I'm thinking these towers may have been over 200 metres were they designed around the mid 1960s (and the height limit wasn't established yet.

Somebody can correct me, but I don't think there was a height limit in this part of downtown in the 60's. Montreal had a strict height limit of 40m until like 1923 or something.

PVM, CIBC and Bourse all fell short of 200m for non height limit related reasons.

Also, PVM's 188m equals over 600ft tall. So in an era where the metric system wasn't really a thing here, developers building three 600ft towers (instead of three 190m) seemed legit.

OTSkyline · #**20244** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 3:33 PM**

Beautiful Toronto set on the previous page! Man, CIBC Square is a beauty

HomeInMyShoes · #**20245** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 3:43 PM**

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Beautiful Toronto set on the previous page! Man, CIBC Square is a beauty

Yeah, I was going to say how good Number One Bloor looks at night as well.

Martin Mtl · #**20246** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 4:50 PM**

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240 to 275 metres is a 2020 number. There was no China. There was no Middle East. There wasn't a Chicago. PVM was the largest or close to the largest tower when built. It was also one of the tallest. Montreal was ahead of the pack in the post war skyscraper boom. One wonders if they started five years later.

Yeah. I dont think anyone back in 1962 thought that PVM was too short... And, of course, it's not. Its proportions are just fines. On SSP it seems that no building is tall enough.

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esquire · #**20247** Posted **Jul 6, 2022, 6:28 PM**

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There's some Stalinist designs taller than PVM. I don't know if that includes roof height. It's definitely ranked in the top 3 for modernist post war skyscrapers

There are some Stalinist spires that peek over the top of PVM, but the latter was definitely a heavyweight by global standards when it was built.

https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=97887146&page=1

For what it's worth I love PVM's proportions. It's a formidable building, it has impressive width to go along with its height. I don't think it's so wide as to look stumpy, though.

Coldrsx · #**20248** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 2:59 AM**

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWx7WeiXgAI7lu3?format=jpg&name=medium

Hali87 · #**20249** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 3:30 AM**

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kool maudit · #**20250** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 11:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

240 to 275 metres is a 2020 number. There was no China. There was no Middle East. There wasn't a Chicago. PVM was the largest or close to the largest tower when built. It was also one of the tallest. Montreal was ahead of the pack in the post war skyscraper boom. One wonders if they started five years later.

You're right. But it's still too stubby. Let's say 220-230, in line with the Boston Prudential Tower, which has a similar kind of aesthetic.

J.OT13 · #**20251** Posted **Jul 8, 2022, 6:39 PM**

More of Harley613's shots of Ottawa-Gatineau.

First one is, from left to right, the CBD, Escarpment District, Dow's Lake, Zibi and Tunney's Pasture. Second is the Tunney's Pasture and Westboro skylines. Third is from a new tower at Walkley (south end of old Ottawa), looking north-west with downtown just out of frame to the right (east).

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Close-up views from inside the site, and a panorama from the top looking West.

Rico Rommheim · #**20252** Posted **Jul 8, 2022, 7:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

Yeah. I dont think anyone back in 1962 thought that PVM was too short... And, of course, it's not. Its proportions are just fines. On SSP it seems that no building is tall enough.

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Not only does PVM look tall and sleek here, but the Sun Life looks particularly vertical.

le calmar · #**20253** Posted **Jul 8, 2022, 7:51 PM**

Interesting, I didn’t realize CIBC didn’t have an antenna in the early days either.

Coldrsx · #**20254** Posted **Jul 9, 2022, 2:45 PM**

https://twitter.com/kmoorephotos/status/1545238194995597312

Martin Mtl · #**20255** Posted **Jul 9, 2022, 3:58 PM**

Panorama...

by viciousphotodc on flickr

Photo: MauriceP on Flickr

MolsonExport · #**20256** Posted **Jul 9, 2022, 4:56 PM**

I was just in Montreal. The amount of high rise construction downtown is staggering.

NewIreland · #**20257** Posted **Jul 9, 2022, 5:13 PM**

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https://twitter.com/kmoorephotos/status/1545238194995597312

How did Edmonton not get chosen to host WC games? This is my favorite stadium in Canada by far. What a beauty.

AuxTown · #**20258** Posted **Jul 9, 2022, 6:08 PM**

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How did Edmonton not get chosen to host WC games? This is my favorite stadium in Canada by far. What a beauty.

Because Edmonton got greedy! They wanted more games and they didn't want to have to pay for anything

Now they get nothing!

TorontoDrew · #**20259** Posted **Jul 10, 2022, 1:00 AM**

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Montreal was considered the world's second tallest skyline for a very short period in the mid 1960s, before Chicago went on a tear (and then, Toronto).

Do you just mean modern office towers? I would have thought several other American cities would have been been ahead of Montreal.

Odyssey · #**20260** Posted **Jul 10, 2022, 2:58 AM**

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Do you just mean modern office towers? I would have thought several other American cities would have been been ahead of Montreal.

Yeah Chicago and Detroit have a lot of old buildings that are taller than anything in Montreal.