Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Glass supply is hard to find these days, and slow.

Yes, and there are plenty of other windows to break there, so the logic of keeping one boarded doesn’t add up.

[whatnext]

From CTV yesterday:

Woman slashed in neck with machete in Vancouver stranger attack says she thought she was going to die
Alissa Thibault
Published June 24, 2022 6:31 a.m. PDT

A woman who was attacked by a complete stranger armed with a machete on the streets of Vancouver is sharing her story.

Around 7 p.m. Sunday, Casey Janulis and a friend were loading their luggage into the back of a cab outside the Empress Hotel on the Downtown Eastside. Janulis said a man then walked by her, carrying an umbrella.

“He looked at me almost as if I insulted him or said something but there were no words exchanged,” Janulis said. Moments later, she felt a sting on the back of her neck.

“I heard a woman’s voice scream out ‘that’s not an umbrella, that’s a machete’ and that’s when all the blood poured everywhere, in my eyes, on the pavement,” she said....

....Janulis is now dealing with the aftermath of her attack. She has “over 30” stitches and staples holding her wound together, she has no feeling from her neck to the top of her head and said she can’t feel her hands when she first wakes up in the morning. She’s also terrified.

“Like sitting here, if somebody walks by, I’m jumpy,” she said.

Janulis doesn’t live in Vancouver. On the day of the attack she was visiting a friend and in the process of moving to the Sunshine Coast to work on her art. But since the attack she’s been living in a hotel away from the Downtown Eastside.

“I’m not from here, I’ve never been on Hastings, I didn’t get the memo,” she said.....

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/woman-slashed-in-n...e-thought-she-was-going-to-die-1.5961415

[FarmerHaight]

Thought I would try to spur some constructive discussion in this thread.

Here is an article I heard in podcast form from the NYT's Daily podcast.

How Houston Moved 25,000 People From the Streets Into Homes of Their Own

How many people are living in "chronic homelessness" in Greater Van? How much would it cost per person to house them? Is there even sufficient supply in the private market to absorb the homeless?

[Vin]

Originally Posted by whatnext

From CTV yesterday:

Woman slashed in neck with machete in Vancouver stranger attack says she thought she was going to die
Alissa Thibault
Published June 24, 2022 6:31 a.m. PDT

A woman who was attacked by a complete stranger armed with a machete on the streets of Vancouver is sharing her story.

Around 7 p.m. Sunday, Casey Janulis and a friend were loading their luggage into the back of a cab outside the Empress Hotel on the Downtown Eastside. Janulis said a man then walked by her, carrying an umbrella.

“He looked at me almost as if I insulted him or said something but there were no words exchanged,” Janulis said. Moments later, she felt a sting on the back of her neck.

“I heard a woman’s voice scream out ‘that’s not an umbrella, that’s a machete’ and that’s when all the blood poured everywhere, in my eyes, on the pavement,” she said....

....Janulis is now dealing with the aftermath of her attack. She has “over 30” stitches and staples holding her wound together, she has no feeling from her neck to the top of her head and said she can’t feel her hands when she first wakes up in the morning. She’s also terrified.

“Like sitting here, if somebody walks by, I’m jumpy,” she said.

Janulis doesn’t live in Vancouver. On the day of the attack she was visiting a friend and in the process of moving to the Sunshine Coast to work on her art. But since the attack she’s been living in a hotel away from the Downtown Eastside.

“I’m not from here, I’ve never been on Hastings, I didn’t get the memo,” she said.....

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/woman-slashed-in-n...e-thought-she-was-going-to-die-1.5961415

I bet many from Vancouver also "didn't get the memo", or simply refuse to "get the memo", until it's too late.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

As I noted, it was a sarcastic comment. Klazu takes plenty of beautiful pictures which I appreciate.

But it's not soiling someone's reputation when he literally has posted pictures of his car on here, and recently referred to his vehicle as a "performance SUV".

When you singled out a couple of the "performance SUV" pictures, one can see the malicious nature of the comment. Otherwise what's the point of doing it. Klazu posted a thousand other photos in and around this city with many themes, so please share why you would focus on this particular one.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Vin

When you singled out a couple of the "performance SUV" pictures, one can see the malicious nature of the comment. Otherwise what's the point of doing it. Klazu posted a thousand other photos in and around this city with many themes, so please share why you would focus on this particular one.

Is Klazu paying you, or do you run around defending him because you're trying to kiss his ass?

He routinely makes posts insulting other people. I think he can handle some criticism.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by Vin

When you singled out a couple of the "performance SUV" pictures, one can see the malicious nature of the comment. Otherwise what's the point of doing it. Klazu posted a thousand other photos in and around this city with many themes, so please share why you would focus on this particular one.

It was not malicious. Acajack said that the only thing Klazu is known for is "posting photos that show how beautiful Vancouver is", and I answered this ridiculous statement with some sarcasm which I clearly indicated. Most of Klazu's time is spent offering his two cents on a wide range of topics, not posting photos of Vancouver.

I would suggest Klazu is also known for a few other things:

• Advocating for more road space allocated to private vehicles at the expense of bikes, pedestrians, and public transit
• Railing against any social services that don't involve forcing addicts into rehabilitation centres against their will
• Constantly complaining about Vancouver's viewcones
• Striving to live among upper-class people
• Clamoring for a driver filled with road rage to give environmental protesters what he believes they deserve

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

It was not malicious. Acajack said that the only thing Klazu is known for is "posting photos that show how beautiful Vancouver is", and I answered this ridiculous statement with some sarcasm which I clearly indicated.

I referred to the only thing *I* knew him for.

[jlousa]

That's enough everyone, stay ontopic.

[whatnext]

This must be a new low. Time to stop using the "mental illness" excuse for these dangerous losers:

Baby in stroller attacked in downtown Vancouver
Amir Ali
Jun 30 2022

Davie Village near the attack (Google Maps)
Vancouver police are asking witnesses to come forward as they investigate an attack involving a glass bottle and a baby in a stroller.

VPD received a report of a man throwing a glass bottle at a baby on June 27 around 4:30 pm near the intersection of Davie and Bidwell, in Davie Village.

The caller who made the report to the police said the bottle didn’t physically strike the baby but that the contents of the glass bottle splashed the baby and the adults with him....

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/glass-bottle-baby-vancouver?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

[theKB]

It's amazing to see what vancouver will become if this continues - was just down in portland and that was absolutely next level. Tents and structures everywhere. People literally standing in the middle of the sidewalk smoking heroin off tin foil (that was a nice scent to introduce an 11 year old to). Office buildings and lots of retail boarded up and covered in graffiti and the kicker. Armed Guards in many retail stores (Nordstrom and Whole foods to name a few). Even got to witness two clearly homeless people get into a fight in the middle of the street in front of a street car.

The tents are also not relegated to the downtown core. They are literally everywhere. Residential areas etc. Very little police presence.

What i really find scary in relation to vancouver situation is they do not clear the streets there of the tents/structures which the VPD and city were doing to clean the streets up until last month and of course east hastings is now blocks of tents and structures. I am just wondering how far this will spread beyond the DTES.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by theKB

It's amazing to see what vancouver will become if this continues - was just down in portland and that was absolutely next level. Tents and structures everywhere. People literally standing in the middle of the sidewalk smoking heroin off tin foil (that was a nice scent to introduce an 11 year old to). Office buildings and lots of retail boarded up and covered in graffiti and the kicker. Armed Guards in many retail stores (Nordstrom and Whole foods to name a few). Even got to witness two clearly homeless people get into a fight in the middle of the street in front of a street car.

The tents are also not relegated to the downtown core. They are literally everywhere. Residential areas etc. Very little police presence.

What i really find scary in relation to vancouver situation is they do not clear the streets there of the tents/structures which the VPD and city were doing to clean the streets up until last month and of course east hastings is now blocks of tents and structures. I am just wondering how far this will spread beyond the DTES.

Unless stiff rules with enforcement are introduced, we are witnessing the dearth of civil society as we know today, especially in city centre cores. The so-called liberal leaders are apparently cowards for being unable to solve or even tackle this crisis. Vancouver is no exception. This morning, I saw so many passed out drug addicts in so many parts of downtown. They need to be hauled away so that they can't get to their drugs. This is the only way to save them.

There was a time when Chinese opium addicts were called "Sick Men of the East", which also coincided with the decline of China under the rule of foreigners, or the brutal Manchurians who were originally tribesmen from Siberia, during the Qing dynasty. These "takers" did not care what would happen to the people, and China became impoverished as a result. Seriously, we are seeing the same thing happening here in North America for the past couple of decades. There is simply no good news when you let drugs become so widespread and accepted in society while those in charge continue to be apathetic as they reap in the bounties from those who are still willing to work and pay taxes. Society simply grinds to a halt and then starts decaying rapidly, and the nation grows weak. Internal strife and violence ensue. Sounds familiar?

Today we are seeing the emergence of "The Sick Men of the West". North America is leading the pack.

[jollyburger]

Machete-wielding man Tasered in Gastown
Tourists in Gastown got more than they bargained for as a man ran through the streets brandishing a machete on Thursday (July 7).

“It was pretty insane,” said Victoria Jetko, a barber at Abbot Street’s Barber and Co. “He was in the middle of the street. We saw a huge blade. It was a machete. He was swinging it.

“It was nuts.”

The events unfolded around noon and ended outside the site of the Winter Hotel, which burned down in April.

It was right in front of the shop where Vancouverite Derek Manky was getting a lunchtime haircut when he saw multiple police officers chasing the man.

“This guy was running with a machete,” Manky said. “There was obviously a heavy police presence. They blocked the road off.”

Jetko said she saw multiple officers and paramedics.

Manky said he heard what sounded like a shot but Jetko said it turned out to be the firing of a Taser to take the man down.

Jetko said the man appeared to have some respiratory issues after he was Tasered and was attended to by paramedics.

“He went right down,” she said. “Never a dull moment down here in Gastown.”

Vancouver Police Department did not respond to a request for comment.

https://www.nsnews.com/bc-news/machete-wielding-man-tasered-in-gastown-5560875

New tent city forming on Hastings Street in DTES
The city deployed additional garbage bins along Hastings earlier this week and will provide “garbage bags, gloves and other cleanup tools to community stewards and organizations,” Taryn Scollard, deputy general manager of engineering, said in a statement.

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City sanitation workers pass by daily to sweep trash from the sidewalk and streets, but the increasing number of tents sometimes makes access difficult.

Zak said the city is working with community groups and non-profits to support “micro-cleaning” initiatives that will see community members and organizations take responsibility for keeping particular stretches of the street free of garbage or structures, like tents, that block the sidewalk. Money previously allocated for VPD officers to accompany city staff will be used to fund the new initiatives, at considerably lower cost.

Smedley said that the sudden announcement by the VPD that officers would stop accompanying city workers during street sweeps meant “everybody was caught off-guard.”

“There wasn’t adequate time to do planning to have a smooth transition to a better approach, a more respectful, humane approach,” he said. “And so everybody’s kind of scrambling right now.”

https://vancouversun.com/news/new-tent-city-forming-on-hastings-street-in-dtes

[Vin]

This is classic:

“There wasn’t adequate time to do planning to have a smooth transition to a better approach, a more respectful, humane approach,” he said. “And so everybody’s kind of scrambling right now.”

Asking the City this rhetorical question: "Why would you expect VPD constables to accompany City sanitation crew when they are defunded by YOU, and money allocated to the pockets of others?"

[s211]

Originally Posted by Vin

This is classic:


Asking the City this rhetorical question: "Why would you expect VPD constables to accompany City sanitation crew when they are defunded by YOU, and money allocated to the pockets of others?"

I'm sure the City views the VPD as nothing much different than lawyers: vermin, until you need one.

[mezzanine]

LOL, i'm sure more cops will fix this

[wabooba]

Homelessness is on the rise everywhere, including major European centres like London and Paris. Examples:
https://cdni0.trtworld.com/w960/q75/1196...magea101_1477662035126_1638282827476.jpg
... that's in Paris, or
https://static.standard.co.uk/2021/01/12...o=webp&quality=50&crop=968%3A645%2Csmart
... in London ...

https://cdni.russiatoday.com/files/2019.11/xxl/5de1328185f5404fb773e9e3.JPG ... and in Sweden.

One might expect homelessness in poor, Third World countries, but not in prosperous countries such as in Western Europe, and in Canada, which flaunts its "Highest Quality of Life" ranking shamelessly.
This should not be happening. And that is intended as an understatement.
Availability of housing has to go up. And the cost for people below a certain income has to come down. Just how? Seek, and you shall surely find an answer or answers. A total overhaul in social policy and public finance seems in order, and an implementation of such, both budgetarily and in building affordable housing has got to come. Case closed.

[jollyburger]

One person is seriously hurt after a stabbing in Downtown Vancouver during the Monday morning commute.

Smithe Street was closed between Homer and Mainland streets. Vancouver police say someone was stabbed at around 8:30 a.m.

The victim has been hospitalized with serious injuries. A suspect is in custody, but no further details have been released.

It’s unclear how long the road closure will be in effect.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/07/11/vancouver-stabbing-downtown/

[jollyburger]

Homicide. Probably knew each other.

Vancouver Police are investigating the city’s eighth homicide of 2022, after a man was stabbed in Yaletown Monday morning.

A bystander called 9-1-1 around 8:30 a.m. to report a man had been stabbed near Smithe and Homer Street. When VPD officers arrived moments later, they discovered a 29-year-old victim suffering grave injuries. The man was taken to hospital, but he died a short time later.

A 34-year-old woman was arrested nearby and is currently in custody.

https://vpd.ca/news/2022/07/11/vpd-investigates-yaletown-homicide/

[Vin]

Originally Posted by s211

I'm sure the City views the VPD as nothing much different than lawyers: vermin, until you need one.

Yes, just like they treat anyone else they can use and abuse. Business owners are good examples..... they pay exorbitant taxes but receive minimal business support and protection.