LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0 - Page 600

Illithid Dude · #**11981** Posted **May 5, 2022, 12:36 AM**

Sorry I've been doing / recovering from Met Gala stuff in NY and haven't been keeping up with this thread. I dislike Beaudry because of how the initial design was value engineered with much of the initially proposed detailing removed. I liked the bronze accents, the double height amenity floors, and the more detailed entrances, and wish they were still part of the design. I think the current spandrel cladding is cheap and gaudy, and mourn the loss of what would have been a much classier curtain wall. The building simply feels cheap, which considering the pedigree of the architectural firms involved, where the building is expected to be positioned in the marketplace, and it's prominence in the overall skyline, is very disappointed. This is not the worst building downtown, and I wouldn't call it bad, or even ugly, but it fails to reach the expectations set by the initial renders, and feels to me like a 700 foot missed opportunity.

scania · #**11982** Posted **May 5, 2022, 1:27 AM**

So many lies on here. It’s laughable. People claiming this and that…such extreme petty critiques. Let me simply say that people who socialize and do things on certain levels, don’t have as much gripe about petty/simple things. That’s all I will say.

Illithid Dude · #**11983** Posted **May 5, 2022, 1:54 AM**

If you are referring to myself, which I will chose to believe you are not and that my response here is unneeded, I was specifically asked by a few posters to list what I felt was underwhelming with the Beaudry. Most of what I listed is my opinion, and should be treated as such. That which is not my opinion can be corroborated by the renderings and documents submitted to the city that were posted on here earlier. And as far as my socialization is concerned (which, if this comment was hypothetically directed towards me, would constitute as a personal attack) I would probably be better off reigning in my social life, and not galavanting around Soho until 8am, forcing me to spend the entirety of the next day in bed. But alas! That is a conversation for another time.

citywatch · #**11984** Posted **May 5, 2022, 2:03 AM**

Watching this made me realize that large lighted ad signage goes back over 70 yrs & has been a standard operating feature in cities like NYC or Tokyo for a very long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emY6c3UxYzg

Led boards have taken signage to a new, higher level....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqDBWIu3k7E

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Located in the heart of Downtown Los Angeles, directly across the street from the LA Convention Center and Staples Center, the 37-story, mixed-use tower will consist of a dual-branded, 380-room Moxy hotel and a 347-room AC hotel.

The property will also include over 22,000 square feet of premium digital and static signage, featuring the largest continuous full-motion digital display on the West Coast, and over 8,000 square feet of ground floor retail space.

^ If the oceanwide proj can be completed, & its wraparound board isn't value engineered out of the plans, that stretch of Fig will go from being dark & gloomy in the past to a setting more suitable for ppl staying at hotels or going to conventions. When the LA convention ctr was first built in the early 1970s, that section of dtla was totally not ready for prime time. Now it's getting closer to punching at its weight class.

EDIT: this is a LED board in Seoul, south Korea. Beyond just the message board itself, the newer devlpt in the blocks around it is another example of how cities throughout the world are upping their game....

https://youtu.be/46-_w_SbIDc

What's occurring in dtla is not coming a second too soon.

BrandonJXN · #**11985** Posted **May 5, 2022, 2:57 AM**

^ Of all the towers proposed in DTLA, why have you been so damp over 4th and Hill for the last few lifetimes? What is it specifically about that particular building that urges you to talk about it 2 out of every 5 of your posts?

Lol these last few pages are hilarious.

badrunner · #**11986** Posted **May 5, 2022, 3:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Morty McDuncy

Everyone should be entitled to their opinions that's what discussions are all about. Wasn't long ago that much of DTLA was parking lots. We lost many buildings that we can never get back such as the Richfield Tower.

But at the same time we should be grateful for any construction that happens in DTLA regardless if you find it aesthetic or not because what makes a city vibrant isnt the height of the building or the color or the material used. However, what is important is do people want to live there?

Each project that breaks ground inches DTLA a little closer to were it should have been years ago.

good one

Morty McDuncy · #**11987** Posted **May 5, 2022, 3:47 AM**

We all have our gripes about what DTLA should have been or could have been as i have mine as well. but we get what we get for now.

I'm new here so im not sure how to post video links but if you youtube videos of people walking in london for example, you will see they dont have that many tall buildings but what they do have is vibrancy in the streets.

IMO today DTLA is in better shape with all the new construction etc than it was 50 years ago. There were some gem of buildings that were destroyed along the way but at the same time the future for DTLA looks bright!

citywatch · #**11988** Posted **May 5, 2022, 3:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by BrandonJXN

What is it specifically about that particular building that urges you to talk about it 2 out of every 5 of your posts?

Part of it is because it's above a metro rail station, is south of Grand Central Mkt and across from angel''s flight. Those are highly trafficed areas in dt, visible to a lot of visitors, tourists, daytimers.

Also, I've long disliked the Taco house #1 food stand....don't recall if that was what the business called itself yrs ago. It has long given that section of dt a sad or struggling vibe. I wish the owner had at least torn it down, which they received demo permits for over a yr ago. But they haven't done even that. Instead that area has graffiti all over it.

If the Angel's Landing proj across the street breaks ground very shortly, that will help things. But I suspect that will occur later rather than sooner.
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https://la.urbanize.city/post/heres-new-look-31-story-4th-hill-tower

la.urbanize

citywatch · #**11989** Posted **May 5, 2022, 4:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Morty McDuncy

IMO today DTLA is in better shape with all the new construction etc than it was 50 years ago.

Correct. And just for the record, no, you don't happen to be a sock puppet of my ssp account. Not sure if another ssper suspects I've done exactly that. But if they do, why would I? I've been posting here for yrs under the exact same SSP handle. Maybe if I had been banned and wanted to sneak back in, I'd try to pull an edluva routine.

Mojeda101 · #**11990** Posted **May 5, 2022, 4:05 AM**

Everyone should take a breather and relax. Things are looking up. We're getting the 60 story Olympic+Hill tower with a few others soon to join it. Another mini-boom before the olympics is imminent!

Let's not complain about Brookfield because we would've killed for that tower 10 years ago. Like sure, maybe some materials have changed and maybe there was slight tweaks here & there but it's here and she's a fine addition to the skyline.

badrunner · #**11991** Posted **May 5, 2022, 4:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mojeda101

Everyone should take a breather and relax.

I CAN'T. That taco house #1 is STILL STANDING

craigs · #**11992** Posted **May 5, 2022, 5:37 AM**

For what it's worth, today's downtown LA is far superior to what it was when I moved away in 2001. Moving back this past June, I was really pleased to see all the growth and change downtown. It's bigger, cleaner, more interesting and more vibrant. I can really see the impact of the addition of thousands of new/renovated residential units. And as a skyscraper and skyline lover, I think the densification and transformation of the skyline is awesome.

bhunsberger · #**11993** Posted **May 5, 2022, 5:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by citywatch

Correct. And just for the record, no, you don't happen to be a sock puppet of my ssp account. Not sure if another ssper suspects I've done exactly that. But if they do, why would I? I've been posting here for yrs under the exact same SSP handle. Maybe if I had been banned and wanted to sneak back in, I'd try to pull an edluva routine.

He just happens to speak exactly like you and say all the exact same things. Interesting coincidence

citywatch · #**11994** Posted **May 5, 2022, 4:00 PM**

^ So what? If other ppl have a similar viewpoint to mines, great. Personally, I think I'm saying 2+2=4, so it's not like that's a unique concept.

BTW, I notice that person mentioned how sad it was that old properties or bldgs in dtla have been lost through the yrs. I can't think of too many that I wish hadn't been torn down.

Preservationists often cite bunker hill, but most of that was old wood or masonry bldgs that gave LA a sad, poor look. Only a few of them were classic Victorian mansions. Such areas originally actually hurt dtla's image, not helped it. Old sections of South pk have also long been mainly bleak & unimpressive. Then there's skid row.

I used to work in the warehouse area way to the SE of dt, not far from the Coca cola bldg made to look like a ship. That area has always put grit into the word gritty, & sketch into the word sketchy.

DTLA needs a lot more of this than it necessarily needs super talls...

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edale · #**11995** Posted **May 5, 2022, 4:59 PM**

citywatch is a menace to this thread. Post after post of incoherent ramblings, links to youtube videos, complaints about the same shit over and over and over....

This thread should be about project updates. Take the rants elsewhere.

112597jorge · #**11996** Posted **May 5, 2022, 6:36 PM**

Not sure this is the best place to ask this but what's the general consensus for choice for the next mayor of LA on this forum?

I'd personally like to see Caruso win. See if indeed he can make a dent in the homeless problem and encourage more development and density.

citywatch · #**11997** Posted **May 5, 2022, 6:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by edale

Take the rants elsewhere.

And what have you added through the yrs? You don't happen to be one of those sppers who complains over & over again about new projs not being taller, not having more floors or having too much parking?

As for the bldg that was close to where I once worked, this is it....talk about perfect timing.....this was posted just last month. This is one of the few old, smaller bldgs in dtla that I'd want to preserve.

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ChelseaFC · #**11998** Posted **May 5, 2022, 6:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by 112597jorge

Not sure this is the best place to ask this but what's the general consensus for choice for the next mayor of LA on this forum?

I'd personally like to see Caruso win. See if indeed he can make a dent in the homeless problem and encourage more development and density.

Caruso certainly knows the development angle of things. But yes, we should probably avoid political discussions beyond what strictly relates to development.

bhunsberger · #**11999** Posted **May 5, 2022, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by edale

citywatch is a menace to this thread. Post after post of incoherent ramblings, links to youtube videos, complaints about the same shit over and over and over....

This thread should be about project updates. Take the rants elsewhere.

Honestly though. I don’t want to ever get personal, make someone feel bad or like they can’t say what they want, but the constant repeating of the same things over and over, the long paragraphs, the YouTube video obsession, mentioning of other cities- I’m here for DTLA, I couldn’t care less what’s happening in South America or any other city. He should start his own forum about all of his abstract views and feelings instead of flooding this one with it. It’s highly frustrating and annoying.

badrunner · #**12000** Posted **May 5, 2022, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by citywatch

And what have you added through the yrs? You don't happen to be one of those sppers who complains over & over again about new projs not being taller, not having more floors or having too much parking?

As for the bldg that was close to where I once worked, this is it....talk about perfect timing.....this was posted just last month. This is one of the few old, smaller bldgs in dtla that I'd want to preserve.

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no one cares lol