LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0

[caligrad]

Originally Posted by dktshb

Am I missing something? Was it said that 12th and Fig and Oceanwide (if ever completed) are not going to have their LED screens?

Oh no, it was just me questioning/hoping that Oceanwide doesn't cut out the fig/12th corner of the project specifically. The LEDs facing fig I'm not worried about, its just that wrap around corner since it hasn't been constructed yet and requires them to build a separate 3-4 story building from the looks of the flythrough video. Just from a cost cutting standpoint. Seems every year this project is delayed, 300 million is added to the price tag. When they first stopped, they owed money and only needed 300 million to finish....Now they are talking over 1.2 billion to finish Thats a whole new project, cost wise.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/lo...31&cvid=3608a5d6901f4554ae77998f6ad24cdf

Speaking of new projects, it looks like Angels Landing is still 2 years away. first paragraph.

[BrandonJXN]

If there is one project that essentially needs to be finished, it's Oceanwide Plaza. For a whole lot of reasons. This project has broken our hearts for almost 15 years. Remember when it was called LA Central? Broke ground, parking lot(s) blocked off...then the recession it. And the Lakers won back to back championships. Oh and Obama was president. Fast forward a couple of years, Obama is still president and LA Central is now a slowly deepening hole in the ground but at least it's under construction. 2 presidents and a pandemic later, this thing is ever so close.

[craigs]

Originally Posted by BrandonJXN

If there is one project that essentially needs to be finished, it's Oceanwide Plaza. For a whole lot of reasons. This project has broken our hearts for almost 15 years. Remember when it was called LA Central? Broke ground, parking lot(s) blocked off...then the recession it. And the Lakers won back to back championships. Oh and Obama was president. Fast forward a couple of years, Obama is still president and LA Central is now a slowly deepening hole in the ground but at least it's under construction. 2 presidents and a pandemic later, this thing is ever so close.

I agree Oceanwide Plaza needs to be completed. While there has been a history of delays, it's hard to imagine that it won't eventually open. Hopefully Oceanwide's asset selling will bring in enough funding to allow them to finish everything up or at least sell it to another developer who will.

[LAisthePlace]

Two big cranes up at the Arts District's first skyscraper which will stand 35 stories & 390 feet tall once complete. Incredibly exciting to see this move forward given its history and the type of impact this can have on future growth of skyscrapers in this part of Downtown.



https://urbanize.city/la/post/life-signs-stalled-arts-district-tower

[citywatch]

^ Never would think that part of dt would see new devlpt well before areas around the Fig hotel, LA Live and Residence inn did....I'm glad that the arts district is being filled in, but improvements there make me even more anxious to see this filled in too asap...


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[Quixote]

Originally Posted by LAisthePlace

Two big cranes up at the Arts District's first skyscraper which will stand 35 stories & 390 feet tall once complete. Incredibly exciting to see this move forward given its history and the type of impact this can have on future growth of skyscrapers in this part of Downtown.

Cranes are a welcome sight… this is actually proceeding.

And totally agree you about the impact of this development. It will really legitimize the AD and set a precedent for future development in the area. Proposals for the area are already quite solid, but this may force them to up the ante.

And this is going off on a bit of a tangent, but I really am starting to get more and more bothered by the existence of power lines. I’ve always disliked them, but I resent the fact that they aren’t being buried alongside new development. It’s not just about polish; the absence of power lines creates a more attractive streetscape for walking and allows for shady trees to be planted.

[citywatch]

^ I notice that after the marriott residence Inn across from LA Live was completed several yrs ago, the city couldn't at least clean up the street in front of it by removing the poles & wires. The view that hotel guests have of both the parking lot & power poles is not a sight that gives dtla a better image.

this is a part of brentwood, so even the wealthier parts of LA aren't all that much better off either...

https://www.crestwoodhills.com/2017/10/30/burial-of-unsightly-power-lines-effort-2-0/


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there was talk about 8 yrs ago of upping the amt of pole removal. But DWP workers & their union opposed it. Underground lines apparently require less maintenance time, so employees didn't want the threat of their paycheck being reduced.

[caligrad]

Originally Posted by citywatch

^ Never would think that part of dt would see new devlpt well before areas around the Fig hotel, LA Live and Residence inn did....I'm glad that the arts district is being filled in, but improvements there make me even more anxious to see this filled in too asap...


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There's a tower planned for that specific corner if i remember correctly. The Axis GFA tower? it was cool with a slanted roof yet kinda boring and seemed believable.

The beauty about the Arts district is that it will make developers feed into the "Trendy" aspect of it to want to develop over there. The arts, even though this one is blah, might give us our most diverse architecture going forward if we're lucky.

[DTLA-Joe]

just walked by 1411 S. Flower, a little bit of dirt is being moved around recently, however not a serious hole yet;
https://urbanize.city/la/post/developer-scores-41m-loan-dtla-micro-unit-apartments

And 1317 S. Hope Street is sadly still in suspended state of construction;
https://urbanize.city/la/post/progress-report-38-unit-residential-retail-development-downtown

[caligrad]

I think the city should consider allowing developers to use micro units/singles/studios as their "affordable housing" component. Allows them to mask their podiums (which aren't going anywhere for the bigger lots) with a few dozen affordable micro units. I think it's a win win. Or is that considered classism since the affordable units would be next to the parking garage.

[nmkef]

1317 Hope has been mostly dead for months and months. Not sure what happened there, as maybe 4 or 5 months ago I suddenly saw a bunch of activity for a week with workers all over it, but then soon after nothing.

[craigs]

Thanks for all the updates, guys.

[colemonkee]

Quixote, you totally opened up a can of worms with that one. citywatch, no diatribes about above ground power lines, please. We don't need to resurrect 2005-2012...

[craigs]

Let's stay positive. We have so much going on in terms of skyscraper construction, pre-construction, approvals, and proposals than so many other areas.

[citywatch]

Originally Posted by colemonkee

no diatribes about above ground power lines, please.

That makes me think of all the downer comments about the design-height of the new concert hall for the Colburn school.....there are always complaints about new projs in dtla not being taller. in one way, the most superficial aspect of dt -- the number of its skyscrapers -- is at the top of the list, while the humanity of new devlpt gets lost in the commotion. I wonder also how many ppl overall notice bldgs in LA not being taller versus something that the DWP treats like no problemo?

Far More Than a Building


Christina Gandolfo

Gehry’s built design, when finished in 2026, will complete the school that Colburn, a master at organizing companies, set in motion, a remarkably rich and inclusive musical world with moving parts that work together as an organic whole.

The school itself is embedded in a remarkable cultural ecosystem. Students are given passes to the Broad to see its collection of contemporary work without standing in line, and those who stay in the dorms live next to MOCA Grand Avenue, a free-of-charge museum with an outstanding postwar collection. The Colburn has a fund for buying tickets to the L.A. Philharmonic at the Walt Disney Concert Hall and the L.A. Opera at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, with the Mark Taper Forum just down the street.

The school, then, is a musical ecosystem within a larger cultural ecosystem, a school campus within an urban campus, a keystone structure that completes a redevelopment plan slowly and arduously pieced together over the decades on Bunker Hill.

Gehry’s new concert hall is bigger than a building. It is the last piece in an arts corridor in which all sections—music, dance, theater—have the potential of playing together symphonically, in the Colburn spirit: hear the dance, see the music, breathe the architecture.

[craigs]

Brookfield poking up and on to the skyline:





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[craigs]

And one more skyline photo, taken by the Army Corps of Engineers with a solid telephoto lens. Brookfield is a surprisingly visible tower from several vantages including this one:



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[colemonkee]

That's a great angle of the skyline. Just enough north to eliminate some of the gaps caused when looking straight down our numbered streets. From that angle, Olympic & Hill should start to fill in that gap between the Ritz-Carlton and Oceanwide's tallest tower, adding a new peak to that side of the skyline, appearing as tall - if not a tad bit taller - than 777 Figueroa. 530 Matteo should also have a pretty profound impact, though I'm not clear exactly where it will pop up.

[edale]

Brookfield has a huge impact on the skyline view from that hideous part of Glendale Blvd in Echo Park. It really dominates from this perspective: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0854539,...QN22d9PwhKGo6SNbe40VQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[LAisthePlace]

Shots from today of the rising Mitsui Fudosan's 8th and Fig and Brookfield's 960 W. 7th Street.

Very impressed with the cladding + glass of the Mitsui Fudosan tower (my first time seeing it in person) with it being much nicer than what I was expecting from the render. Definitely a step above Hope & Flower and even Metropolis.

Mitsui already even has the shade structure up on top of the podium which I found surprising too.











The Mitsui Render for those not familar with: