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[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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mystery slides.

"1959 Orig Los Angeles Street Scene Cars Movie Theater 2 Kodachrome Photo Slides"


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hmmmm. . . [scratches head]



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All I can see, in terms of clues, "Chi Chi" and "Sizzling Steaks".
Good luck, minions.
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In the top photo, The 7th Voyage of Sinbad is playing at the movie theater. It was released on Dec. 23rd, 1958. (There's some Christmas decorations in the photo at the top left and right hand corners.) At first I was looking at the marquee on the right of center, which must be for the Chi Chi club.

Above, in the bottom photo, the store sign on the right, partially obscured by a palm tree and Growdough watermark, is most likely Sy Devore. He had a store near Hollywood & Vine and was a famous Hollywood tailor, often known as "The Man Who Dressed the Rat Pack."

Palm Springs location opened in 1958.



From this posting about Sy Devore: HERE.
(Is it me, or is that a realllly large fire hydrant?)

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Palm Springs location opened in 1958.



From this posting about Sy Devore: HERE.
(Is it me, or is that a realllly large fire hydrant?)

Fire hydrants always look bigger in the hot desert sun.




Bob and Sy

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fb3rwdL3F2s/X...e--tailor-to-the-stars%2B%25288%2529.jpg




Sy and some crooner
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9zAwILh3tG8/X...HQ/s1600/Sy-Devore-and-Frank-Sinatra.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U5dwLK97bCk/X...--tailor-to-the-stars%2B%252812%2529.jpg




Not to diminish Mr. Devore's standing, there were many perhaps lesser-known tailors and haberdashers serving the luminous luminaries:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

The London Shop spurred recollections of several other clothiers/haberdasheries, some of which received fleeting NLA mention and most of which were in Beverly Hills. Monte Factor (270 N Beverly Drive), Jerry Rothschild (710 and later 270 N. Beverly Drive), Mr. Guy (Rodeo) and Carroll & Co. (Rodeo). Brussell's University Store for Men (114 S. Beverly Drive Adjacent to Hamburger Hamlet at 122 So. Beverly Dr.).

Most of these stores moved around, e.g., the '56CD lists Mr. Guy at the Town & Country Stores across from the Farmers' Mkt at Third and Fairfax.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7610994

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Palmero

Chi Chi Palm Springs at 217 N. Palm Canyon Drive. The mountains in the background is a giveaway.

Thanks Palmero! Excellent sleuthing.
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[riichkay]

A few random snapshots....



getty museum


"Woman on the corner of Winston St., 1940's".....although presumably excluding '42 through '45....


....and a companion photo....










6th and Hill, 1948






No info at all on this one....judging by the attire I would guess about 1940....any location ideas?






"Margaret Lawson, 1943"......I ran "Pico Garage" in the '43 directory, nothing turned up.


Ms. Lawson's license plate is sporting a "V for Victory" tag, these were issued for 1943 only....

[ethereal_reality]

Good eye, riichkay....I've never notice the V for Victory thingy.

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[HossC]

Originally Posted by riichkay

No info at all on this one....judging by the attire I would guess about 1940....any location ideas?

This is obviously a different sign, but the typeface and frame are virtually the same. The title is "Festival in Chinatown", and the description says "A large group of young women dressed in traditional Chinese costumes pose for a group photo underneath a sign 'This is Old Los Angeles.' Tents and Chinese lanterns in the background give this occasion a festive air." It's dated circa 1940. I haven't identified the building behind the sign, but its proximity to City Hall suggests we're probably near the Plaza.


LAPL

The awning on the left side of riichkay's photo appears to say "JEWELRY" or "JEWELER(S)". Could the trees behind it be in the Plaza?

[ethereal_reality]

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Here's a bit of a mystery.



eBay (no longer listed) unless I just can't find it again.


Hmm. . a museum. . .in a house. .in Los Angeles?





Let's take a closer look.



Any ideas?


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[Mackerm]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

eBay (no longer listed) unless I just can't find it again.

Tip: you can use the "completed items" option to find the original listing.

Originally Posted by riichkay

A few random snapshots....



getty museum


"Woman on the corner of Winston St., 1940's".....although presumably excluding '42 through '45....

I'm pretty confident this is the intersection of Los Angeles St. and Winston, looking northeast. The grating in the gutter is a match, as is the curve of the street.

Originally Posted by riichkay

No info at all on this one....judging by the attire I would guess about 1940....any location ideas?

Maybe something ER discussed back in 2017: Old Los Angeles - World Center.

Pretty merciless with the Pico House and the Lugo adobe. I guess that's a faked photo of the bell tower across from Union Station. Some people prefer mock historic buildings to real ones.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Refresh my memory, folks..........
Have we seen the Tick Tock Auto Court?


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The sign still exists (Credit to Esotouric and @eastsideponcho on instagram. You can see it in the Googlemobile at the intersection of Goodrich Blvd. and Amalia Ave.

[bighen]

Originally Posted by HossC

This is obviously a different sign, but the typeface and frame are virtually the same. The title is "Festival in Chinatown", and the description says "A large group of young women dressed in traditional Chinese costumes pose for a group photo underneath a sign 'This is Old Los Angeles.' Tents and Chinese lanterns in the background give this occasion a festive air." It's dated circa 1940. I haven't identified the building behind the sign, but its proximity to City Hall suggests we're probably near the Plaza.


LAPL

The awning on the left side of riichkay's photo appears to say "JEWELRY" or "JEWELER(S)". Could the trees behind it be in the Plaza?

I think this sign was located on the east side of Los Angeles Street and just south of Ferguson Alley. The jewelry store is "Jin Hing Co" located on 446 1/2 Los Angeles Street with the side facing the infamous "Calle los Negroes."

The picture with the Chinese girls dressed was probably taken when Madame Chang Kai Sheik came to Los Angeles in 1943 and across the street from the Garnier Building in the Plaza.

I think the sign was taken down in the late 1940's in order to make way for the Hollywood Freeway and the on-ramp from Alameda.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Mackerm

Tip: you can use the "completed items" option to find the original listing.

Thanks for the tip, Mackerm.



re: The Tick Tock Auto Court.

Originally Posted by Mackerm

The sign still exists (Credit to Esotouric and @eastsideponcho on instagram. You can see it in the Googlemobile at the intersection of Goodrich Blvd. and Amalia Ave.

I remember seeing this years and years ago but couldn't remember where I'd seen it. ...Special kudos to esotouric.




And other aspects of the auto court still exists.



GSV






GSV


It should be landmarked.

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[Noir_Noir]

Originally Posted by riichkay

No info at all on this one....judging by the attire I would guess about 1940....any location ideas?

Originally Posted by bighen

I think this sign was located on the east side of Los Angeles Street and just south of Ferguson Alley. The jewelry store is "Jin Hing Co" located on 446 1/2 Los Angeles Street with the side facing the infamous "Calle los Negroes."

The Jin Hing Co. store with familiar sidewall sign in this detail from Street scene of Old Chinatown, Los Angeles (April 7, 1948)



digital.library.ucla.edu

[ethereal_reality]

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Remember recently discussed Belvedere Gardens from a few weeks ago?








Let's take a closer look.


uscdigitalarchives

I could be wrong but I don't think that's Arbuckle.








uscdigitalarchives

I'm surprised little Belvedere Gardens had so many buses.







I. .um. .have to confess. I added the Arbuckle part in the top image.

[ethereal_reality]

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Has anyone heard of the Ford and Stout Paving Plant?



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Los Angeles - Ford & Stout Paving Plant - July 24, 1915.



Just listed on eBay.



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[Bristolian]

That's my birthday! Actually about 50 years before I was born.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Has anyone heard of the Ford and Stout Paving Plant?



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In the 1915 CD, Ford & Stout (Benjamin F Ford and Fred H Stout) Asphalt Paving Contractors had an office address of 336-337 Bradbury Building, 304 S Broadway. Unfortunately, there's no address for the plant. The company appears in the CDs between 1912 and 1917.

[odinthor]

Pacific Municipalities, vol. 27, p. 604, 1913

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks, HossC and odinthor!



July 24, 1915

Originally Posted by Bristolian

That's my birthday! Actually about 50 years before I was born.

Very cool.




Just for fun here's a closer look at the men in the Ford & Stout photograph.



I can't decide if the thingies above and to the left of the wagon driver are electrical wires with insulators or ropes with knots.






and here's the other driver.



I have no idea what the horses are pulling.....It looks like a little sled.




P.S. I just looked at the complete Ford & Stout photograph again and the "thingies" are electric wires with insulators. If you look closely they're attached to the utility pole.
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[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Has anyone heard of the Ford and Stout Paving Plant?



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The tree you see barely rising above and behind the the building is the Moreton Bay Fig at 20th and Compton Ave., planted by Andrew J. Cooper in 1876.


USC

Thus, of the two Ford & Stout Paving yards, the photo is of the yard at the nearby intersection of Washington and Long Beach.

[ethereal_reality]

EXCELLENT DISCOVERY! ...Good eye, odinthor.




They do appear to match.






. .considering that there's at least 20 years between the two photographs.



I'm amazed that you noticed this, odinthor....
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[ethereal_reality]

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....................................................................I forgot my map.


Guesstimate

Ford & Stout location - - - - > Moreton Fig tree.



The shadows in the Ford & Stout photograph tell us that we're looking north. . . in the afternoon.


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