Burnaby Updates

[Klazu]

The Brentwood West plan is too dense. They should axe the 39-storey tower from the middle. Otherwise the architecture for the first two towers looks great. They could have just used a photo that is not give years old...

[Vin]

Originally Posted by yvrTAB2

These youngsters wouldn't be able to afford to rent these units.

They can work, get loans or receive assistance from parents.

Without these micro-suites, they will need roomies to pack into musty shacks in tired-looking hoods, while still footing the same amount of rent, and that's the difference.

In Yaletown, the Wall rental building is fully occupied with loads of youths. Obviously, many of these tenants are not able to afford the condos in the neighbourhood, but somehow they manage to stay downtown because of this rental tower. So what say you?

[Spr0ckets]

It's crazy to imagine that in as little as under the coming decade, The Amazing Brentwood will likely be dwarfed by the neighbouring projects coming down the pipe - with two of its immediate neighbours currently having 50+ and 64+ towers within their developments.

And that's not even factoring in what could end up in the Cartier Dealership. just south of them, whenever that gets sold and redeveloped

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Klazu

The Brentwood West plan is too dense. They should axe the 39-storey tower from the middle. Otherwise the architecture for the first two towers looks great. They could have just used a photo that is not give years old...

If they took out the res from the middle tower and added it to the other 3 that would sort it. The lower levels having dense office midrises is fine, but the res is too tightly packed.

[GenWhy?]

Are new rentals for studios still over $1,600 over there?

[Lisaismyfav]

Originally Posted by Klazu

The Brentwood West plan is too dense. They should axe the 39-storey tower from the middle. Otherwise the architecture for the first two towers looks great. They could have just used a photo that is not give years old...

Yeah it's even tighter than some highrises in Hong Kong which is ridiculous.

[Metro-One]

The browsers on my IPhone won’t open documents, any info on tower heights for phase one? (and beyond?).

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

The browsers on my IPhone won’t open documents, any info on tower heights for phase one? (and beyond?).

Unfortunately, no heights given in measurement or geodetic units.

It's a conceptual master plan and master servicing plan document application, so heights are only noted in total storey or floor numbers and all you get are basic massing of the towers.

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

Unfortunately, no heights given in measurement or geodetic units.

It's a conceptual master plan and master servicing plan document application, so heights are only noted in total storey or floor numbers and all you get are basic massing of the towers.

Ah, okay. Thank you very much for the response!

[VarBreStr18]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

It's crazy to imagine that in as little as under the coming decade, The Amazing Brentwood will likely be dwarfed by the neighbouring projects coming down the pipe - with two of its immediate neighbours currently having 50+ and 64+ towers within their developments.

And that's not even factoring in what could end up in the Cartier Dealership. just south of them, whenever that gets sold and redeveloped

Nah, the Amazing Brentwood (AMB) will still be the center of all these developments because all AMB condos enjoy amazing mountain and water views, whereas the southern towers all jampacked facing each other. Some lucky ones may have peek a poo view of Metrotown. Having said that AMB does lose some of its appeal because they lost the all important community center. AMB also lost a grocery store which anchored all the southern developments, giving it more a community home town feel. Some of the AMB retails simply too high end for this neighborhood...I still cant figure why Suit Supply is still there. Now a days nobody dress up for work anymore, work at home becomes the trend.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by VarBreStr18

Now a days nobody dress up for work anymore, work at home becomes the trend.

"Nobody" is a bit of a stretch. Many of the industries that would have typically worn a suit to work were some of the fastest to return to the office: finance, legal, etc.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by VarBreStr18

Nah, the Amazing Brentwood (AMB) will still be the center of all these developments because all AMB condos enjoy amazing mountain and water views, whereas the southern towers all jampacked facing each other. Some lucky ones may have peek a poo view of Metrotown. Having said that AMB does lose some of its appeal because they lost the all important community center. AMB also lost a grocery store which anchored all the southern developments, giving it more a community home town feel. Some of the AMB retails simply too high end for this neighborhood...I still cant figure why Suit Supply is still there. Now a days nobody dress up for work anymore, work at home becomes the trend.

When I said 'dwarfed', I meant that literally, and not figuratively.

Amazing Brentwood is not going to be even close to the tallest towers in that town center by the time the likes of Grosvenor, Brentwood West and the other proposed developments with 60+ floor towers get built out.

Which means that when you look towards Brentwood from elsewhere in the GVA like Fowntown Vancouver or from Metrotown,, it's not the Amazing Brentwood towers that will be standing out but rather these other towers.

As to whether it will remain the center of attention or focus for the area, that remains to be seen - especially since we don't know what amenities, retail options and other conveniences that these other developments might bring along that could give them a bigger pull factor.

Right now?
Of course it is, because it's for the most part built out and also at the heart of the main transit hub.

[yvrTAB2]

Originally Posted by Vin

They can work, get loans or receive assistance from parents.

Without these micro-suites, they will need roomies to pack into musty shacks in tired-looking hoods, while still footing the same amount of rent, and that's the difference.

In Yaletown, the Wall rental building is fully occupied with loads of youths. Obviously, many of these tenants are not able to afford the condos in the neighbourhood, but somehow they manage to stay downtown because of this rental tower. So what say you?

That's because they're packed into these micro suites already with roomies 😂. You see listings online just for sharing a 1 bedroom suite. Either that, or they're late 20s with good paying jobs.

get loans or receive assistance from parents

Ah yes, that would maybe be the minority of "youngsters" these days. This isn't the 00s. The target demographic is definitely not "youngsters" going to school/getting their first job (aka early 20s). Let's not pretend that they have it just as easy as the older generation did.

[simons]

Originally Posted by yvrTAB2

That's because they're packed into these micro suites already with roomies 😂. You see listings online just for sharing a 1 bedroom suite. Either that, or they're late 20s with good paying jobs.
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Yeah that’s how one friend of mine was living in Coal Harbour in his mid-twenties—a one bedroom apartment with a divider in the living room for his bedroom while his roommate took the bedroom.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by yvrTAB2

That's because they're packed into these micro suites already with roomies ������. You see listings online just for sharing a 1 bedroom suite. Either that, or they're late 20s with good paying jobs.


Ah yes, that would maybe be the minority of "youngsters" these days. This isn't the 00s. The target demographic is definitely not "youngsters" going to school/getting their first job (aka early 20s). Let's not pretend that they have it just as easy as the older generation did.

Professionally-managed micro-suite rental buildings do not allow that. You can try but you face evictions. Better have these than having to rent million-dollar condos and penthouses, right?

Originally Posted by simons

Yeah that’s how one friend of mine was living in Coal Harbour in his mid-twenties—a one bedroom apartment with a divider in the living room for his bedroom while his roommate took the bedroom.

Unfortunately that's the way it is in this day and age. Microsuites can provide some relief, but more should be done to lower the overall rental pool of housing, especially close to employment centres and schools.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by VarBreStr18

Nah, the Amazing Brentwood (AMB) will still be the center of all these developments because all AMB condos enjoy amazing mountain and water views, whereas the southern towers all jampacked facing each other. Some lucky ones may have peek a poo view of Metrotown. Having said that AMB does lose some of its appeal because they lost the all important community center. AMB also lost a grocery store which anchored all the southern developments, giving it more a community home town feel. Some of the AMB retails simply too high end for this neighborhood...I still cant figure why Suit Supply is still there. Nowadays nobody dress up for work anymore, work at home becomes the trend.

Obviously you haven't been downtown in a while? Suits, jackets and trench/pea-coats are making a huge come-back here.

I would love to see this culture take root in Burnaby city centres too. We need way more business investments and commercial/office buildings there.

[yvrTAB2]

Originally Posted by Vin

Professionally-managed micro-suite rental buildings do not allow that. You can try but you face evictions. Better have these than having to rent million-dollar condos and penthouses, right?

Professionally managed micro-suites aren't doing a good job of that.

Unfortunately that's the way it is in this day and age. Microsuites can provide some relief, but more should be done to lower the overall rental pool of housing, especially close to employment centres and schools.

Exactly, microsuites are a step. But back to your statement saying that these youngsters would need these tiny units, the majority of young people in school or working their first job who wants to live by themselves won't be able to afford to rent one comfortably.

[Redtruck]

The Brentwood West plan is terrible. Looking from South to North it will be like looking at a GIANT wall but who needs to look at mountains anyways. Make the towers skinnier and spread them out.

[Migrant_Coconut]

No matter what anybody thinks of the towers, the only way to see the mountains from Lougheed is by standing on the SkyTrain platform.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Redtruck

The Brentwood West plan is terrible. Looking from South to North it will be like looking at a GIANT wall but who needs to look at mountains anyways. Make the towers skinnier and spread them out.

I'm sorry, I sympathise because sometimes I depend on the local mountains to know which way is north, but you don't need to see the mountains from every point in the Lower Mainland.

The gas station and mini-strip mall make this section of Lougheed miserable as a pedestrian, the plan looks fine to me just please get something done.