Canadian City Proposals

[davidivivid]

This one's really more a massing at this stage than a render but I thought I'd post it nonetheless.

This news came out of nowhere a few months ago. The MNBAQ (Musée des Beaux-Arts du Québec) will build a new pavilion to house the most important Riopelle collection in the world. To make a long story short, two prominant philantropists initially agreed to give their private Riopelle collections worth a combined $100 million to the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts. In return, the MBAM was to build a new wing to expose the artist's works of arts. However, there was... drama brewing between some board members at the time and it was therefore announced that the museum would not follow through with its commitment. The governement, with the blessing of the two philantropists, decided to make such a projet see the light in Quebec City instead.

The new pavilion will cost $43 million and will be situated on what used to be the MNBAQ's central entrance. Since the contruction of the OMA designed Pierre Lassonde pavilion in 2016, this entrance has lost its purpose.

Près de 150 millions $ pour un espace consacré à Jean-Paul Riopelle

Le pavillon consacré à Jean-Paul Riopelle qui sera construit au Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec (MNBAQ) d’ici 2025 abritera la plus grande collection publique au monde d'œuvres réalisées par cette figure incontournable de l’art moderne québécois et canadien.

Le gouvernement Legault, le MNBAQ et la Fondation Jean Paul Riopelle ont dévoilé jeudi les détails entourant la création de l’Espace Riopelle.

Le projet, dont certains éléments avaient filtré dans la dernière mise à jour économique du ministre des Finances, Eric Girard, est évalué à 143 millions de dollars.

Il inclut la construction d’un nouvel édifice doté d’une signature architecturale unique et répondant aux plus hauts standards qui sera situé au cœur du complexe muséal du Musée national des beaux-arts du QuébecMNBAQ, sur les plaines d’Abraham. Les coûts de construction sont estimés à 42,5 millions.


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https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/184...ouvernement-legault-fondation-collection








https://magazineprestige.com/Espace-Riop...uteur-de-l-artiste-verra-le-jour-en-2025






https://iwan.com/portfolio/mnbaq-museum-quebec-oma-musee-national-des-beaux-arts-du-quebec/

[logan5]

Originally Posted by craner

Just defending Cowtown here:
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/calgary-has-more-office-space-leased-downtown-than-vancouver-4463482
This surprised me.

Hasn’t Calgary been ahead of Vancouver for quite awhile? I don’t think those numbers include the Broadway Corridor, which is substantial, and downtown Vancouver has something like 4 million sq feet of office space under construction. Vancouver will close the gap by quite a lot in the next few years, and with more office towers to be built along the Broadway subway, Vancouver will likely pass a stagnating Calgary in 10 or so years.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

The terracotta was replaced with limestone in 1929, 18 years after it was completed. Big deal.

The limestone reclad is a lot blander, more commonplace than the terra cotta. Does it matter when it happened? Do we accepted a terrible reclad in the 1960s of a pre war building because it is now 60 years old?

[ssiguy]

That London proposal is fantastic and I'm so glad that the design buildings will be so bold considering their location at the fork of the Thames. These are also big buildings and will have 800 units between the 2 of them. York already has a 30 storey building well under construction only a block away and has a reputation of a developer that actually builds what they propose and are of good quality design.

As for skylines, Miss and eventually Vaughn will NEVER reach Ottawa, London , or Hamilton. It may have more buildings but a skyline is not just the number of buildings but the depth and variety of those buildings that give the skyline character. Just a blob of glass doesn't make for a good skyline.

[Denscity]

All the proposals for Castlegar I can think of:

6 storey residential/new art gallery building downtown.

6 storey multi family residential building downtown.

4-5 storey mixed use building uptown.

110 unit 3 storey student housing building at Selkirk College.

New mass timber Passive House Chamber of Commerce/Visitor's Centre building uptown.

New low income housing multi unit building.

Current tallest: 3 storeys.

[WhipperSnapper]

Missisauga City Centre was a field 45 years ago. Vaughan City Centre was a Walmart Big Box store 15 years ago. Obviously, can't expect an architectural history here.

No offense but to call the London proposal fantastic and then VCC and MCC "glass blobs" cannot be without bias. The under construction 30 storey York tower is tasteless or is it a functional improvement on the streetscape. The quality of the finishes aren't going to improve things. Southwestern Ontario cities would be better to worry less about competing with the densities of the GTA as clearly the costs do not allow the servicing required for these large buildings to be hidden underground. Kitchener has done okay with the 20 storey, 200 or less unit range. Things just fall apart when its pushed to 30 storeys, 400 units.

[905er]

^^. correct.. Vaughan and Mississauga obviously have different histories.. but I can honestly see both cities having the next best skylines after Toronto in the next 10-15 years. Obviously the urban experience or feel will still pale in comparison, and cannot complete with the likes of Ottawa, Hamilton, London or even Kitchener, and the general vibe of those cities will continue to be superior...but we're talking strictly 'SKYLINE' by literals definition.. Mississauga and Vaughan will be no. 2 and 3 respectively ... they'll duke it out for that honour.

[Al Ski]

Originally Posted by GreatTallNorth2

Proposal for the Forks of the Thames River in downtown London by York Developments. Both towers over 40 floors each. This is as prime as London, Ontario real estate gets.

Garbage. Completely out of scale. London gets worse with every passing year.

[ssiguy]

It would have been out of proportion 30 years ago but not now.

The downtown has been putting up tall towers downtown for quite a while and very much recently. 2 towers {one 22 the other 25} finished up last year and currently there are 4 towers well under construction within 3 blocks of the site........30, 28, 40, 25. This is beside a whole plethora of other tall proposals. Downtown London currently has 25 towers in the downtown core over 20 stories completed and under construction.

[WhipperSnapper]

It fits right in with the neighbouring Tricar density fillers. This particular density filler is abutting the courthouse. Reduce or eliminate the podium for landscaping and push back the tallest tower further from Ridout would help softening the scale of the towers. Most of the podium faces the streets with a concrete wall anyways

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

The limestone reclad is a lot blander, more commonplace than the terra cotta. Does it matter when it happened? Do we accepted a terrible reclad in the 1960s of a pre war building because it is now 60 years old?

Terra cotta is probably a terrible material to clad a a tower in Toronto's climate. Are there any large Terra cotta buildings in Toronto or other northern climate cities?

[_Citizen_Dane_]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Terra cotta is probably a terrible material to clad a a tower in Toronto's climate. Are there any large Terra cotta buildings in Toronto or other northern climate cities?

Edmonton's McLeod Building is of similar vintage and is Terracotta-clad... well, mostly. The recessed central sections use buff brick, but the corner sections, cornices, keystones, pilasters, and pediment are exclusively Terracotta and it's held up pretty well:


Via Jeff Wallace on Flickr

[GreatTallNorth2]

Another more detailed image of the London proposal from Zedd Architecture

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by _Citizen_Dane_

Edmonton's McLeod Building is of similar vintage and is Terracotta-clad... well, mostly. The recessed central sections use buff brick, but the corner sections, cornices, keystones, pilasters, and pediment are exclusively Terracotta and it's held up pretty well:


Via Jeff Wallace on Flickr

Thanks for sharing this I wonder if tge Toronto tower has faults in the tiles they used. I was just reading up and terra cotta can fail if not just right leading to cracks and falling tiles. And seeing as it was reclad during the art deco Era it makes sense they went with a material that was heavily used then.

[Martin Mtl]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Terra cotta is probably a terrible material to clad a a tower in Toronto's climate. Are there any large Terra cotta buildings in Toronto or other northern climate cities?

There are a few in Montreal that are doing just fine. Like the gorgeous Linton Appartment building on Sherbrooke street. Build in 1907.

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Then there is the equality gorgeous George Royal Appartement building on Bishop street, also doing quite fine...


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[ShavedParmesanCheese]

Though not completely covered, Hamilton's Lister Block, circa 1924, features quite a bit of terracotta, and it's done just fine.


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Granted, it's shining from the restoration it received. But even before then all it needed was a wash.


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[trueviking]

Winnipeg has piles of old terracotta buildings......a few here.

[zahav]

The HBC redvelopment isn't the best architecturally, but I think this is more in scale than a massive 450' tower above it. And The Bay has been offloading stores left and right, so to get a totally redone store plus the new office space is a win. This was never going to stay just the same building forever. The era of massive 8-storey department stores is gone, we all know that. This building's use was limited if they didn't do this project. Too big for just The Bay, but too small to make much $$ from a couple office floors (as they currently have). This propsal will really reinvigorate the store, add biking infrastructure, better transit connections, improved retail experience, and add office space. While the architecture isn't breathtaking, it is the most suitable thing to do. It will really be a flagship Bay location after this reno. Will be cool that both Bay stores in the city (downtown and Oakridge) will be brand new stores

[905er]

outside of Quebec, I'd say Winnipeg has the most impressive collection of heritage buildings I have seen in Canada. It truly is impressive and so lovely to see so many gorgeous well preserved buildings in the heart of the city. takes away some of the sting of losing that fabulous city hall they once had. I was thoroughly impressed with the sheer number of beauties in downtown Winnipeg.

[JHikka]

1900 Eglinton East Phase One | 131.6m | 40s | SmartCentres | a—A



via PMT at UT
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/to...0s-smartcentres-a%E2%80%94a.32060/page-2

Not much to write home about, but it's notable because it's a SmartCentres development at Eglinton & Pharmacy, on the Eglinton LRT Line. Currently big box parking lot.