Broadway Subway - Millennium Line Extension to Arbutus | U/C

[araman0]

I know this information is probably buried in here, but what is the planned opening date for this line?

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by araman0

i know this information is probably buried in here, but what is the planned opening date for this line?

2025

[Jimbo604]

Originally Posted by dpogue

Some photos from around Emily Carr that I've taken recently:


March 10th, 2022 - Great Northern Way station pit

Hurray, concrete poured! As madog222 suspected earlier when the stairs were put in: they have reached the required depth.

[officedweller]

From Broadway Subway twitter:

March 10th:


Here’s a closer look at the traffic deck on the north side of Broadway in Mount Pleasant – deck plates, girders, and precast girder support (concrete pads). The concrete pads will be removed once the north and south sides of the traffic deck are joined.
https://twitter.com/broadwaysubway_

March 11th:


In this aerial shot of the Broadway-City Hall station block, you can see excavation work in preparation for the installation of the north side of the traffic deck. The deck is being installed now… Updates to come!
https://twitter.com/broadwaysubway_

March 15th:


At the future GNW – Emily Carr station site, a sewer line is being protected while work continues in the construction trench below.
https://twitter.com/broadwaysubway_

March 17th:


The first part of the traffic deck between Alberta and Yukon streets near the Broadway-City Hall station block is complete! Crews are getting ready to install the girders and panels all the way to Cambie next.
https://twitter.com/broadwaysubway_

March 18th:


One of the ways we reduce noise for our neighbours is by using sound barriers – this particular type is called “noise blankets," which have been put up between @EmilyCarrU and the Great Northern Way-Emily Carr station construction site for the #BroadwaySubwayProject.
https://twitter.com/broadwaysubway_

[Zepfancouver]

Daily Hive today Vancouver City Council to deliberate potential UBC SkyTrain route


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ubc-skytrain-extension-route-update-translink

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

studies upon studies. i cant believe this has been studied literally since the millennium...

[Marshal]

Hopefully this time will formally pin down the critical details needed for a budget and proposal that will satisfy the requirements to get funding and approvals from the higher levels of government.

[ilikeredheads]

the study will conclude that more studies will be required.

[Hooknose]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

studies upon studies. i cant believe this has been studied literally since the millennium...

Sadly, you have missed the parts that have not been studied.

Positively acres of public announcements that virtue signal politicians have not been studied. There are yet thousands of press announcements about which politician favours this or that, aspects of the project that have not yet been firmly linked to some politicians repeated appearance in the press and photo opportunities in abundance not yet taken place.

Now add in all the fake debates about whether the line should be RR or whether some combination of donkeys, mules or carrier pigeons are a few dollars less (which signals yet again that some politician is just "there for you").

I figure this to be good for at least 8 more years until what gets done is what should have been done 20 years ago.

[NewfBC]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

studies upon studies. i cant believe this has been studied literally since the millennium...

This is how the CoV works. They spend all the money on studies, fancy retail store fronts to discuss the study, etc.. then there's nothing left to actually do the project.

Ron.

[jollyburger]

Well on the bright side the delays might have allowed the Jericho project to have Skytrain

[djh]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Well on the bright side the delays might have allowed the Jericho project to have Skytrain

When I was young and naive, I heard the news of a skytrain to UBC on the news, and thought my little kids, who were in daycare, would one day be able to jump on the skytrain from our apartment (which was a block from the skytrain station), go to UBC, and live at home, saving them a fortune in rent.

The oldest kid is nearly ready to go to uni now. Still no sign of an actual skytrain to UBC. And that apartment: long-since given up on that dream and sold it.


This is how long progress takes in the CoV.

[svlt]

Originally Posted by djh

When I was young and naive, I heard the news of a skytrain to UBC on the news, and thought my little kids, who were in daycare, would one day be able to jump on the skytrain from our apartment (which was a block from the skytrain station), go to UBC, and live at home, saving them a fortune in rent.

The oldest kid is nearly ready to go to uni now. Still no sign of an actual skytrain to UBC. And that apartment: long-since given up on that dream and sold it.


This is how long progress takes in the CoV.

I believe it was some 16 years ago that I had first heard of this being floated as an idea. I was about to graduate so knew it wouldn't affect me, but certainly the next generation would benefit from it. I think initially we had thought it would be in operation by 2020, which at the time seemed forever and a day away.

Getting infrastructure projects done in a manner where we can actually enjoy them in our lives has been one of the few black marks lost in a democratic society.

[chowhou]

Yeah, when I was a young first year at UBC I remember a poster session in the SUB (No, not the Nest, I mean the SUB) detailing the potential benefits of a Skytrain extension to UBC. No, I will not say how long ago that was

[s211]

Originally Posted by svlt

Getting infrastructure projects done in a manner where we can actually enjoy them in our lives has been one of the few black marks lost in a democratic society.

Hello Gregor? Hello Justin?

Adding your voice to the illustrious politicians that got all doe-eyed with the Chinese communists and how they fast and recklessly they could ram a project through without due process or oversight?

And no I'm not defending how long it takes to get anything done in the West. What I would say is that we can thank career bureaucrats, planners, advocates and consultants and the feeding trough that is the public purse, their personal playground. Why do something right when you can drag things out, still get paid, and win that big fat union pension?

[Jimbo604]

Originally Posted by Zepfancouver

Daily Hive today Vancouver City Council to deliberate potential UBC SkyTrain route


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ubc-skytrain-extension-route-update-translink

What's to debate? People want it but don't want to pay for it. And repeat endlessly.

[Dave2]

I remember the UBC subway being discussed when Philip Owen was mayor, so at least 20 years ago. I can recall Gordon Price saying that even if it was approved “today”, it wouldn’t be open until 2008 lol.

[jollyburger]

In 1993 they were still just talking about bus lanes on Broadway for the Transportation 2021 plan.

http://www.metrovancouver.org/about/libr...portation-Plan-for-Greater-Vancouver.pdf

And this in 1998

In May 1997 Vancouver City Council adopted the Vancouver Transportation Plan. Fitting within the framework of the regional transportation plan, Transport 2021, the Vancouver Transportation Plan stressed the importance of better transit in the city, and supported the construction of the 3 LRT lines proposed in the regional plan. In addition the Transportation Plan proposed that the proposed Broadway-Lougheed LRT should be extended westward to the UBC campus, the second largest employment destination in the region.

https://council.vancouver.ca/980428/rr1b.htm

And this:

Provincial Planning Timetable:

· December 1998: Confirm route and station locations from Boundary to a temporary terminus at Broadway and Commercial/Clark/or Glen Drive (VCC) (Phase I).
· December 1998: Identify environmental issues and recommendations for mitigation for Phases 1 and II.
· Mid 1999: Confirm route and station locations for Phase II along Broadway.
· December 1999: Complete Station Design Boundary to Broadway (Phase I).
· 2001 Complete construction Boundary to Broadway (Phase I).
· 2003 Complete construction along Broadway to western terminus (Phase II).
· No announcements have been made on the Phase III schedule to UBC.

https://council.vancouver.ca/981103/tt2.htm

[Feathered Friend]

TransLink considered three proposed station locations within the City to best serve ridership. Early work during this phase identified that two stations, MacDonald Street and Alma Street, were regionally performing. For the third regional station, between Alma and Blanca streets, station options included Jericho Lands or Sasamat Street. Millennium Line UBC Extension Alignment and Integration – RTS 13021 6 Initial analysis indicated that a Jericho Station performs better than a Sasamat Station across strategic objectives...

Since 2008, the lands west of Blanca Street within the University Endowment Lands that currently house the University Golf Club have been owned fee simple by xʷməθkʷəy̓ əm (Musqueam Indian Band). A covenant currently stipulates that the property must remain a golf course until at least 2083. Land use within the UEL is governed directly by the Province through the Ministry of Municipal Affairs. TransLink plans to explore if provision of future stations in this area should be delivered if and when redevelopment of these lands occurs. This could provide an opportunity for a station that could serve both the eastern portion of the University Golf Course and West Point Grey Village in the future.

Anticipated Next Steps
Beyond July 2022 – Subject to direction from decision makers, begin development of business case

https://council.vancouver.ca/20220323/documents/r1.pdf

[GenWhy?]

Timing with City Plan.