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hehehe · #**9641** Posted **Sep 28, 2021, 1:33 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Definitely not bookable on any platform.

I would assume at this stage it’s dropped.

Condor booking engine indicates “no direct flights available.”

Looks increasingly likely KLM, Edelweiss and Eurowings Discover will be the only long-haul Intl airlines flying out of YYC next summer.

Summer 2022 is still a long away though…

Fair! WS is probably the only airline who'll meaningfully increase international ops from YYC now.

hollywoodcory · #**9642** Posted **Sep 28, 2021, 2:11 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe

I see that now as well. More than likely YYC was dropped then?

The Condor flights are loaded in the GDS, but currently show no available inventory.

I also asked around, and it sounds like it hasn't been determined yet. S22 is still miles away, so nothing set in stone yet.

Calfan12 · #**9643** Posted **Sep 28, 2021, 8:10 PM**

For the month of November 2021 WestJet Calgary- London Gatwick UK, drops from 3 to 2 weekly flights✈️ & December it's up to 3 weekly,again.

While KLM between Calgary & Amsterdam, Netherlands flights drops from 7 to 4 weekly in November, 3 weekly 677/678 & 1x KL 679 -combined with Edmonton YEG. 7 again in December with 2 -via Edmonton).

hollywoodcory · #**9644** Posted **Sep 29, 2021, 1:40 AM**

YYC October Transborder/International Schedule:

Bolded the routes resuming. If my math is correct (and it often isn't) there are flights to 6 destinations in Europe, 15 in the US, and 4 in Mexico.

Air Canada:
FRA - 4x weekly
LHR - 3x weekly
SFO - 1x daily (from Oct 1)
PHX - 3x weekly

WestJet:
LGW - 2-3x weekly
AMS - 3x weekly
CDG - 1x weekly
CUN - Up to 6x weekly
PVR - Up to 1x daily
SJD - Up to 4x weekly
MZT - 1x weekly (from Oct 2)
LAX - 1x daily
ATL - 1x daily
LAS - 13x weekly
PHX - Up to 10x weekly
PSP - Up to 10x weekly
SFO - 2-4x weekly
MCO - 2x weekly (from Oct 8)
SAN - 2x weekly (from Oct 3)
BNA - 2-3x weekly
IAH - 3x weekly
PDX - 2x weekly

Delta Airlines:
MSP - 2x daily
SLC - 1x daily (from Oct 12)

American Airlines:
DFW - 2x daily

United Airlines:
DEN - Up to 2x daily

KLM:
AMS - 1x daily (includes YEG tag)

Coldrsx · #**9645** Posted **Sep 29, 2021, 1:51 AM**

YYC through DFW to and from MEX late Oct. Flights looked about 25-30% full at the moment outbound and a bit higher back when picking seats today but obviously not that representative.

Calfan12 · #**9646** Posted **Sep 30, 2021, 9:13 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

YYC October Transborder/International Schedule:

Bolded the routes resuming. If my math is correct (and it often isn't) there are flights to 6 destinations in Europe, 15 in the US, and 4 in Mexico.

Air Canada:
FRA - 4x weekly
LHR - 3x weekly
SFO - 1x daily (from Oct 1)
PHX - 3x weekly

WestJet:
LGW - 2-3x weekly
AMS - 3x weekly
CDG - 1x weekly
CUN - Up to 6x weekly
PVR - Up to 1x daily
SJD - Up to 4x weekly
MZT - 1x weekly (from Oct 2)
LAX - 1x daily
ATL - 1x daily
LAS - 13x weekly
PHX - Up to 10x weekly
PSP - Up to 10x weekly
SFO - 2-4x weekly
MCO - 2x weekly (from Oct 8)
SAN - 2x weekly (from Oct 3)
BNA - 2-3x weekly
IAH - 3x weekly
PDX - 2x weekly

Delta Airlines:
MSP - 2x daily
SLC - 1x daily (from Oct 12)

American Airlines:
DFW - 2x daily

United Airlines:
DEN - Up to 2x daily

KLM:
AMS - 1x daily (includes YEG tag)

Great 👍!

YYCFlier · #**9647** Posted **Sep 30, 2021, 1:58 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calfan12

For the month of November 2021 WestJet Calgary- London Gatwick UK, drops from 3 to 2 weekly flights✈️ & December it's up to 3 weekly,again.

While KLM between Calgary & Amsterdam, Netherlands flights drops from 7 to 4 weekly in November, 3 weekly 677/678 & 1x KL 679 -combined with Edmonton YEG. 7 again in December with 2 -via Edmonton).

Here we go. Is WS keeping AMS in Nov? If so then this is WS chasing out KLM….

hollywoodcory · #**9648** Posted **Sep 30, 2021, 2:28 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by YYCFlier

Here we go. Is WS keeping AMS in Nov? If so then this is WS chasing out KLM….

No, WS AMS flights end Oct 31.

hollywoodcory · #**9649** Posted **Oct 6, 2021, 9:04 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

The Condor flights are loaded in the GDS, but currently show no available inventory.

I also asked around, and it sounds like it hasn't been determined yet. S22 is still miles away, so nothing set in stone yet.

Condor has re-opened selected classes for booking once again for S22.

hehehe · #**9650** Posted **Oct 6, 2021, 9:46 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

Condor has re-opened selected classes for booking once again for S22.

I was wrong! Lots of capacity in S22 to FRA, wow.

Calfan12 · #**9651** Posted **Oct 7, 2021, 8:27 AM**

Traveling in Canada by plane ✈️ or train, proof of vaccination required starting Oct.30 2021. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/ai...ccine-travel-starting-oct-30/6022048001/

DoubleK · #**9652** Posted **Oct 7, 2021, 7:26 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calfan12

Traveling in Canada by plane ✈️ or train, proof of vaccination required starting Oct.30 2021. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/ai...ccine-travel-starting-oct-30/6022048001/

Did you literally post this in every airport thread on the forum?

Why?

hollywoodcory · #**9653** Posted **Oct 11, 2021, 3:55 PM**

Delta resumes SLC-YYC tonight bringing their total presence to 3x daily.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe

I was wrong! Lots of capacity in S22 to FRA, wow.

By July were currently looking at up to 15x weekly to FRA. AC/EW will probably be fine as they'll feed onward connections.

Not sure about Condor though.

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S22 TATAL so far:

AC FRA 1x daily
AC LHR 1x daily
WS LGW 1x daily
WS CDG 1x daily
KL AMS 1x daily
EW FRA Up to 5x weekly
WS FCO 3x weekly
WS DUB 3x weekly
DE FRA 3x weekly
WK ZRH 2x weekly

I'd imagine WS primary goal is keeping AMS. I'm not sold on them adding any more routes for next summer yet.

hehehe · #**9654** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 12:47 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

Delta resumes SLC-YYC tonight bringing their total presence to 3x daily.

By July were currently looking at up to 15x weekly to FRA. AC/EW will probably be fine as they'll feed onward connections.

Not sure about Condor though.

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S22 TATAL so far:

AC FRA 1x daily
AC LHR 1x daily
WS LGW 1x daily
WS CDG 1x daily
KL AMS 1x daily
EW FRA Up to 5x weekly
WS FCO 3x weekly
WS DUB 3x weekly
DE FRA 3x weekly
WK ZRH 2x weekly

I'd imagine WS primary goal is keeping AMS. I'm not sold on them adding any more routes for next summer yet.

It's way too early to be talking about this but do you see any TATL changes at WS for next winter?

hollywoodcory · #**9655** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 2:25 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe

It's way too early to be talking about this but do you see any TATL changes at WS for next winter?

Other than maybe CDG going year-round, not too sure. Maybe even increase LGW to daily year-round?

thenoflyzone · #**9656** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 8:27 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

I'd imagine WS primary goal is keeping AMS..

Will be interesting to see if WS gets slots for S22.

AMS is capped at 500,000 annual movements. For S22, the number has been set to 311,880. That number may increase, based on the number of movements registered during the upcoming W21 season.

Some key dates for AMS slots for S22.

Initial slot submission deadline for S22 was last week. Oct 7
Slot allocation deadline for S22 is Nov 4.
Slot return deadline for S22 is Jan 15.

WS won't know if it got slots until next year.

https://slotcoordination.nl/slot-allocation/

outoftheice · #**9657** Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 1:51 AM**

Sunwing launches its winter schedule out of YYC on Thursday with a YYC-CUN flight. By the beginning of November they will be operating flights from YYC to CUN, PVR, SJD, VRA and PUJ with plans to add further destinations in December.

Calfan12 · #**9658** Posted **Oct 16, 2021, 5:36 PM**

WestJet possibly might add direct flights✈️ between Calgary & Thunder Bay again at some point? Previously it was operated during the Summer.

In the CBC article mention,the airline is looking into it.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/thunder-bay-flight-levels-westjet-1.6170207

hehehe · #**9659** Posted **Oct 16, 2021, 8:01 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calfan12

WestJet possibly might add direct flights✈️ between Calgary & Thunder Bay again at some point? Previously it was operated during the Summer.

In the CBC article mention,the airline is looking into it.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/thunder-bay-flight-levels-westjet-1.6170207

I saw that article a while ago, but I'm not sure if WS means it or if they were trying to make the YQT people happy.

However I definitely see this route happening at some point again, considering WS tried it a few years back and with their strategy of starting interesting leisure flights from YYC (eg YYC-BOS/BNA/AUS/YYG/YQB)

MalcolmTucker · #**9660** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 2:31 PM**

What would the flight times look like, to max yield. Connect to the European departures arrivals bank/late morning USA departures bank?

So 8:45am arrival? Leave TB at 7:45, and fly to and overnight after the European arrivals.