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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 4:59 PM
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Sounds like it is all but confirmed, Rick…..Bowness. Did the have to blow the dust off him.

My only hope is that this is a one year appointment and they hire Trotz next year.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 5:03 PM
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Bowness being a defensive coach hopefully shores up our weak point so Helly stays
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 5:05 PM
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Bowness hiring comes out of left field but its better than Tocchet and he knows Winnipeg being an assistant here in the 80's with the Jets and being a veteran coach I think signals they are not going full scale blow up and rebuild but rather make some changes and retool for another playoff push.
I think it likely signals the opposite. Bowness was not even a candidate anywhere else. I think he's a placeholder for 1-2 season and this likely spells a big roster change to set the stage for the next core group/head coach.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 6:07 PM
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It's interesting that Babcock is never part of the conversation. The guy's record is stellar. And yeah yeah I know Marner. But people can change.
If anyone's been blackballed by the NHL at this stage it's Babcock. Would be surprised to see him back on any NHL bench. Same with Bill Peters.

Actually, knowing the NHL, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see them back behind a bench, but you know what I mean.

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I think it likely signals the opposite. Bowness was not even a candidate anywhere else. I think he's a placeholder for 1-2 season and this likely spells a big roster change to set the stage for the next core group/head coach.
I'm not convinced. If WPG pushes hard for Trotz it's because they're in win-now mode; Trotz isn't signing up for a rebuild. Bowness as backup-backup option, or whatever he is, is probably their attempt at pushing forward with the current core with a veteran coach. If things don't go to plan this year then blow the whole thing up and have Bowness as a placeholder until the team can be rebuilt, bringing in someone better to build the team up (Trotz or whomever). Team feels rudderless at this point.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 7:18 PM
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It's interesting that Babcock is never part of the conversation. The guy's record is stellar. And yeah yeah I know Marner. But people can change.
Got out of the first round of the playoffs once in his last nine seasons as a head coach.

Not that stellar.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 7:34 PM
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I can’t wait for another mediocre season where we’re just below the wild card spot and end up with the 14th pick again.

After this hire I really hope this is Chevy’s last year.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 7:36 PM
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Detroit just hired Derek Lalonde maybe we can sign Barry Long or Alpo Suhonen again or maybe Jean Perron? wait wait Rick Bowness that's the ticket to success
Woah Thurmas! You called it! Got the lotto numbers for next week?
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 7:36 PM
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Looks like the Jets got their man, the 14th rated best coach available this off season!
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 7:49 PM
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Bowness went all the way to the cup finals with a so-so Dallas club a few seasons ago. Yeah...I'm trying to look for some positives here. I do like him more than Tocchet, that's for sure.

Montgomery would have been a nice consolation prize to Trotz, but once a bigger market team like Boston came calling it was going to be a long shot, even with Boston having an older roster and appearing to be closer to a rebuild.

Fun fact: Bowness was last head coach of the Winnipeg Jets 33 years ago in 1989.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 8:37 PM
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Woah Thurmas! You called it! Got the lotto numbers for next week?
I better get my 649 ticket tonight i am shocked I called it as I was only half joking but Chipman sure loves his guys having manitoba connections.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 9:21 PM
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What are you smoking or drinking? You must be the only person on the planet who would take Tocchet over Trotz. Tocchet is like a .400 career head coaching record never won a playoff round and has only guided a team to the playoffs once in his whole career. I rather take a chance on a junior or ahl up and coming coach than a retread like Tocchet.
As assistant coach to the Pittsburgh he won TWO Stanley CUPS.

You seem to be basing his performance from Arizona. Like come on. No coach in the NHL could turn Arizona around. As all they are is a place to dump players.

But that doesn't matter now. We now have or will have the lowest rated coach....should have just left Lowry in and saved some money. I hope we won't be paying this other has-been big dollars.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 9:35 PM
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a good point i saw on one of the fan forums is that True North needs a first round playoff appearance to break even. The team would struggle big time if it did a full on Buffalo or Ottawa blow up and rebuild type situation and not sure the team could survive being out of the hunt of the playoffs that long with attendance struggles already happening this past year and everyone poorer these days with inflation. Trying to be competitive and compete for that 8th playoff spot with Bowness who got a lot out of a so so Dallas team does make some economic sense. Looks like we are back to the days of Jets 1.0 again fighting for that last playoff spot.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 9:38 PM
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a good point i saw on one of the fan forums is that True North needs a first round playoff appearance to break even. The team would struggle big time if it did a full on Buffalo or Ottawa blow up and rebuild type situation and not sure the team could survive being out of the hunt of the playoffs that long with attendance struggles already happening this past year and everyone poorer these days with inflation. Trying to be competitive and compete for that 8th playoff spot with Bowness who got a lot out of a so so Dallas team does make some economic sense. Looks like we are back to the days of Jets 1.0 again fighting for that last playoff spot.
Or he is here for one year to fill in till Trotz wants to coach again. Seeing as he is a defensive coach like Trotz there might be some meaning to the madness.

I still believe Trotz will end up here as a coach or Manager.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 9:39 PM
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As assistant coach to the Pittsburgh he won TWO Stanley CUPS.

You seem to be basing his performance from Arizona. Like come on. No coach in the NHL could turn Arizona around. As all they are is a place to dump players.

But that doesn't matter now. We now have or will have the lowest rated coach....should have just left Lowry in and saved some money. I hope we won't be paying this other has-been big dollars.
all that means is Tocchet was a guest on the Crosby and Malkin show. Tocchet was HC in Tampa too with a prime Vinny Lecalvalier and a young Stamkos and made them worse.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 9:41 PM
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Or he is here for one year to fill in till Trotz wants to coach again. Seeing as he is a defensive coach like Trotz there might be some meaning to the madness.

I still believe Trotz will end up here as a coach or Manager.
I could see Trotz possibly taking over as GM in 1 year as Chevy is on very thin ice but I think Trotz days as a coach might be done as the stress from it and his age he probably wants the management position.
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2022, 9:49 PM
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I could see Trotz possibly taking over as GM in 1 year as Chevy is on very thin ice but I think Trotz days as a coach might be done as the stress from it and his age he probably wants the management position.
I'd love him as coach obviously as I'd feel like we have a chance. But in reality I'd really like to see him as manager of the team. He's been around so long now and seems like a knowledgeable guy that he'd draft well and taken us further then Chevy. I don't hate Chevy as he's better then most but he has run us a little into the ground now. But you are probably right on Trotz wanting to coach again. It has to be a very stressful job.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2022, 2:15 AM
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Bowness > Tocchet.

That’s the positive I can find in this.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2022, 2:33 PM
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I expect we'll get a storm of happy-thought pieces from Jets management and our local sports media about the Bowness hiring, but unless he's able to start putting a considerable amount of wins together I doubt Jets fans will be buying. Hate to say it, but it looks like the decade (or more) of mediocrity has begun.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2022, 2:45 PM
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/article/in-bown...o-can-instill-sound-defensive-structure/

In choosing Bowness, the Jets will lean on a lifetime of experience

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July 1, 2022, 6:26 PM
WINNIPEG — He’s a hockey lifer, a guy who has essentially seen and done it all, outside of getting his name engraved on the Stanley Cup.

Rick Bowness has served in a variety of roles after wrapping up his nine-year professional playing career and nobody has been behind the bench (as a head coach or assistant) for more regular season games than him, a tally that’s currently at 2,562 and counting.



There was a widely-held belief that Bowness might be ready to retire, but he dismissed that theory after he stepped down as head coach of the Dallas Stars last month.

And after an exhaustive head coaching search that began with the pursuit of Barry Trotz, the Winnipeg Jets are set to officially unveil Bowness as the fourth head coach in 2.0 franchise history at some point this weekend.

“You’re not going to meet a finer person on or off the ice — he’s just a great human being, he does everything right and he’s a first-class individual,” Dallas Stars general manager Jim Nill said in a telephone interview on Friday afternoon. “He gives everything he’s got to the team. It’s all about the team and he did a great job for us.”

The other finalists for the Jets’ head coaching job were former Detroit Red Wings bench boss Jeff Blashill, Columbus Blue Jackets associate coach Pascal Vincent, TNT analyst Rick Tocchet, and Washington Capitals assistant coach Scott Arniel.

The Jets chose not to drop the interim tag from Dave Lowry’s title and he was dismissed at the end of the season (going 26-22-6 after taking over for Paul Maurice on Dec. 17) along with assistant coaches Charlie Huddy and Jamie Kompon.

Goalie coach Wade Flaherty remains on a Jets staff that will be rounded out during the coming days and weeks.

The Jets were among the first teams to have a vacancy for the head coaching position, but they were the 11th team to fill the job.

In choosing Bowness, the Jets are leaning on his vast array of experience, with the hope he can receive a buy-in when it comes to defensive commitment.


“I would say passion and energy. He’s been with some good teams, he’s been on some long runs and he knows how hard it is, so he wants the guys to enjoy coming to the rink but he wants the guys coming to the rink knowing that there’s a job to do. That’s just his personality,” said Vegas Golden Knights assistant coach John Stevens, who spent three seasons on the Stars staff with Bowness. “He’s the most senior guy in the league, but you wouldn’t know it by the excitement he brings to the rink. I’m not surprised that he still wants to do it at his age (67).

“We’re in a business that is demanding and stressful and has a lot of expectations, but Bones has a really good understanding of that and works hard at building relationships with his players where there is a mutual respect for what’s asked of them and what they have to go through to compete as athletes. He’s been in the game a long time, he’s played the game and he knows that. He does a good job of communicating with the players and letting them know where they stand.”

Arniel is a candidate to join the Jets coaching staff as an associate coach, while former Manitoba Moose captain and former Vancouver Canucks assistant coach Nolan Baumgartner is one of the possibilities being considered to run the defence corps after he recently served as an assistant coach for Claude Julien with Team Canada at the 2022 IIHF World Men’s Hockey Championship.

Bowness has strong ties to the 1.0 version of the Jets, having served as a player, assistant coach, and a head coach with the organization.

He also got a head start on his coaching career as a player/coach with the Sherbrooke Jets of the American Hockey League back in the 1982-83 season.

Bowness spent parts of the past three seasons as the head coach of the Stars, guiding the team to a record of 89-62-25 (.579 winning percentage) and leading it to the Stanley Cup final in 2020, before losing to the Tampa Bay Lightning.

During his time with the Stars, Bowness was known for his ability to instill a sound defensive structure and he was instrumental in the development of several young blue-liners — including Miro Heiskanen, Esa Lindell, and John Klingberg.

That ability to connect with veterans and young players could be essential in this job with the Jets, who need to find room for Ville Heinola on a defence corps that should also include Dylan Samberg as a regular next season.

“When we brought him in, that was his niche. We knew he was great with young defencemen. We had seen it in Tampa Bay and the other teams he had been with,” said Nill. “When we hired him as an assistant, that was his real strength and he continued that as a head coach also. It’s about how he treats people. He’s got a great way of connecting with them and has a great feel for that part of the game.

“He treats people fair. He’ll be hard on them, but fair. They’re going to respect him and that’s the way that it has to be. He is the head coach and he’s going to have to make some tough decisions, but they’re going to respect the decisions he makes. He does a good job of that.”

Bowness has also overseen the transition of a core group, as Dallas captain Jamie Benn and centre Tyler Seguin moved into more of a complementary role after the emergence of Jason Robertson and Roope Hintz and the arrival of veteran forward Joe Pavelski to the top line.

Something similar could be on the horizon in the not-too-distant future with the Jets, depending on how things evolve during the off-season.

The ability to integrate youth, while still getting contributions from the veterans in the lineup is another area of strength for Bowness.

“That’s just the art of coaching and just having a feel for when it’s time to push a guy a little bit more or to give him freedom and a time to pull the reins back, especially some of the young guys,” said Derek Laxdal, who spent the past three seasons on the Stars staff with Bowness and could be a candidate to join the Jets to run the power play. “With the older guys, the idea of building those relationships and gaining that trust from within the group, that’s the art of building a hockey club and building the culture that you want.”

Bowness was an assistant coach with the Jets back in 1984-85 when Nill was traded to Winnipeg by the Boston Bruins and expressing his love for the game is not a new development.

“That was evident back then,” said Nill. “He was there to support the players, but he also wanted you to get better and make you accountable for it. You could see that he always had passion. As a player he had passion and as a coach, he’s got passion and it’s never changed.

“He’s very upbeat. He comes to the rink with a smile on his face.”

Bowness was an assistant coach with the Stars for parts of two seasons before he took over on an interim basis after Jim Montgomery was dismissed for unprofessional conduct in December of 2019.

The interim tag was removed after Bowness led the Stars to the Stanley Cup final during the bubble playoffs.

They missed the playoffs by four points in 2020-21 and then finished fourth in the Central Division this past season and captured the first wild card before bowing out in the first round of the playoffs to the Calgary Flames in seven games, despite a heroic effort from goalie Jake Oettinger.

“He did a great job for us,” said Nill. “He came into a situation where he was an assistant coach working with the defence, he stepped in and took us to the Stanley Cup final and had two more really good seasons with us, under a lot of adverse situations.”

Bowness has also served as head coach of the expansion Ottawa Senators, Boston Bruins and New York Islanders, while working as an assistant or associate with the Phoenix Coyotes (spending 20 additional games as the interim head coach), the Vancouver Canucks and Tampa Bay Lightning — including five seasons on Jon Cooper’s staff.

“The experience that he has with dealing with players at different timeframes, he’s dealt with every type of player,” said Laxdal. “Even with the new-age player, he’s really adapted himself to be able to communicate with them and to build relationships.

“It goes back to the old saying, players don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care. (Bowness) exemplifies that phrase and that pays dividends for his ability to get a response from his players to perform at the highest level and to bring the team together at special times.”

The Jets are coming off a season where they failed to meet expectations, missing the playoffs with a record of 39-32-11, which left them sixth in the Central Division standings and 11th in the Western Conference with 89 points.

There has been a great deal of speculation about the direction the Jets are going to take when it comes to personnel, with the names of several core pieces swirling in trade rumours.

With the 2022 NHL Draft just around the corner, the Jets will be focusing on having two first-round selections for the first time since 2016, when they selected Finnish winger Patrik Laine second overall and then traded up to get defenceman Logan Stanley with the 18th pick.

But with free agency around the corner, there’s also the potential for several deals to be made during the coming week, especially since the Jets have a surplus of defencemen who won’t be exempt from waivers (not including the aforementioned Heinola or fellow prospect Declan Chisholm).

Bowness is expected to meet with the media on Monday and you can be sure he’s going to be ready to attack this latest challenge with the enthusiasm that has become his calling card.

While the Stars were known as a tight-checking team that didn’t score a lot, Bowness should have a bit more offensive weaponry at his disposal and if he’s able to get the Jets to improve their defensive commitment level. If he does, this union has the potential to be a successful one.

The misnomer about Bowness’ style is that he’s simply a defence-first guy that doesn’t care about the offensive side of the game. That couldn’t be further from the truth.

“One thing Rick has a really good feel for … and I wouldn’t call it the defensive game … I’d call it the checking game,” said Laxdal. “And checking with your feet. His philosophy of the game starts with the checking part of the game, getting above (the puck) and checking with your sticks in all three zones. That just ties into the whole defensive side of the game.

“He instills that, he believes in it and from that, you’re not sitting back and defending, you get a chance to get the puck back and then you have the freedom and creativity to go on the offence and perform. That’s a key part. When you struggle to score goals, it’s more important to learn how to check. With him coming to Winnipeg, he’s going to have more firepower and more offensive weapons to work with. The two sides will be a good fit.”
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2022, 2:50 PM
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Nolan Baumgartner is a good guy I remember working out with him at Shapes on Pembina when he played for the Moose. Chipman must have some sort of rule that with coaches and management that they must have Manitoba connections of some sort before they get a sniff to work for the club.
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