Winnipeg | 300 Main St.- Phase II 360 Main St. | 465 Ft | 42F | Completed - Page 334

BAKGUY · #**6661** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 2:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

It's weird that this building has about the same number of floors as 55 Nassau yet it's over 100 feet taller

There are several reasons.We are talking over 1/2 a century between these 2 builds..
In the past 50 tears...residential units are taller..no longer 7.5 or 8 feet. 9 feet ..
That alone could be 60 feet....
9 feet . is the new standard in upper end residential, condo or rentals...
Also, I think there is a little more concrete between the floors than 50 years back..

There is a very tall podium on the first very tall 2 floors...
Plus add 4 more floors...that is like 40 + feet....the top 2 are super tall for mechanical area.. 40 feet..would have been 18 feet on 55 Nassau...

esquire · #**6662** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 2:29 AM**

^ You can easily see the evolution in ceiling heights in hotels... 60s and 70s hotels tend to have very low ceilings relative to new hotels. Even budget hotels like Best Westerns have the 9 foot ceilings now in their new locations.

I don't get why super-low ceilings were so in vogue in the 60s and 70s. You go to a place from that era like the Delta or Radisson and you can practically reach up and touch the ceiling with ease.

Biff · #**6663** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 3:07 PM**

I think it was funny over the weekend that they need to bring in a crane to set up a crane to take down the tower crane and then bring in another crane to take down the crane that took down the tower crane.

bomberjet · #**6664** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 3:13 PM**

hahahaha my kid loves those type of flashlights!

NewIreland · #**6665** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 4:48 PM**

Photo Credit: Me

bomberjet · #**6666** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 4:59 PM**

So they got the little mobile crane to assemble one of those big mobile luffing jib cranes? Can't really see what's going on down in the street.

Can't they just deconstruct the tower crane the same way it went up? Section by section.

Craaaaaaaanes.

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Originally Posted by BigG

New page.

cllew · #**6667** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 6:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I think it was funny over the weekend that they need to bring in a crane to set up a crane to take down the tower crane and then bring in another crane to take down the crane that took down the tower crane.

The same thing was done for both tower cranes on the True North site. Its apparently common to have smaller cranes place the boom sections in place.

If I recall properly Sterling Crane brought a large truck mounted unit from one of its out of province offices and extended its reach to do the True North units.

Biff · #**6668** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 7:10 PM**

Yes, that is how it's done...I still find it amusing.

The tower crane lowers itself down to its lowest height possible - based on the length of the jib and possible conflict with surrounding buildings. Then the mobile crane removes the tower crane.

Marwest wanted the crane on the street closer to the tower crane but the city wouldn't allow a crane of that tonnage. That is why they had to resort to placing it on the gravel parking lot across the street.

prairiedog007 · #**6669** Posted **Dec 20, 2021, 10:36 PM**

Here is a better shot, typically space permitting they will take down a tower crane on a building up to 500ft as the largest mobile cranes only reach 550ft.

On space confined or taller buildings they will use a series of derrick cranes they will erect on the roof, and progressively use smaller and smaller ones to take down each derrick until the pieces are man hand able, and then these pieces come down in elevator or material hoist (if its still there)

big derrick crane removing PCL tower crane

smaller derrick crane ready to remove larger derrick crane

cllew · #**6670** Posted **Dec 22, 2021, 3:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

Yes, that is how it's done...I still find it amusing.

The tower crane lowers itself down to its lowest height possible - based on the length of the jib and possible conflict with surrounding buildings. Then the mobile crane removes the tower crane.

Marwest wanted the crane on the street closer to the tower crane but the city wouldn't allow a crane of that tonnage. That is why they had to resort to placing it on the gravel parking lot across the street.

Walked by there today in the skywalk at lunch and the tower crane is on really large wood crane mats/blocks on Fort St. Either the city changed their mind or the oilers made a mistake when setting up the crane

I'm guessing the fenced off parking lot is the laydown area for the sections when they come down off the tower, or the safety fall zone area

bomberjet · #**6671** Posted **Dec 22, 2021, 4:33 AM**

When is the crane coming down? Seems like a long time for nothing to happen.

The Jabroni · #**6672** Posted **Dec 22, 2021, 5:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

When is the crane coming down? Seems like a long time for nothing to happen.

Could be weather related, scheduling, or labour issues. Most likely the former.

WinCitySparky · #**6673** Posted **Dec 22, 2021, 1:40 PM**

Wouldn’t be 300 Main without a massive fuckup of some kind

bomberjet · #**6674** Posted **Dec 22, 2021, 2:50 PM**

See, here is what competent companies would do. They would be 100% sure they are ready BEFORE taking the closure. See TNS for competency.

They would make sure the cranes coming in are in proper working order. Make sure they have a plan on where the crane will be set-up. Have friggin people. lol

It was a bit windy recently. Otherwise seems like great weather.

Biff · #**6675** Posted **Dec 22, 2021, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by cllew

Walked by there today in the skywalk at lunch and the tower crane is on really large wood crane mats/blocks on Fort St. Either the city changed their mind or the oilers made a mistake when setting up the crane

I'm guessing the fenced off parking lot is the laydown area for the sections when they come down off the tower, or the safety fall zone area

The city and Marwest must have come to an agreement for it to be on the street. I know Marwest was wanting a larger crane than the city would allow. Maybe they went with the smaller crane.

bomberjet · #**6676** Posted **Dec 24, 2021, 3:02 PM**

Appears nothing has changed with the crane. Are they fined for unnecessarily blocking the streets? (rhetorical question. of course they wont be).

OTA in Winnipeg · #**6677** Posted **Dec 24, 2021, 11:54 PM**

^I was thinking about that last night on my way home from work. Why is it still there?

WinCitySparky · #**6678** Posted **Dec 24, 2021, 11:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTA in Winnipeg

^I was thinking about that last night on my way home from work. Why is it still there?

Because Marwest probably jumped the — calling for the removal plan without actually examining whether they were 100% ready.

1ajs · #**6679** Posted **Dec 25, 2021, 7:08 PM**

maybe they had a covid outbreak?

cllew · #**6680** Posted **Dec 25, 2021, 8:13 PM**

I don't think its covid as the crane crew are probably red seal operators out of the OE983 union hall so the union would just send another crew out while the others recover.

Same thing for the Iron Workers that do the actual unbolting and rigging