Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability - Page 34

spacebjorn · #**661** Posted **Feb 28, 2022, 8:52 PM**

This young security guard who happens to moonlights as a delivery driver in my building downtown just had his car broken into from his overnight shift and had all of valuables stolen... It really broke me because it's always people in the lower-end of the middle class that gets the shit end of the stick from this public disorder and decline.

Sick of this type of criminality being normalized and I don't know how being tone deaf or downplaying the problem helps anyone...

For sure we need more housing and mental health support, but at the pace of building these two pillars we will always be playing catch-up and just bandaging the issue while more of these troubled individuals migrate from across the nation and gets dumped in Vancouver to take advantage of the support services

We need a SERIOUS re-form and have a DRASTIC change to protect the honest, working people of the city and cut off the resources we've been pouring to this endless pit of black hole. No more half-measures or carrots.

whatnext · #**662** Posted **Feb 28, 2022, 9:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

At least he wasn't slashing people with a knife.

Well, the poor dear was apparently suffering from "psychosis", so it will likely be a slap on the wrist and out the revolving door.

It is time for us to realize some people will never be able to be properly "treated" and to have Riverview-type options to house them.

Vin · #**663** Posted **Mar 1, 2022, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Well, the poor dear was apparently suffering from "psychosis", so it will likely be a slap on the wrist and out the revolving door.

It is time for us to realize some people will never be able to be properly "treated" and to have Riverview-type options to house them.

To be in a state of "psychosis" is due to the choice of a person deciding to take hard drugs. One should be responsible for one's actions --------> Off to Jail I say, so that "poor dear" can finally sober up.

jollyburger · #**664** Posted **Mar 1, 2022, 7:37 PM**

Carjacking at Cambie/Broadway at 8:40AM

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Vancouver police say they have arrested someone for an alleged carjacking Sunday morning.

Police said around 8:40 a.m., a 58-year-old woman was forced out of her car near Cambie Street and West Broadway. She was delivering food and stopped for a red light, police said. That is when a man entered on the passenger side and tried to push her out of the vehicle.

Witnesses told police the woman was dragged for a short distance before the man took off in the car.

A bystander called 911 and was able to provide a description to Vancouver police officers, who arrived on the scene quickly, police said.

READ MORE: Vancouver man facing multiple assault charges after allegedly attacking five women

Some officers were able to attend to the victim while others searched for the suspect.

Just before 10 a.m., a Vancouver officer found the suspect and the car in Strathcona, police confirmed.

The victim was injured but it is expected she will recover, police said.

Chad Ayukawa, 48, has been charged with robbery, assault, and driving offences, police added.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8651553/vancouver-carjacking-cambie-street/

spacebjorn · #**665** Posted **Mar 1, 2022, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Carjacking at Cambie/Broadway at 8:40AM

https://globalnews.ca/news/8651553/vancouver-carjacking-cambie-street/

Classic case of a career criminal 'thriving' in our community at large, a quick pull of this man's crime records shows:

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41153-2-C	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	15-Dec-98	1	PSR	SEN	722:98033785

41172-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	15-Dec-98	1	FXD	SEN	722:98034302
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41437-1-T	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	15-Dec-98	1	DSP	SEN	401:98199255
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41437-2-S	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	3-Apr-00	1	JIR	SEN	722:4143702
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41508-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	15-Dec-98	1	APP	SEN	722:98040872
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48787-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	13-Dec-04	107	ARB	END	722:04-27849

49126-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	13-Dec-04	107	JIR	END	722:04-41861
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49553-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	19-May-05	107	IGP	END	722:05-9708
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50626-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	6-Jun-06	107	IGP	END	722:05-50235
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50847-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	6-Jun-06	107	IGP	END	722:06-14306
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51992-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	2-Aug-07	107	IGP	END	722:07-10908
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52279-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	30-Aug-07	107	IGP	END	722:07-19866
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53042-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	17-Dec-08	107	PSR	END	722:08-4773
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54855-1-D	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	New Westminster Law Courts	16-Feb-00	205	FT	END	409:99026960
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63166-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	28-Feb-20	107	DSP	END	722:18-29237
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63166-2	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	5-Mar-19	REG	APP	END	RICH:18-29297
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63166-4-S	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	28-Feb-20	107	APP	END	RICH:18-29237-01
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63166-5	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	2-Dec-19	REG	APW	END	RICH:19-34260
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63957-2	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	2-Dec-19	REG	APW	END	RICH:19-34260
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64026-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	28-Feb-20	107	DSP	END	722:19-36664
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64026-2	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	2-Dec-19	REG	APW	END	RICH:19-34260
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64026-3-B	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	1-Mar-21	106	DSP	END	488:20-12044
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65399-1-A	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	24-Mar-22	106	DSP	SBC	722:21-4942
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66156-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Richmond Provincial Court	24-Mar-22	106	DSP	SBC	722:21-16677
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197773-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Vancouver Provincial Court	26-Jan-09	307	IGP	END	401:07-243903
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247116-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Vancouver Provincial Court	12-Jul-18	102	IGP	END	704:17-42350
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264819-1	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Vancouver Provincial Court	2-Mar-22	101	JIR	IBJ	401:22-30282
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264819-2-C	AYUKAWA, CHAD James	Vancouver Provincial Court	2-Mar-22	101	APP	WH	401:22-30282
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If that's his 'charged' offenses just imagine how many more crimes someone like him have committed but weren't reported

How long will we let individuals like this continue to terrorize innocent people in surrounding municipalities until we say enough is enough?

And why is the media blurring this man's face? Are we seriously entertaining the possibility of him suing any media outlet for public defamation or something? His face needs to be exposed upfront and centered so we the public, can be aware and alert of them in the future. What a broken system at every level...

Changing City · #**666** Posted **Mar 2, 2022, 1:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by spacebjorn

And why is the media blurring this man's face? Are we seriously entertaining the possibility of him suing any media outlet for public defamation or something? His face needs to be exposed upfront and centered so we the public, can be aware and alert of them in the future. What a broken system at every level...

Because that's the victim, not the guy they arrested.

NewfBC · #**667** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 5:10 AM**

‘Worst I have ever seen it’: Vancouver business owner says city not taking crime seriously

Broken windows are also up by 40 per cent since 2019, while the city is witnessing an estimated four random assaults per day and an uptick in violent shoplifting incidents, according to Vancouver police.

The situation has left Clerides palpably frustrated, and he told Global News he believes Vancouver’s mayor, council and city staff don’t take the issue seriously.

To illustrate his point, he referenced a recent memo from Vancouver’s planning commission, which asked councillors not to “succumb to a narrow definition of public safety that prioritizes the wealthy and business interests over those most struggling.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/8657208/vancouver-business-owner-city-crime/

Ron.

officedweller · #**668** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 6:09 AM**

Vancouver crime: Store keeps stock locked up as forum held on public safety
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/vancouver-crime-st...as-forum-held-on-public-safety-1.5805234

rofina · #**669** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 4:55 PM**

For those of you that are more on the conservative side and tend to think its business as usual; what motivation do you think so many business owners recently have to come out and declare the state of things as "worst I have ever seen it."
And what do you think they are seeing to make them think so? Is all just bluster and exaggerations?

rofina · #**670** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 4:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Vancouver crime: Store keeps stock locked up as forum held on public safety
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/vancouver-crime-st...as-forum-held-on-public-safety-1.5805234

This sums everything anyone needs to know about the issues we face;

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VPD officers make an average of 3,000 arrests per year under the Mental Health Act, or about eight per day. Of these, about 60 to 70 per cent do not end up being certified at hospital.

Vancouver Mayor Kennedy Stewart was not part of the forum. CTV News reached out to his office for comment but did not hear back.

I have been saying this for literally years, the majority of issues are likely confined to probably as little as 50 people. They just cause an insanely disproportionate amount of crime and damage since their actions are completely repercussion free.

WarrenC12 · #**671** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 5:05 PM**

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I have been saying this for literally years, the majority of issues are likely confined to probably as little as 50 people. They just cause an insanely disproportionate amount of crime and damage since their actions are completely repercussion free.

Yeah this is a huge problem. The issue rests with the Federal government, does it not? Can the City or Province do anything when the courts release these people constantly?

giallo · #**672** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 5:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by rofina

For those of you that are more on the conservative side and tend to think its business as usual; what motivation do you think so many business owners recently have to come out and declare the state of things as "worst I have ever seen it."
And what do you think they are seeing to make them think so? Is all just bluster and exaggerations?

I think we're at the point where anyone with eyes and ears in their head knows that this isn't business as usual. Some may downplay it for compassionate reasons (not wanting backlash against the city's most vulnerable), but the amount of vandalism, open theft, and random violence is at a level that the city has never really experienced before. City council, the province and the federal government really need to figure this out. The feds could start with drafting a nationwide plan for mental healthcare facilities.

jollyburger · #**673** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 6:46 PM**

Meanwhile in Downtown Seattle

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Changing City · #**674** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 7:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Meanwhile in Downtown Seattle

And in Calgary.

Vin · #**675** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 7:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Meanwhile in Downtown Seattle

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Doesn't even look half as bad as Vancouver's DTES and Chinatown. The Seattle mayor is at least acknowledging that there is a huge problem and is coming up with a "plan".

What does our mayor say instead? "Vancouver is a safe city and I bike and walk everywhere."

All these social problems in North America stem from how lenient we treat drug distribution, use and abuse. A lot harsher measures need to be implemented by currently useless City Councils, police departments and judicial systems all over the continent, particularly so in many extreme left-leaning American Cities, as well as Vancouver. To start, streets need to be cleaned up, undesirables who break the law taken away by forcible removal or arrest, jail sentences have to be a lot longer, and the open drug-use culture has to be eradicated. These are the only ways.

whatnext · #**676** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 7:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by giallo

I think we're at the point where anyone with eyes and ears in their head knows that this isn't business as usual. Some may downplay it for compassionate reasons (not wanting backlash against the city's most vulnerable), but the amount of vandalism, open theft, and random violence is at a level that the city has never really experienced before. City council, the province and the federal government really need to figure this out. The feds could start with drafting a nationwide plan for mental healthcare facilities.

"Some may downplay" - you can start at City Hall where those appointed to the Vancouver City Planning Commission came up with this drivel in a report last year:

We are asking Council to not succumb to a narrow definition of public safety that prioritizes the wealthy and business interests over those most struggling. We ask Council to reject this motion, and prioritize the urgent life and safety needs of air quality, housing and actions that target pollution for those who require these services, which are public health and safety needs.

The safety of the public is an important responsibility and obligation of all levels of government and certainly falls within the purview of this council. But too often the vital and important step of defining the words public and safety is overlooked. The public is not a monolith and sometimes something that appears to increase the safety of some does so at the expense of decreasing the safety of others. So we first have to ask whose safety?

..The Vancouver City Planning Commission (VCPC) urges Mayor and Council to vote against this motion for the following reasons:1. The motion mentions hate crimes, property damage, sexual assaults, thefts and then proposes gathering members of the BIA, VPD and BC Housing. There seems to be a built in assumption that all these crimes have similar origins and are perpetrated by the same demographic but provides no evidence that this is the case. We are not at all clear why the BIA would be the appropriate group to consult about sexual assault or hate crimes. The very framing of this motion arguably indicates bias and further stigmatizes an already disproportionately policed and highly stigmatized population....

https://www.scribd.com/document/56251616...r-Motion-on-Public-Safety-October-7-2021

In short, the VCPC doesn't care about the safety of businesses or residents who pay taxes.

Acajack · #**677** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by rofina

For those of you that are more on the conservative side and tend to think its business as usual; what motivation do you think so many business owners recently have to come out and declare the state of things as "worst I have ever seen it."
And what do you think they are seeing to make them think so? Is all just bluster and exaggerations?

Sorry for sweeping in, but why would downtown businesses who at least partly (in some cases largely) depend on suburbanites and tourists visiting downtown, exaggerate and lie about how dangerous and unpleasant downtown Vancouver is?

What would be in it for them to play up this (alleged) fallacy?

WarrenC12 · #**678** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 8:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Sorry for sweeping in, but why would downtown businesses who at least partly (in some cases largely) depend on suburbanites and tourists visiting downtown, exaggerate and lie about how dangerous and unpleasant downtown Vancouver is?

What would be in it for them to play up this (alleged) fallacy?

Whipping up the electorate to vote for a more business friendly government in this year's municipal election.

Acajack · #**679** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 8:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Whipping up the electorate to vote for a more business friendly government in this year's municipal election.

I wouldn't think that stuff like public safety, law and order and especially not mental health and drug programs necessarily dovetail with what we'd normally consider a pro-business electoral agenda, which would normally involve stuff like lower taxes, taxpayer-funded aesthetic improvements to the public realm, etc.

I mean they might in some cases, but it's not an automatic.

rofina · #**680** Posted **Mar 4, 2022, 8:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Sorry for sweeping in, but why would downtown businesses who at least partly (in some cases largely) depend on suburbanites and tourists visiting downtown, exaggerate and lie about how dangerous and unpleasant downtown Vancouver is?

What would be in it for them to play up this (alleged) fallacy?

To be honest, I wrote that from a rhetorical stand point.

I have been beating the drums to get action on the rapid deterioration since 2018. I have sparred with countless posters here who called me an alarmist for the past 4 years.

The refrain has been the same; alarmist. Population DT continues to grow. Things aren't bad. Show us the stats. Crime is down, and has been for 3 decades, Etc.

This has to date been largely echoed by our Civic leaders too with our Mayor as recently as January laughing and scoffing at any questions about Vancouver's rapidly growing safety concerns.

Further, I have made allegations based on my personal direct community involvement that crime is dramatically underreported. This too was decried as alarmism and not reality.
We now have countless articles, often with the Chief of Vancouver Police directly saying faith in the VPD has been lost and crime is underreported dramatically.

4 years later everything is transpiring as I thought it would to a tee. Its turning chaotic with random attacks on a rapid incline; machete attacks, stabbings, random needle attacks, etc.

This is not to say I'm prescient and uniquely gifted to see this, just the opposite, the sight and smell of this crisis has been right in front of our eyes, for really the better part of 10 years. But instead it was easier to call folks like myself alarmist.

This was the same experience off line, in real life. The will to act, to make firm changes in direction was impossible. I mean impossible. The machinery at work to maintain status quo is built up over decades. An industry, and entire ideology of "harm reduction."

Its intensely demoralizing to see this in reality. This is the least fun "I told you so ever." Lose/lose.