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Old Posted May 18, 2022, 3:59 PM
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We know why it started, but can you answer my question, what is the end game? When can it be removed?

As noted above I am welcome to a permanent memorial, but what is there now can’t stay forever.
Feel free to ask the people there.
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We know why it started, but can you answer my question, what is the end game? When can it be removed?

As noted above I am welcome to a permanent memorial, but what is there now can’t stay forever.
The end game is the same as any other situation in Vancouver - the site gets redeveloped into a 65+ story condo tower.
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I cannot believe the occupation of the VAG stairs continues and is even expanding to the public square! What waste of what could be a nice public space, but everybody's afraid to do anything about it. It looks like a homeless camp in making with all the random tents.
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[QUOTE=Metro-One;9628048]We know why it started, but can you answer my question, what is the end game? When can it be removed?

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[QUOTE=Metro-One;9628048]We know why it started, but can you answer my question, what is the end game? When can it be removed?

Because ignorance is a dangerous thing and knowledge is bliss.
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I cannot believe the occupation of the VAG stairs continues and is even expanding to the public square! What waste of what could be a nice public space, but everybody's afraid to do anything about it. It looks like a homeless camp in making with all the random tents.
Occupation is exactly right. I would even expand it further to call it an invasion of public space.

As usual, local authorities are inept and unable to dislodge this illegal occupation.

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I believe this started with the discovery of unmarked gravesites from residential schools.

That side of the VAG is not an entrance. It has been protest/demonstration central for decades.

Why are people getting triggered over this? It's not blocking anybody from anything.
I suggest VAG start to re-open another beautiful entrance.
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The end game is the same as any other situation in Vancouver - the site gets redeveloped into a 65+ story condo tower.
I suppose by your logic we will be getting a 65+ storey condo tower at the Sunset Beach waterfront since authorities are also unable to remove something else there: the beloved barge.
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Nothing is going to happen until they can convince a native leader to call an end to it.
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The end game is the same as any other situation in Vancouver - the site gets redeveloped into a 65+ story condo tower.
Nah, it would be cut down to an awkward 32 floors and would be a boring cube that retains one facade from the Courthouse.
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Nothing is going to happen until they can convince a native leader to call an end to it.
So we may as well write off this public plaza forever, because again there is no obtainable end game in mind (like many contemporary movements).

A nice compromise would be to instal permanent sculptures of shoes on one third of the steps with some plaques and maybe a flag pole for any flags they wish to fly, and reopen the rest of the plaza for public use.

If not we just need to wait for that earthquake to turn the entire area in rubble, after which we will get the aforementioned squat overpriced condo tower.
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A nice compromise would be to instal permanent sculptures of shoes on one third of the steps with some plaques
They are probably trying to decide on something permanent prior to making any public announcement.
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They are probably trying to decide on something permanent prior to making any public announcement.
I hope that’s the case.
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Nah, it would be cut down to an awkward 32 floors and would be a boring cube that retains one facade from the Courthouse.
You are correct. I forgot this was Vancouvrer and not Burnaby
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I suppose by your logic we will be getting a 65+ storey condo tower at the Sunset Beach waterfront since authorities are also unable to remove something else there: the beloved barge.
Absolutely. I can see it already - the last chance to own at the former side of the "beloved barge". The first 50 buyers get a key chain made of barge itself for only $5000 extra.
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I believe this started with the discovery of unmarked gravesites from residential schools.

That side of the VAG is not an entrance. It has been protest/demonstration central for decades.

Why are people getting triggered over this? It's not blocking anybody from anything.
It is though. It was nice last summer when it was a memorial but now it's fenced off now? Having a big part of the square fenced off with tents doesn't make the area any nicer.

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Stay mad and miserable.
What a productive comment. Thank you for adding to the discussion

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What a productive comment. Thank you for adding to the discussion
Unlike some people here I have quite the distaste for those who think this is an issue deserving of their scorn.

It’s a repulsive, inconsiderate response and I would be rather ashamed of myself if I were in their shoes.

But we all know they will never entertain such introspection.

Should this be converted into a permanent, more long-lasting, less haphazard monument? Yes. But what we currently find in its place isn’t something I’m going to complain about because the message is far more important than soulless whinging about propriety.
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It is though. It was nice last summer when it was a memorial but now it's fenced off now? Having a big part of the square fenced off with tents doesn't make the area any nicer.
Big part of the square? Not really.

What would you do? Have the VPD clear them out?
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Big part of the square? Not really.

What would you do? Have the VPD clear them out?
“How dare these troublesome indigenous people infringe on OUR public space? How dare they protest their own genocide and the obliteration of their culture in a way that is not aesthetically pleasing to ME?”
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“How dare these troublesome indigenous people infringe on OUR public space? How dare they protest their own genocide and the obliteration of their culture in a way that is not aesthetically pleasing to ME?”
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